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Kevin said:
Signing Kroos to replace Di Maria is ridiculous. They would go backwards.
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I hope we don't sign him. No penetration in that guy. Just pass and pass al day long. He can't carry the ball forward like Di Maria or brake through the first line of defence with a quick dribble like Modric does so often.
 
I agree he is great keeping possession but not productive enough going forward.. Only thing close to Scholes is spreading the ball. Him or Vidal well its an easy pick really..
 
If Real are really such mongdongs that they want to replace Di Maria with Kroos then we should be all over the argie...
 
I hate Madrid. They buy just for the sake of it. They are well stocked in midfield yet they want Kroos...

They trully disgust me.
 
Kevin said:
If Real are really such mongdongs that they want to replace Di Maria with Kroos then we should be all over the argie...
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Yup. In our current situation I'd prefer Di Maria to Kroos anyway.
 
I'm not sure I really see why this guy is being compared to Scholes, honestly what am I missing? I think he's a good player but in his playing style he doesn't really seem to offer anything close to what Scholes did.
 
I can see why LVG didn't think he'll fit his tactics, but I am still really disappointed we missed him. Probably one of a handful of players that I like outside United.
 
Good. Go to Madrid man. Sick of people on here thinking he was the answer when he clearly isn't. I keep saying we need more energy and fight in the middle of the park.. Not a continuation of this so called 'zombie' football we've been playing under Fergie's last seasons. Carrick is a good passer i assure you guys.
 
Mainoldo said:
Good. Go to Madrid man. Sick of people on here thinking he was the answer when he clearly isn't. I keep saying we need more energy and fight in the middle of the park.. Not a continuation of this so called 'zombie' football we've been playing under Fergie's last seasons. Carrick is a good passer i assure you guys.
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Zombie? He's one of the best Sat Nav footballers that ever walked onto a pitch. There isnt a midfielder in Europe he cannot outshine. He's more than capable of filling the Scholes void.....and its also very hard to actually kill a zombie!
 
Wow. we really should have got Kroos. 25m Euro being reported. This is a no brainer really. Another very bad decision made by us. Let's spend 30+ million on unproven kids and not on world class proven talent. Ye, that makes sense. Stunned
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Well we can get him in a couple of seasons when Madrid find the next best thing and push him out...its inevitable
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We (Bayern) will buy him back for peanuts in a few years. So in the grander scheme of things it is a great deal! :lol:
 
I dont get this. Pep loves him. Matthias(Sammer) also. SportBild and others saying that the board doesnt see him in the 10+ million paylevel like Lahm,Ribery etc.
Why? is my question. He is 24. Has all the club titles. A great career since he is 17. (was the voted best in the U 17 WC)
He is German also and has his ties with the club and city. I dont like it.
That could be a big mistake. He has as good a shot to be the next best midfielder then any. And he has a better one then most.
Have a bad feeling with that...
 
I'd rather have a fast-paced approach to our CM to be honest. Kroos is no better than Carrick was in his plomb in my opinion & Carrick wont have the same season like the last one gone by. Back to his best this term is my guess.

Feck Real gettin players on the cheap too. There's something not right about that transfer - regardless of one year being left on his contract.

I'd take Vidal every day of the week over Kroos!
 
Class player, no doubt about that. I had been really keen to sign him, but eyebrows were raised when he struggled against Algeria. Could be another Carrick - ie lovely passer of the ball, but struggles against teams who close you down - whereas that never bothered Scholes, and I doubt it would bother Vidal either
 
NoLogo said:
Well that's the usual reaction on here when a player chooses another club over us "Meh, never liked him, he is shit anyways."
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True that. That's most stupid people's reaction anywhere to be honest.
 
Trust Van Gaal: Why Man United were right to sign Ander Herrera instead of Bayern’s Toni Kroos

In stark contrast to last summer, and perhaps in a bid to erase memories of the series of blunders that blighted that transfer window, Manchester United have gone about their business with remarkable alacrity this year, spending around £60m on Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera before June became July.

The Red Devils have been just as decisive in turning down the chance to sign players, with Cesc Fabregas and Toni Kroos both ignored despite figuring on United’s radar in the past.

The decision to pass on the Barcelona and Bayern Munich men, especially when a similar amount was then spent on the relatively small-fry Herrera, has not gone without comment, with the increasingly chatty Paul Scholes weighing in to say that he wished Man United had signed Kroos.

On the face of it, it’s pretty hard to argue with Scholes. Kroos is a serial winner, an important cog in the impressive Bayern Munich and Germany machines, and only 24, the same age as Herrera. It is also fair to say that if anyone has right to suggest the perfect man for Manchester United’s midfield, it is the formerly reticent stalwart.

However, allowing Sir Alex Ferguson to pick out his successor at Old Trafford proved a disaster, and there is a fair case to suggest that Kroos would also be a poor fit for the Red Devils, especially under new manager Louis van Gaal.

Kroos is an undeniably excellent player who should be near the top of almost any club’s shopping list this summer if he is available, but the German would not solve the biggest issue in the United team of last season.

That was a lack of pace and drive from deep, the absence of a midfield runner capable of accelerating the ponderous play that made United so easy to nullify. Other than Marouane Fellaini, who has a set of issues of his own, the whole array of midfielders at the club were alarmingly one-note – tidy players but ones unable to dominate the middle of park.

Kroos can control games with his exceptional passing – no player has completed more passes at the World Cup than the German – but he is slow and grounded in a style of play that fits neither with United’s traditionally boisterous directness or Van Gaal’s midfield preferences.

The Dutch manager will likely pair a defensive midfielder with, and these are becoming increasingly rare in football, a midfielder (now described as a box-to-box midfielder to avoid confusion). The latter will surely be Herrera, who combines a keen eye for a pass – he created 53 chances in La Liga last season – with bullish tackling – he averaged 2.64 per 90 minutes.

Who will act as the destroyer is unclear, but it certainly won’t be Kroos. The German’s best position is ahead of two deeper central midfielders, but United spent £37m in January on a player who could also fill that spot in Juan Mata. The Red Devils’ record signing is already competing for the role with Wayne Rooney, who is reportedly on £300,000 a week. Even if Kroos is better fit than either of United’s current options, they are unlikely to lavish more cash in that area.

Van Gaal could have opted to pair Kroos with Herrera in midfield, and the Spaniard’s defensive robustness might have dovetailed nicely with the Bayern man’s ability to pick a pass. However, this would be a bizarre use of Herrera, who would have to play a more withdrawn role than he has done at Bilbao, muting his attacking impact.

Looking at the stats from last season, Herrera actually averages more goals, assists and chances created per 90 than Kroos. That’s not to say he’s a better player, but the 24-year-old is a fine all-round midfielder and that is presumably why Manchester United spent £30m on him. To use him in any other way would be odd.

Turning down the chance to bring in Kroos is a gamble for United, but the signing of Herrera instead illustrates that Van Gaal has an understanding of the main problem with their sluggish midfield last season.

Signing Kroos would have necessitated a change in the Red Devils’ style. The German is a brilliant player in a possession-hogging side that spends much of its time camped out around the opposition box, but United have always been at their best when playing more directly.

Kroos will almost certainly go on and be excellent at Bayern or some other European giant next season, but United and Van Gaal should not be berated for passing on the German as he simply wasn’t the man for the job required at Old Trafford
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Source: http://www.squawka.com/news/trust-v...-herrera-instead-of-bayerns-toni-kroos/134210
 
MancFanFromManc said:
Class player, no doubt about that. I had been really keen to sign him, but eyebrows were raised when he struggled against Algeria. Could be another Carrick - ie lovely passer of the ball, but struggles against teams who close you down - whereas that never bothered Scholes, and I doubt it would bother Vidal either
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The whole team struggled. They were human, they showed nerves. And he was fine overall in that game. NO human being has only good games and every player can be shut down.
He has a great world cup so far. I just hope that the board gives him his money. I would go so far that he is the best on the 8 spot of his generation(so far).
 
As the squawka article states not what we need now. We don't need a Scholes replacement (yet - MC did it year before last quite well), we need a Robson/Keano/Yaya type.
 
The "Süddeutsche" has an article about it, too. From there information the deal between the clubs is already made and it is just some little technical things between Kroos' agent and Real Madrid that are still open - but nothing that would stop the transfer. I guess short after the World Cup it will be announced.
 
Toni Kross chooses Real Madrid over us?
" Meh, he's overrated anyway. Do not want him in the first place. Happy that we don't sign him"

Crying alone in the bathroom.jpg
 
So Kroos and Di Maria will be competing for a spot on top of Xabi/Khedira - Modric midfield?

Kroos will rip La Liga apart in a more attacking role, and he could also play deeper next to Modric or Xabi or Khedira if needed. If this goes through it just gives Real so many sick options, it's not even fun anymore.

Rakitic is a really nice player to watch and he is pure quality, but Barca are loco if they think buying Rakitic over Kroos was a good idea.
 
Mali_Zeus said:
I hate Madrid. They buy just for the sake of it. They are well stocked in midfield yet they want Kroos...

They trully disgust me.
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:lol:

They actually act like a big fecking club in the transfer market and I like that about them. No messing around, if they want someone, they get him.
 
PedroMendez said:
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I am still in denial.

he should stay in Munich. Else he has to join a club that I like. Please Woody, sign him up.
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Same. He doesn't even play for my club but I'm going to be really hugely disappointed when he joins Madrid.
 
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