Players start training again in two weeks. Ideally want signings done for then.
Too early to be getting worried?
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Players start training again in two weeks. Ideally want signings done for then.
I was going to ask "when is the time to start getting worried"? When pre-season starts? When its over? When season starts?
Deadline day? lol
Deadline day? lol
Mark C above has a point. Someone wants to get his finger out.
The thing is, there is no particular reason to worry. Because we aren't in the know, a signing could be announced in the next 48 hours for all we know.
I am surprised those out going haven't been confirmed as of yet. Although we are maybe keeping them up our sleeves for a part ex!
It makes more sense to let them go after we've made our signings.
Before we go on tour, you would hope we have at least made bids. Ideally we'd have everyone on tour (except Copa/u21 tournament players). Never works like that though unfortunately.
Considering that we're the only team in Europe who made a significant transfer so far, I would say probably not.
I think we'll have a rough deadline on our targets this summer. The closer we get to pre season the more likely we are to pursuing targets B and C. If target A crops up beyond that then great.
I'm sorry but your clearly forgetting Liverpool. Ings, Milner and Bogdan.
Finger out Woodward!
Yup plus the fact that tour starts 17th of July makes almost a full month for further squad preparations and even then there's another two months of official window.
Pretty comfy situation for business especially with us already being linked to some serious names and in some cases the reports were referring it as a matter of being confirmed by the club in the right time.
Realistically, assuming we want a few players, we're not going to get all of them done before we travel to the USA. Aside from the fact signing any one from the Copa would mean they are going to get a longer break, clubs and agents are going to take their time when it comes to at least some of the deals. There are bound to be one or two players who'll arrive later.
Still too early to worry, i will start worrying when we leave for the tour and we still havent signed a player or two besides Memphis.
Worried? Seriously?
They're building a stage at the Bernabéu so I think you're on to something.
I'm not worried at all, but I am getting bored of the constant rumours. That's it.
We've been linked to pretty much everyone.
We've been linked to pretty much everyone.
i'd say part of the issue is that our over payment over the years...teams just see us as a massive cash cow
Nani, Anderson, Berbatov, Mata, Herrera, Fellaini, Di Maria, Shaw are all deals where we paid over the odds off the top of my head
think the last time we actually did well out of a deal (bought a player who became more valuable than our initial fee) was when we signed Hernandez
we could probably buy our targets right now but if you continue to let yourself get fecked over by other teams it will go on year after year
when Manchester United are involved teams seem to add 10 million to the price
Nani, Anderson, Berbatov, Mata, Herrera, Fellaini, Di Maria, Shaw are all deals where we paid over the odds off the top of my head
think the last time we actually did well out of a deal (bought a player who became more valuable than our initial fee) was when we signed Hernandez
we could probably buy our targets right now but if you continue to let yourself get fecked over by other teams it will go on year after year
when Manchester United are involved teams seem to add 10 million to the price
I'm not worried but I trully expected us to sign 1-2 players along with Depay by now.
We are exactly 1 month away from our first pre-season game, which means that the players will probably return to Manchester in 2 weeks. Given the information that van Gaal wants every new signing to have a full preparation with the team time is running short.
We are exactly 1 month away from our first pre-season game, which means that the players will probably return to Manchester in 2 weeks. Given the information that van Gaal wants every new signing to have a full preparation with the team time is running short.
It's not new and all the rich clubs pay over the odds.
There is no reason to overthink the current inactivity, the players are in holiday and the ones that aren't, are playing the Copa America.
I really am not. That might come across dismissive but I don't consider any of their transfers significant.
I disagree
when you consider Arsenal buying Sanchez for 35 when we pay 60 for Di Maria
when Chelsea pay 21 million for Matic when we spend around 30 million a piece for Herrera/Fellaini
even Madrid who are famous for splurging managed to sign Kroos for 25 if I remember correctly
Now consider that Madrid paid 30m for a leftback substitute, 42m for Illarramendi, 90m for Bale, 70m James Rodriguez. Barcelona paid 30m for Mathieu, 30m for chygrynskiy, 61m+Eto'o for Ibrahimovic.
Long way to go. Window is more or less open, I'd expect a bit to happen within the next 30 or so days with European players since they are on holidays now. South American players are a bit harder with Copa America, and we linked with a few of them. But they wouldn't be at pre season in the USA either way so no real difference
Yeah, I agree.
We've overpaid (and seem to be doing so increasingly) on pretty much all our recent transfers.
60m for di Maria, a player who had to leave Madrid, and had nowhere else to go, was insane.
Meanwhile Arsenal get Sanchez for 35m, and Chelsea get Costa for 30m and Fabregas for the same.
Our recent transfers have been really poor.
200m and we're a long way off challenging...
not really sure where you are plucking those figures from for some of those players - you've doubled the Mathieu fee, added a good chunk on for Illarramendi....
Madrid are the extreme case obviously - they are expected to bring in the big money transfers like Ronaldo, Bale or Rodriguez - that's what buys votes in presidential elections - they still managed some good value signings in Ozil for 13, Benzema for 25, Kroos for 25, Danilo for early 20s, Isco for 23, Carvajaal for 6 I think, De Gea for god knows how little - they made big bucks on guys like Callejon and Ozil
I wouldn't even compare our transfer strategy to Madrid though - I'd simply look at what we have paid for players and pound for pound we've paid well over the odds....
It's crazy to think that transfer fees aren't a major factor and as soon as United sniff around a player owners must rub their hands with glee
Chelsea for the most part have managed to bring in some very good players with relatively little fuss or media attention and I think their net spend the last few years with inflated sales has been pretty low
think we need to pay reasonable amounts for players and to the OP this could be holding up a deal or two
@buckooo1978 I didn't said that it wasn't a problem, I said that it wasn't a new one and that it's wasn't the reason of the current calmness.
PS: The prices are in Euros.
PS: The prices are in Euros.
I don't mind the lack of activity, especially given that a) we could be quite a bit along in a deal like the Otamendi one for example and b) I'd imagine the DDG situation is taking up a bit of our attention too.
I do find the constant tenuous links to dozens of different players irritating though. Transfer windows are always so tedious....
I do find the constant tenuous links to dozens of different players irritating though. Transfer windows are always so tedious....
In the case of Chelsea, they have Mourinho.
There are many players who want to play under him as they know they will get medals/trophies, which in turn will increase their own stock.
Kroos was quoted last season as stating that if he did move to England, it would only have been for Chelsea.
We had our chance to hire Mourinho and we blew it, so until we become winners again, we will need to pay over the odds.
The one advantage we have is with the Dutch contingent - Dutch players would prefer to play for Man Utd than probably any other team, right now, due to the LVG connection.
Also due to LVG's links with top Dutch clubs, he can get good/amicable deals.
Ideally yes but in reality it might take longer.
Some deals might take longer, that's just out of our control with the Copa as example. I'm pretty sure van Gaal demanded the club that his targets are here before the tour though, van Gaal knows how difficult it is for players to adapt to his style and therefore really wants his deals done so he has a good preparation. He's a perfectionist and will have planned things into detail on the transfers, I don't think we'll have much trouble landing most targets if we wave the chequebook. It's all up to Woody now 
All frees though weren't they? would you want any of them as our top targets?
It was sarcasm lol.
Nice to see theres stillpeople speaking sense on here
I'd be more worried if Arsenal, City and Chelsea were all signing excellent players. But the transfer market in general seems to be very slow.
Selective indeed.
I'm not worried but not as optimistic as a lot of people. Every season we always have a ready made excuse [some of which are genuine] such as world cup, holiday, copa america, new manager, global warming, Kim Jung Un 
etc. If we really wanted Depay, why did we wait until PSG almost signed him? Answer is simple, we were busy chasing an unrealistic target [Bale]. If truly we want Scheiderlin and he wants to come as has been reported, then what is stopping us? We are prioritizing Schweinsteiger, another moderately unrealistic target. I hope we get our acts together because our failure or success in this transfer window will largely determine how well we do next season..Our problem is that there are players who are good enough for us, but we do ignore these players, spend too much time trying to sign big names from Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, fail, then come back, overpay for the players we could have got earlier at a better rate.
etc. If we really wanted Depay, why did we wait until PSG almost signed him? Answer is simple, we were busy chasing an unrealistic target [Bale]. If truly we want Scheiderlin and he wants to come as has been reported, then what is stopping us? We are prioritizing Schweinsteiger, another moderately unrealistic target. I hope we get our acts together because our failure or success in this transfer window will largely determine how well we do next season..Our problem is that there are players who are good enough for us, but we do ignore these players, spend too much time trying to sign big names from Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, fail, then come back, overpay for the players we could have got earlier at a better rate.These are strange and unusual times. In Fergie's day I never got bothered about a lack of activity in the transfer window. I knew he'd pull something out of the hat, even if that meant getting more out of the existing squad. I also knew he wouldn't panic and spend a load of money badly just so we could sign someone, anyone, before the window closed. Sadly, I have no such faith in the Woody/Van Gaal combo. I don't think we had a good window last summer and a worrying theme of our transfer business under Woodward has trying to make some sort of statement by paying stupendous sums of money for players other big clubs were actively looking to get rid of. Often with good reason. The closer this goes to the wire the higher the chance of something like that happening again. Which would be a disaster tbh.
Some people really need a reality test. Manchester United is not the centre of the Universe. Its a top club whose situated in a city which is hardly the best city to live in. Also last year we were out of the CL. Under such circumstances our attraction power was somehow limited. Sanchez wanted to play in the CL, which is something we couldn't provide. Di Maria signed for us because the fee was excessive else he would have gone to PSG. Matic had links with Chelsea who could provide him not only with CL football but also in living in one of the most exciting cities in the world.
Of course we can always go through the value route which saw us losing up on players like Hazard in favor of Young, Zaha and Bebe
Of course we can always go through the value route which saw us losing up on players like Hazard in favor of Young, Zaha and Bebe
Have you ever been to Turin?
We have to because irrespective on our status, we're not the top dogs. Manchester United is not Real Madrid and Manchester is not Madrid. Also we cant do a Juventus or a Bayern (ie buy the best local talent around) because British talent is rare and expensive.
The only way for United to get the quality players they need is to act swiftly. Once the likes of Real, Chelsea etc notice the talent the deal is good as dead
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