Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)

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He played more shit than gold. I remember only his duet with Anderson at the start of the season a few season ago.

But so far he doesn't seems to look arsed, not developing, and not worthy of being a Manchester United. His display against Palace is abysmal, no passion at all, feels like watching a fat kid flat track bully who play because the other kids can't say no to him.

Good F'in Riddance.

And no, I don't hate him as a person, but his ability
 
gasmanc said:
His TC23 brand.

By the way that's a decent article on Cleverley holding a lot of truth, it just loses itself slightly at the end when it picks up the latest stick to beat United with, losing it's identity selling it's youth products declaring that some have "lost sight of what their football club represents".
If I was sceptic it's almost as if the whole article is geared towards getting that message out there.
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Agree on that bit regarding the article.
 
Cleverley says that bigger boys made him leave...

“If any footballer gets a bit of stick off their own fans they are going to be hurt. Football is a game of opinions and you can’t please everyone.
“I am happy to get away from some of the negativity. Whenever you are not winning trophies at Man United the players are going to get some stick.
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ts-man-utd-career-over-after-aston-villa-move

While I feel bad for him since he has been at the club for many years, he didn't help himself much by saying that he was happy with his game and that the booing was only from people who didn't understand how important he was to the team. I hope he does well at Villa but his comments here make me think that he's going to do an Anderson and just settle for the ability that he has right now.
 
Hope he does well so that someone will buy him. He is done here. Never really warmed to Cleverley at all.
 
@Sb_16 Didn't realise his contract expires next summer. Silly business on the clubs behalf if that's the case. Apparently Everton offered cash for him in a permanent deal but we wanted more. Seems like a senseless act, if true of course, considering now he will walk for nothing.
 
Now, all that is left to scrap is Fellaini, Anderson, Evans, Smalling, Valencia, Young, Mata, RVP, Carrick, Fletcher, Rafael, Lindegaard and bring in som new blood!
 
Robbie Boy said:
@Sb_16 Didn't realise his contract expires next summer. Silly business on the clubs behalf if that's the case. Apparently Everton offered cash for him in a permanent deal but we wanted more. Seems like a senseless act, if true of course, considering now he will walk for nothing.
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It was his wage demands that held that up, apparently we had (or were fine with) accepted the offer.
 
Robbie Boy said:
@Sb_16 Didn't realise his contract expires next summer. Silly business on the clubs behalf if that's the case. Apparently Everton offered cash for him in a permanent deal but we wanted more. Seems like a senseless act, if true of course, considering now he will walk for nothing.
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Im sure his agent told him that he can get a better sign on bonus as a free player next summer.

Wanker!
 
Hopefully he has a great time at Villa up to January. That way it could put Villa in a bit of a pickle - either sign him permanently or compete against Everton and hopefully a few others to sign him for free next summer. All depends on him putting in the performances to generate such interest though, so i'm not completely confident.
 
SharkyMcShark said:
It was his wage demands that held that up, apparently we had (or were fine with) accepted the offer.
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RedStarUnited said:
Im sure his agent told him that he can get a better sign on bonus as a free player next summer.

Wanker!
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Ah cheers! I read somewhere that we demanded more from Everton. So he's looking for a scramble for his signature in order to get a bigger payday. He's becoming a dislikable chap.
 
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I like how when a player we like looks for the best deal he can, the reaction is, well it's his career, he has to look our for his best interests. When it's someone we don't like, it's what a fecking wanker, it's all about the money.
 
SharkyMcShark said:
It was his wage demands that held that up, apparently we had (or were fine with) accepted the offer.
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RedStarUnited said:
Im sure his agent told him that he can get a better sign on bonus as a free player next summer.

Wanker!
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Robbie Boy said:
Ah cheers! I read somewhere that we demanded more from Everton. So he's looking for a scramble for his signature in order to get a bigger payday. He's becoming a dislikable chap.
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Close enough. Everton came in and tried to low-ball us. We refused. Cleverley would have preferred to go to Everton to work with Martinez so almost walked away from the Villa deal when he thought Everton was an option.

Basically he did absolutely nothing that any other footballer wouldn't do in the same circumstances but for some reason people on here (and on social media in general) are intent on portraying him as a greedy wanker who is fecking over United.
 
His agent has taken a hit in the media. It's quite rare journalists would go to print and actively blame the agent, name included. Almost like the agent is taking the hit for his client?

I'm glad we didn't let those arseholes on Merseyside low ball us anyway. It's about time we stopped gifting them.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Ah cheers! I read somewhere that we demanded more from Everton. So he's looking for a scramble for his signature in order to get a bigger payday. He's becoming a dislikable chap.
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We were and so we should. They made a pisstake offer after being we aware of his going rate. For all the hassle they gave us last year.. I'm glad we didnt accept it.
 
Mainoldo said:
We were and so we should. They made a pisstake offer after being we aware of his going rate. For all the hassle they gave us last year.. I'm glad we didnt accept it.
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From a business point of view it's a-bit silly though if he moves for zilch when we could have made a few million.
 
Mainoldo said:
We were and so we should. They made a pisstake offer after being we aware of his going rate. For all the hassle they gave us last year.. I'm glad we didnt accept it.
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This. Everton can piss off really. I'm glad Chelsea took them to the cleaners with Lukaku and I hope so does Cleverley, if they look to buy him next season.
 
I really hope he finds his confidence and has a fantastic season at Villa. No footballer deserves some of the abuse that has been directed at Tom over this past season or two. Hopefully he can prove his doubters wrong.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I really hope he finds his confidence and has a fantastic season at Villa. No footballer deserves some of the abuse that has been directed at Tom over this past season or two. Hopefully he can prove his doubters wrong.
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Agreed

I cant think of many Utd players who have received the abuse he has. Some of our fans are dicks
 
MDFC Manager said:
This. Everton can piss off really. I'm glad Chelsea took them to the cleaners with Lukaku and I hope so does Cleverley, if they look to buy him next season.
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Martinez has had a dig today saying we didn't loan him to Everton because they're our rivals and they finished in front of us. He's awfully cocky after one season isn't he.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I really hope he finds his confidence and has a fantastic season at Villa. No footballer deserves some of the abuse that has been directed at Tom over this past season or two. Hopefully he can prove his doubters wrong.
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Yep. He might not be the greatest footballer but it is not his fault that we were too stupid to buy some first class midfielders and had to play him as a starter. This petition against him playing in the WC has been a really awful action.
 
I'm sure Tom Cleverly will think 'Good riddance' even more when he reads some of the comments on this very long thread if he can be bothered.

I really cannot understand the outpouring of hostility against the lad. Tom did well enough for us during his time here but some of you are acting as if he should have just sucked up any old offer that came his way instead of having the self-confidence to wait and see what could transpire. There are times when waiting your chance is rewarded, other times it will not get you anywhere.

The Telegraph at present has an online article about how Tom is tired of the stick he has gotten. His perspective seems right - he doesn't feel he deserves it but it's time to move on. I disagree with the Telegraph's subtle dumping on both Tom and Louis Van Gaal by making it look as if Louis and United are desperate to get rid of Tom.

The fact is Louis Van Gaal said honestly that Tom wouldn't be playing every week if he stayed and as a lad with ambition he has to move on. Thanks Tom, some of us think the stick you received was unnecessary, hostile, and at times puerile. Best wishes.
 
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Fans are just bunch of dick-head but If you can't deal with pressure at the top level, you ain't going anywhere. Mentality is also one of the factor separate great players from the rest.
Do people really think Cleverly got abused by fans more than Ronaldo ?
 
fallengt said:
Fans are just bunch of dick-head but If you can't deal with pressure at the top level, you ain't going anywhere. Mentality is also one of the factor separate great players from the rest.
Do people really think Cleverly got abused by fans more than Ronaldo ?
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It's true. Remember Ben Foster? Simply couldn't handle the pressure at United, he went to Birmingham and became Birminghams player of the season and the Players player of the season.

I hope Cleverley does impress for Villa, even if I have been pretty hard on him when he was at United.
 
fallengt said:
Fans are just bunch of dick-head but If you can't deal with pressure at the top level, you ain't going anywhere. Mentality is also one of the factor separate great players from the rest.
Do people really think Cleverly got abused by fans more than Ronaldo ?
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The difference is rival fans hated Ronaldo because he was so good, but Cleverleys own fans hated him because he was so crap. You can understand why that would wear you down.

I don't endorse any of the comments he received though, I really hope he finds done form for Villa. He's better than his last year with us would suggest.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I really hope he finds his confidence and has a fantastic season at Villa. No footballer deserves some of the abuse that has been directed at Tom over this past season or two. Hopefully he can prove his doubters wrong.
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same here. never understood the abuse he got.
 
if he walked on a free in the summer, would we get that up to 4mil compensation because he was a youth team product? or do you have to be much younger, i dont really know how it works.
 
El Zoido said:
The difference is rival fans hated Ronaldo because he was so good, but Cleverleys own fans hated him because he was so crap. You can understand why that would wear you down.

I don't endorse any of the comments he received though, I really hope he finds done form for Villa. He's better than his last year with us would suggest.
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Ronaldo got booed by Real Madrid's fans in his early day as well, for various reasons but mostly because he tended to disappear in El Classico and other big matches but he's got much better over time .
The point here is players is human, their performance get affected by emotion true that but the important thing is how they react to it. If Cleverly believes he's crap just because other people say so then he's really crap. I agree no one deserves to be abused from his very own fans but United don't need that weak mentality at this level.
 
Good deal for Villa if they get him on a free next summer. Certainly not a brilliant player but will do a job for them, certainly. Good business for them and I wish him all the best.
 
Did Cleverley ever get abused at matches? I can't remember hearing about it. If he doesn't like anonymous idiots abusing him directly (as opposed to non-direct criticism on this august forum) then maybe he should close his twitter account?
 
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