That's that then. This summer is going to be a disaster again I can feel it.
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I'm not saying we shouldn't pay top wages (we already do), what I am saying is that if it is clear that is the players main motivation (ala Nasri) we should more than likely stay clear, I am happy with that.
Thought the plan was to get most of our transfers sorted before the WC though?
Must have read Ed's numerous statements wrong i guess!
Yep, our inability to haggle that little bit further is non-existent. We are so frigging stubborn when giving into Club/Players/agents demands. I know it's only end of May but the transfer windows for us are so frustrating.
I fecking knew we wouldn't get any players in before the World Cup... James Mcarthy?!
These players rarely move and if they move they usually go to clubs with near unlimited funds.
We need to aim lower ie good quality players who haven't yet been snapped by the top sides or clubs who can afford asking us ridiculous amounts of money
Nah man i agreed with ya, i probably didnt word it right though. Sorry
Nasri is a great example alright. He's a despicable git & i'm not even sure bein at a club like United might even make him humble & appreciative of the environment he's in.
But in sayin that - can you imagine being a City player at the Etihad?! There's feck all glorious historic artefacts. We've a feckin museum ffs, not to mention OT as a whole. Its a monument of football - bombed by the Germans in WWII (probably Bayern fans too), yet we rebuilt & made it bigger & better. City wont be able to spunk all those type of sums ever again without being scrutinised severely & that'll lead to expulsion from European football if it does!
Chances of a repeat of last summer and we end up over paying for a shite player who doesn't improve us at all?
To be fair players like Kroos rarely move clubs and when they do they tend to go to clubs offering them crazy money
How do you know the club isnt doing that? The press are desperate to link any and every player to United because its an easy story and way to generate paper sales, re-tweets and/or website traffic.
People take one lot of speculation that player x is signing - from some numpty on twitter, then stary moaning when some other numpty tells them its "all off".
Well why don't we let these top clubs sign the best players then and we'll buy the dross.
"Thema" means topic or subject.
He's saying it was never something that was on his agenda, suggesting there's never been any question of him considering joining United, presumably that the story is nothing more than the work of the tabloid journalists who get paid for making shit up. What a job.
He's saying it was never something that was on his agenda, suggesting there's never been any question of him considering joining United, presumably that the story is nothing more than the work of the tabloid journalists who get paid for making shit up. What a job.
Like we did last summer with Fellaini & Everton?
That plan didnt end well & £27.5m out of pocket to boot!
We've shitloads of dough, feck shooting low - aim high. We need a world-class mid-field & its been long overdue since we had Keano & Scholesy... and Carrick & Scholesy in their prime - 3 Champions League finals in 4 years in case anyone disputes that world-class tag i gave that duo!
Exactly. We don't need "good" players as cover, we need new first team CMs.
Nah man i agreed with ya, i probably didnt word it right though. Sorry
Nasri is a great example alright. He's a despicable git & i'm not even sure bein at a club like United might even make him humble & appreciative of the environment he's in.
But in sayin that - can you imagine being a City player at the Etihad?! There's feck all glorious historic artefacts. We've a feckin museum ffs, not to mention OT as a whole. Its a monument of football - bombed by the Germans in WWII (probably Bayern fans too), yet we rebuilt & made it bigger & better. City wont be able to spunk all those type of sums ever again without being scrutinised severely & that'll lead to expulsion from European football if it does!
Haha no apology required, we're on the same page
Its true we are in a great position with FFP coming into play, and the tradition of the club. That's why I am optimistic about this summer.
This thread is proof that this forum, as much as the team, needs to be gutted.
A few posters are making a few decent points and then getting shouted down in a wave of emotional based bullshit and scaremongering.
A few posters are making a few decent points and then getting shouted down in a wave of emotional based bullshit and scaremongering.
this place is a goldmine right now.
Indeed.
I for one am outraged by the fact that 13 days after the season finished - and almost a week since the new manager was appointed, we have not signed 7 new world class players - despite AgentITK69 posting on twitter that they were all "a done deal". I mean, what the hell is Woodward doing?
I now fully expect us to sell Fellaini and then buy him back before the season starts because we can't get anyone else.
There's a huge gap between the likes of Fellaini and the likes of Fabregas. Players who slot easily between the two like Herrera, Koke, Calvalho, Strootman, Firminio and Rakitic would all improve our CM greatly and are all realistic buys
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Haha no apology required, we're on the same page
Its true we are in a great position with FFP coming into play, and the tradition of the club. That's why I am optimistic about this summer.
Yeah page 117 man - but i'd say we'll be on page 118 pretty soon & before you know it - it'll be page 1057 & we'll still be slating Nasri. Fine by me to be honest - i could slag that prick all day, probably have aswell
I'd rather LvG spunked a shitload on only top-class players - not potential. We have potential & that has to introduced, but get the 1st team top-class from top to bottom 1st & then we can gradually feed the young lads in when we've a solid foundation & they can be carried for a game or 2 if needed. I dont think any of the names i've in mind will want to be carried either though!
Decreasing age and intellect of posters apparent. Also the increase of pseudo intellectual over-analysis compounds this trend making the place like any other hysterical message board on the internet.
Exactly. What's the point of bringing youngsters in if we don't have top quality first team players to show the way? It's not by bringing youngsters just to replace Young, Valencia, Nani, Cleverley, Fellaini and Carrick that the reconstruction plan will work. Those youngsters need to be well surrounded by top class professionals so they can be nurtured in the right way.
Sorry but I love this so very, very much.
This is what you said & lead me to believe you meant a seriously lower level of baller:
Those lads you mentioned will not come cheap whatsoever (upwards of £40m) & those are the lads are the types i've been talkin about gettin in - aswell as Kroos of course, but i'm kinda goin off him & realising that he's a bit shit really
Guys! Guys!....It's back on! Some Arab site says so!.....Look! Look!....
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This is what you said & lead me to believe you meant a seriously lower level of baller:
Those lads you mentioned will not come cheap whatsoever (upwards of £40m) & those are the lads are the types i've been talkin about gettin in - aswell as Kroos of course, but i'm kinda goin off him & realising that he's a bit shit really
I am not sure about that. Vidal for example who was doing very well at Leverkusen was signed for 15m by Juventus.
Fees is not the problem at this point. The problem is getting our hands on players who actually want to be here. Its pointless to offer crazy money on players who do not want to come at OT.
Out of those you've just listed. Rakitic, Strootman and Koke aren't realistic, Rakitic wants to stay in Spain while Strootman would cost a bucket load of cash to get and with Atletico selling Costa, they don't need to sell Koke (nor why the feck would he want to move to us). I still question Herrera's ability, was never sold on him and he's not impressed me this season.
Firmino would certainly improve us, but he'd be shunted out on the left, which would mean dropping Januzaj or pushing him to the right. Firmino does his most damage in the AM role.
Calvalho's interest appears dead in the water and with the Sporting manager joining Monaco, could easily see him going in that direction this summer.
So the only achievable target in your list is Herrera.
LvG is not David Moyes. And if Eddy doesn't get the players wanted(if there was ever a list) Van Gaal will surely get whoever he wants before the Tranfer Market is closed. This guy doesn't feck around.
We certainly have more of a chance signing these players then estabilished world class ones.
Come on Cina, youve been known to get all "woe is me" about our midfield too, Im sure of it. Just embrace it. Let the desperation and humiliation that is to come wash over you. Its what being a caftard is all about isnt it?
We can probably forge a mean first XI from the United signings that never were:
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--Coentrao-----Garay-------??---------Baines
-------------------Kroos---Thiago--------------
---Sanchez----------Sneidjer--------------Lucas
----------------------Benzema--------------------
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--Coentrao-----Garay-------??---------Baines
-------------------Kroos---Thiago--------------
---Sanchez----------Sneidjer--------------Lucas
----------------------Benzema--------------------
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13930301000476
A £20million deal for Kroos was agreed when David Moyes was still in charge at Old Trafford and his successor, former Bayern coach Louis van Gaal, has said the move can go ahead, Daily Mail reported.
A £20million deal for Kroos was agreed when David Moyes was still in charge at Old Trafford and his successor, former Bayern coach Louis van Gaal, has said the move can go ahead, Daily Mail reported.
I'd have hazard and ozil in there aswell.
Agreed, but even then it's going to cost a significant sum of cash to get said clubs to force their hands. I mean club record type bids. Roma paid £15m for Strootman last summer for example. His form in Serie A suggests that valuation was generous, he'd cost an addition 5m at least add in his contract length (2018) and you'd need a minimum of 5m ontop of that. Would Roma accept a 10m profit on a player they signed one year previously? Or would they expect a minimum of £30m.
We're a bit fecked really. We're going to have to spend a large amount of cash on those type of players, rather than the world class ones the team is crying out for imo.
It's going to be an intriguing Summer for sure.
I still think hes coming, but wont sign until after the world cup. Its wise of him to pour water over the rumors allowing him to concentrate on the WC, and that works for both sides.
The Class of 92 had Smikes, Irwin, Parker, Cantona, Hughes, Brucie, Pally, Ince etc - all leaders & captains. Those young lads wouldnt have developed as quickly without those men to guide them when they were introduced to the 1st team.
Breaks my heart thinkin about that feckin 5 foreigners rule in Europe. That 94 team would have won a couple of Champions Leagues in many peoples eyes & not just United fans either. They had everything - hard as nails & skill to boot. Bloody dream team it was!
Fixed?
Well if Iran says so - thats good enough for me. Aint messing with those fellas thats for sure
As I see this Kroos wants United, United want Kroos (clearly), but Bayern want to keep Kroos without giving him higher wages. Both Kroos & Bayern show no sign of coming to an agreement on a new contract, but at the same time they're probably rebuffing any advances from United to show how much they "want" Kroos to stay. Kroos has said he expects to be at Bayern next season, but hasn't mentioned anything regarding his contract, so the balls in his court now. He can tell Bayern fair enough I'll stay, but if he states his desire to leave in 2015 on a free will Bayern allow that? Plus United act like we're not interested in signing him now then... we can gladly wait a season and get him for free, they don't have to have our money if that's the route they want to take. So a compromise that he'll stay on for a year but leave on a free will only force Bayern's hand to sell him for cash now. If played out right they'll have to come back to us looking for the cash. It would also help explain the current quotes from Kroos & the press quotes about LvG not wanting him any more - we can wait till after the World Cup, it will only continue to test Bayern's resolve.
Now I know it sounds like a hell of a lot of wishful thinking, but transfers are never straight forward, especially when big players are involved.
Now I know it sounds like a hell of a lot of wishful thinking, but transfers are never straight forward, especially when big players are involved.
"The Droos" sounds like "The Stroot" - count me in. Must be a top player. Are you gonna start a thread or will i man? Feck Kroos anyway - he's no pace!
Indeed. Get it trending.
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