Time for the lock?
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It seems to be the trend at the moment.
Worth its own thread. Very informative on the ins and outs of United's transfer operation actually.
The difference between how we did business with Fergie and Gill compared to Woodward is worrying. I'm beginning to resent that bald man.
Unless hes signing for someone else i still see us ending up with him. He wants better wages. He can play out his contract for a CL team (which we are not). Next year he will get a huge signing on fee, and hopefully we will be in the CL.
Interesting article, and the conclusion that Kroos turned United down this summer is actually not surprising at all.
Yep, this was Thiago no 2. Lets lock the thread and go on to Fabregas no 2 apparently he is VG's number one target now.
TO THE FABREGAS THREAD!
I suggest ponying up with a few friends and get a banner and flying around OT.
I liked the former more as well, but I won't complain if Woodward's methods work out and he has something to show for at the end of the summer.
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Van Gaal is one of the most tactically intelligent managers ever. His plans for United apparently don't involve Kroos. Have faith in him.
7:23 p.m. Fri, May 23
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Van Gaal is one of the most tactically intelligent managers ever. His plans for United apparently don't involve Kroos. Have faith in him.
7:23 p.m. Fri, May 23
Most likely Bayern said we are not selling so we leaked this shit and we get him on a free. i hope.
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funnily enough...I think Bayern would have sold him if Moyes was still here. Its obvious the player does not want to renew his contract and wants to come here...and wants to play for van Gaal...but the bad blood between van Gaal and Bayern has not gone away.
Says who? I think all Kroos wants is more money and acknowledgement. He has lost the buzz of being one of the most important and talented stars in the club, with the emmergence of the likes of Gotze and Thiago.
Don't think that working with LvG and more cash substitutes Kroos for no European football next season. In fact, this could have well been his position: If you qualify for Europa League: Deal. If not: Let's wait until summer 2015 and see if you're back on European stage.
Makes perfect sense for a player of his calibre.
We'll get him for free and Reus for €35m next season.
Next summer is the real summer.
Next summer is the real summer.
Kroos will demand a hefty, two-digit signing fee which needs to be included in "for free" considerations. I doubt that Reus would sign for United but that's just me.
Kroos will demand a hefty, two-digit signing fee which needs to be included in "for free" considerations. I doubt that Reus would sign for United but that's just me.
If we are back in the CL and ready to pay decent wages than I see few reasons for his reluctance. Ofcourse all bets are off if Bayern get involved.
Not just if Bayern is involved. Provided they offer CL football and are interested, I can see Reus moving to Arsenal. Real Madrid is another option - again, only if they make another offer.
Good luck to him if wants to go to Real as a back up to Ronaldo and Bale. We trump Arsenal with CL football, that's not a worry.
CL football is a prerequisite. I can see Reus moving to AFC because of a German speaking manager and his N11 team mates. Time will tell where he'll end up next summer.
CL football is a prerequisite. I can see Reus moving to AFC because of a German speaking manager and his N11 team mates. Time will tell where he'll end up next summer.
You have made peace with the fact that he would not sign an extension and would definitely leave?
It's not really a trend ''at the moment'' - it's more of a permanent thing over the last ten years that has been particularly worryingly consistent in the last five.
No club consistently fails in its transfer targets as often as we seemingly do. And only Arsenal of the bigger clubs are less ambitious in the market.
Transfers are becoming our version of Liverpool's EPL titles.
When have we depended on transfer windows to win league titles? If this forum is to be believed than LvG is the second coming of Christ. Turns turd into golden nuggets.
We do now. The squad is a bit average and we're losing pieces by the minute. Also while we do have some exciting talent coming up from the academy there's no class of 92 version 2 to bail us out.
Paul Scholes' comments about how he is absolutely someone we should sign seem curiously like he had heard something was going on for him. Who knows, maybe he was just commenting on speculation but I doubt it.
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We definitely need quality in a couple of positions. If Woodie devotes as much time working on actual transfers as he does reporting to the press than we may come up winners by the end of the transfer window. This is his litmus test, lets wait and watch what happens.
We could do well with selling the players who have become burden on the team and replacing them with younger, hungrier quality additions. Then I really believe, if we are back in the CL, we can make a couple of big moves.
Woodie and LvG need to come through this term as everyone suggests they will.
he did not want to accept Bayern's renewed offer.
Because there was no wage increase...
....they wont meet his wage demand.
Which is what he wants! He doesn't want to leave Bayern, as I stated, he wants more money and acknowledgement.
they were close to a deal...then it all went south.
more money and recognition were part of it obviously. But Bayern stance was has not changed. There must be other factors...we are speculating of course.
There are no other factors. If he leaves, it's because they haven't met his wage demands.
...and how do you know this?
Alright mate. You believe that Kroos wants the move and is being held against his will all you please.
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Bayern and Kroos haven't been close to a deal. If you had followed Kroos' interviews during the last couple of years, you'd be aware how much he strives for being widely acknowledged as world class player in the Ballon d'Or range. He'll move to any club with CL football giving him exactly that "special one" feeling.
I've never been unsettled as I 've known from his very first interviews in his first season with us that Reus will use his exit clause. All I was saying is that he won't move to a club without CL football; he's not primarily driven by money but silverware as he's 25 in some days and besides of the German Super Cup, has never won a trophy.
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