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I would be sticking with football user for superstitious reasons 
Exactly, Martínez anchors the midfield when in possession, which helps free up Davids/Scholes, but in the event of a counter can drop for cover if either fullback is likely to be exposed and require Montero/Thuram going wide. It is only when having your backs against the wall and really defending with all five at the back that you would prefer Sol to Martínez, and even then Martínez provides more composure on the ball upon recovery.
I would be sticking with football user for superstitious reasons
You really shouldn't, if there's a team in this draft that could do with the arrows and less congestion from enormous shirts, that's yours.
But it makes those big tanks in defence look even more impenetrable.
Aye, I used to be a huge footballuser fan, really helped me those times I parked the bus against you in the 50s draft
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Back five was it? Platini couldn't see any grass in front of him at all, just a sea of Anto FC orange.Aye, I used to be a huge footballuser fan, really helped me those times I parked the bus against you in the 50s draft
What was Gio's team?
WTF
I beat him twice by a single vote.
This was in the "group stage" and secured my passage when Gio had been raping everyone. The one above was the semi.
"Il bello di notte" did it, TWICE!
Nelinho got raped that day. Gio went to bed way ahead, then I started turning the screw and by the time he came back he was chasing it, despite having had the solution all along (Gentile out right).
That was a fecking ridiculous draft, I stocked up on midfielders, defenders but couldn't get hold of a striker to save my life. Ended up playing Elkjaer in the final but my counterattacking luck ran out.
It didn't help Gio that he had two scousers playing for him
Tactically that was a bit of a masterstroke. Park the bus, narrow midfield and a sweeper to crowd out Platini, keep the forwards wide to stop the full-backs from strolling forward.I beat him twice by a single vote.
This was in the "group stage" and secured my passage when Gio had been raping everyone. The one above was the semi.
"Il bello di notte" did it, TWICE!
It didn't help Gio that he had two scousers playing for him
Always a loser. I remember someone had Dalglish once and lost badly.
Absolutely. I actually miss how sensitive people used to be about whether the actual tactics worked. Today you would just get De León/Pereyra/Chivadze regarded as a liability and I would effectively be playing with no striker and no defence
Nothing worse than the panic of waking up to find a draft lead turned on its head. I remember one time about 6 ahead of Fergus and seemingly cruising, woke up to find myself 1 behind. No time for sleeping at this craic.
Boniek must have had a screamer that day
When did I say he was better on the right than he was at false 9?
This is the post that started it (as it turns out Souness wasn't playing but who gives a shit?):
Nothing like people seeing the mighty Liverpool of the 80s get twatted
Sneaky Anto. Picking on Gio's fellow countrymen and the 2 Liverpool lads on a United forum
You may as well just start 5-0 down when you've got the likes of Souness, Hansen, Dalglish, Terry and Lampard in your team.
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That draft!
Following it was such a pleasure to read. The discussions were all excellent and your stories about Bochini and Morena in particular were delightful.
We should have a draft that bans all players picked in the all time drafts we have played so far (decade, nationality, etc) so that we can see more of that!
That draft!
Following it was such a pleasure to read. The discussions were all excellent and your stories about Bochini and Morena in particular were delightful.
We should have a draft that bans all players picked in the all time drafts we have played so far (decade, nationality, etc) so that we can see more of that!
I was planning something along those lines but not as extreme as outright bans. The issue aren't only those, you can't allow more recent players either and participation suffers, but that's the only way you can pick someone like Lerby (monster of a player that he was). I loved having him in the 50s one but don't think he has ever been picked since. Much easier to go with a household name.
The upside with less participation is you can also try different approaches. I was probably unfair saying the tactical aspects were considered more, it was just that so few were interested that those that were would be the sort that would really get stuck into it.
I still love my final setup, probably one of the setups I most like from all drafts I've been involved in. It quite simply worked IMO and at the very least I would have liked seeing it play out!
It was a great draft, focused and insightful.
Yeah I went to sleep at the wrong time in the WC one, came back after it finished only to see I had lost because my initial formation went all the way to the end of the game with many crying out for a change which would have made them vote for me. Real bummer.
I was planning something along those lines but not as extreme as outright bans. The issue aren't only those, you can't allow more recent players either and participation suffers, but that's the only way you can pick someone like Lerby (monster of a player that he was). I loved having him in the 50s one but don't think he has ever been picked since. Much easier to go with a household name.
The upside with less participation is you can also try different approaches. I was probably unfair saying the tactical aspects were considered more, it was just that so few were interested that those that were would be the sort that would really get stuck into it.
I still love my final setup, probably one of the setups I most like from all drafts I've been involved in. It quite simply worked IMO and at the very least I would have liked seeing it play out!
Oh yeah we can say no players born post 1980 can be picked and then ban all the ones that have already participated. I don't think it would suffer in terms of participation, as the whole point of it is bring forward good/excellent players who often get overlooked because of vote winners etc. I guess decades one had a few because of the constraints but nationality one was as close as we can get to a list we are tired of seeing picked, I think so a ban would work with that one.
I think that ship has sailed to be honest, not sure there would be much receptiveness to what is effectively an oldies draft with no one you know. Last time I tried to bring forth someone worthy (Juan Joya) he just got completely overlooked. I think the excitement of finding more about someone completely random and giving them a fair crack is gone tbh.
Not sure about others but I'll be well up for it.
The Joya thing was quite different as it was an all time draft with all the big guns involved and hence relatively such players would have not won votes, whereas in this one someone like him or Erico would be as good as it can get.
Not going to work
Going down this 1:1 route is going to cost you Messi and you can thank Anto for that
Except that in his day he was as good as someone like Gento, who regularly gets picked. Neither a vote winner, but worthy of appreciation and of being regarded as holding their own.
Not going to work
Going down this 1:1 route is going to cost you Messi and you can thank Anto for that
Me? Why? I think it's pretty obvious both teams are better and everyone would rather see them in the right team. There's of course a rationale for both of you riding your luck and hoping the other goes out next. That's not a bad way to go about it, I would just hate it if you faced each other next or in the final having not sorted it out, both setups (with the right man) are due an encounter
In the meantime, MJJ and crappy strengthen on the sidelines while you guys bicker over strikers.
That's true but you went out against a side packed with vote winners. Cutch had the likes of Maldini, Nesta, Messi, Iniesta. Those players would be personal favourites of a lot of voters, the reason they are called vote winners in the first place, hence it was unlikely that you would have Joya getting equal credit in terms of votes. That's a fact we have to accept as long as we are doing public voting, certain names would make people instantly vote for them.
Sure. I think he was overlooked in the previous game as well, mind. In any case, the point isn't he should win votes, the point is people should realise he is a viable counterattacking outlet who could own the flank along with Facchetti and cross to Eusebio. That's all that was needed. His fullback was Wim fecking Suurbier ffs!
I don't think he was called a liability or anything, I think most people had an issue with your defensive setup. And as I said earlier, even if someone did overlook him, it was mainly because of other glittering names on the pitch and it becoming all relative rather than Joya himself, which is why this proposed draft can actually show us how people would rate these players without having to compare with big guns in their positions.
Or people would just say they have feck all idea and not vote...
That suggested draft would be brilliant, I've thought about it myself as well. Banning the top 100 picks in any draft would make it way more exciting. Removes all the no-brainer vote winners that you are forced to have otherwise.
Yeah I can see that being similar to the 50s one where you had around 20 votes per game. But at least the selection process would be really exciting seeing a lot of new names and hearing about them. I'm pretty sure I want to do this draft now so once all these in queue are done with, few months down the line I would definitely run this one.Or people would just say they have feck all idea and not vote...
Because Annah listened to you and reneged on his offer to say he only wants 1:1 exchange which is never going to happen becauseMe? Why? I think it's pretty obvious both teams are better and everyone would rather see them in the right team. There's of course a rationale for both of you riding your luck and hoping the other goes out next. That's not a bad way to go about it, I would just hate it if you faced each other next or in the final having not sorted it out, both setups (with the right man) are due an encounter
In the meantime, MJJ and crappy strengthen on the sidelines while you guys bicker over strikers.
1. Messi is simply a better player than Ronaldo
2, Messi is the final key to complete a very strong theme for him