ivaldo
Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?
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I didnt think Downing was availableWe've apparently dropped our interest and are pursuing a higher calibre of player.
I didnt think Downing was availableWe've apparently dropped our interest and are pursuing a higher calibre of player.
Yes, and no other players of his category are expected to essentially play on their own in central midfield and perform every role simultaneously. Pirlo and Alonso are always guarded by two energetic, skilled midfielders ahead of them, giving them passing options and support.
It is frankly a disgrace how Carrick has been managed. We have been hoping for an adequate midfield partner or two for him for such a long time, that it now appears that Carrick himself is imminently in need of replacing.
Kroos would fill and perhaps surpass Carrick's role in terms of being a distributor from midfield, but I do not believe him to have the natural defensive capabilities of Carrick.
Still a strange situation if Kroos joins now. Why take the step down from Bayern? It seems money is our main allure for players now, rather than our prestige and competitiveness. At least we are no longer burdened by Moyes.
Emre Can?We've apparently dropped our interest and are pursuing a higher calibre of player.
I don't agree that United are a 'step down' from Bayern. We can't offer CL football next season, but, by most criteria, Manchester United are a bigger club than Bayern Munich.
Global fan base, marketing and sponsors and all that with the premier league being a more popular league. Nobody is flaming we're better, but you could argue we are bigger worldwide.Such as?
Such as?
I didnt think Downing was available![]()
Pretty sure our commercial revenue and our overall revenue was bigger last season, according to the deloitte money league.Fame, name recognition, shirt sales, commercial attraction, worldwide media coverage, worldwide fan base, revenues, profits, gate receipts ....
Plus that Steve Bruce and Robbo duvet cover I used to have. If that doesn't tell you about the scale of the club, nothing does.
How reliable is Miguel? Daily star reliable or James Ducker reliable?They are just rehashing this ESPN story by Miguel Delaney.
http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/...nfident-toni-kroos-deal-bayern-munich?cc=5901
Plus that Steve Bruce and Robbo duvet cover I used to have. If that doesn't tell you about the scale of the club, nothing does.
How reliable is Miguel? Daily star reliable or James Ducker reliable?![]()
Pretty sure our commercial revenue and our overall revenue was bigger last season, according to the deloitte money league.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#2012.E2.80.9313
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I don't care what club is the bigger club though. Not getting involved in that discussion.
Definitely not Ducker/Ogden/Taylor level. Maybe slightly better than someone like Jamie Jackson in terms of reliability?
Global fan base, marketing and sponsors and all that with the premier league being a more popular league. Nobody is flaming we're better, but you could argue we are bigger worldwide.
I would say considerably worse. Jamie Jackson is the Manchester football correspondent for a credible national newspaper that used to be based in Manchester.
Miguel Delaney is Irish, with no obvious connections to the club at all.
Pretty sure our commercial revenue and our overall revenue was bigger last season, according to the deloitte money league.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#2012.E2.80.9313
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I don't care what club is the bigger club though. Not getting involved in that discussion.
So making money by selling shirts in Asia counts towards being a big club, but making money by winning the biggest trophy in club football doesn't? InterestingYou won the champions league. Big bucks.
Pretty sure our commercial revenue and our overall revenue was bigger last season, according to the deloitte money league.
So making money by selling shirts in Asia counts towards being a big club, but making money by winning the biggest trophy in club football doesn't? Interesting.
That's not hard I think. Jamie Jackson is proving himself to be the typical clueless journo in the past few days. Bring back Ogden!Definitely not Ducker/Ogden/Taylor level. Maybe slightly better than someone like Jamie Jackson in terms of reliability?
I would say considerably worse. Jamie Jackson is the Manchester football correspondent for a credible national newspaper that used to be based in Manchester.
Miguel Delaney is Irish, with no obvious connections to the club at all.
We're going to announce a triple signing soon. Fabregas, Kroos and Shaw.
You can prove all those things with youtube clips thoughThe best thing about this thread is to see how the opinion of him changes between "slow/immobile, useless, no defense, will be overrun, side-way passer, adds almost nothing" (worse than Fellaini) and "one-man-army, that scores/assists/defends and controls the game on a world class level" (Scholes 2.0) every 10 pages.
Jackson seems to post an awful lot of transfer stories though, which makes his hit rate fairly low. He's linked us with all of Shaw, Hummels, Kroos, Robben, Fabregas, Muller, Reus, Benzema, Managala, and Dante in recent times.
Delaney is based in London but I'm pretty sure he does have a few contacts at United, a few of the other journalists have mentioned it before.
It's all going to end in tears.
I'm not saying we're historically a bigger club, just globally we're arguably bigger with our fan base and marketing, which is what the guy was asking.Yes, the measure of a club's greatness is popularity in Thailand/Hong Kong/Malaysia and Singapore.
That's what European football is all about.
Pretty sure our commercial revenue and our overall revenue was bigger last season, according to the deloitte money league.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League#2012.E2.80.9313
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I don't care what club is the bigger club though. Not getting involved in that discussion.
Sometime in June before the world cup I'd say.So when should I take a day off to celebrate Kroos joining us then?
I'm not saying we're historically a bigger club, just globally we're arguably bigger with our fan base and marketing, which is what the guy was asking.
Yes, the measure of a club's greatness is popularity in Thailand/Hong Kong/Malaysia and Singapore.
That's what European football is all about.
Commercially, yes. And football clubs are for-profit corporations after all.
You've got to love how Asian fans are used as a stick to beat the big clubs with yet every big club is marketing for and capitalising on their support.