"Aston Villa reserves loan watch"
Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)
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Hope he does well and gets a good move after the loan expires. He has real potential and has shown it several times, but for whatever reasons he hasn't been able to perform nowhere near consistently, and the last two seasons have been pretty bad. Injuries (Kevin Davies
) haven't helped for sure.
I remember when he was on loan at Watford and Wigan, and did really well, especially at Watford (11 goals/33 games), and everyone was thinking he had a bright future ahead of him. Hopefully another loan can bring back the Cleverley of old. At the end of the day he just didn't make it here.
) haven't helped for sure.I remember when he was on loan at Watford and Wigan, and did really well, especially at Watford (11 goals/33 games), and everyone was thinking he had a bright future ahead of him. Hopefully another loan can bring back the Cleverley of old. At the end of the day he just didn't make it here.
.....now who are we going to blame....
Jonny Evans is my guess. Most seem to have already started.
ah yes, you're right....he's really starting to get the serpents venom...
Talent is half the battle. Couldn't handle the mental pressure.
Fellaini, Anderson, Evans, Valencia and Young are still at the club.
So. Many. Scapegoats.
Best situation really; hopefully he can rebuild the character that he used to be and come back after a year hungry to take back his spot.
absolutely deserved.
I wish Tom the best. Seems a good guy. As much as I would like to see our youth players feed into the first team, he simply wasn't good enough.
I don't.. Hope he fails big time along with Welbeck..
you and your mama
Is his contract running out at the end of the season?
Yes.
After that stutt you pulled on her she aint all that happy..
That sucks. Instead of getting the 7mill fee from Villa we're loaning him to the same club and then eventually going to lose him on a free presumably to Everton.
No I think we accepted the £7m fee from Villa. But he rejected them once he knew Everton wanted him.
That's not what the two of yeas said when I waved goodbye
could be. The scum lurking on twitter and even here is insatiable. My only hope is that one day, same thing could happen to them....
Man, Cleverley has done himself no PR favors in his career.
Wonder if he'll be forced to play more midfield or if he'll get to attacks out wide or as a no.10.
Wonder if he'll be forced to play more midfield or if he'll get to attacks out wide or as a no.10.
Man those were not pillows!
Been a defender of him, so truly wish him well and hope this can kick start his career elsewhere. Some real hypocrites in here though.
Poor show by Cleverley and his agent. He's probably definitely going permanently to Villa in January.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...nchester-United-as-deal-goes-to-the-wire.html
Both Villa and United were said to have been “furious and frustrated” over Kennedy’s conduct during the entire negotiation process, which started early last week.
En route to Villa’s training ground for a proposed medical, Kennedy is understood to have told United that Everton were prepared to pay Cleverley’s wages and the transfer fee and made alternative arrangements to travel to Finch Farm, the Merseysiders’ training base.
However, Everton chairman Bill Kenwright told Ed Woodward, United’s executive vice-chairman, they could not afford the deal so the move was scrapped.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...nchester-United-as-deal-goes-to-the-wire.html
Both Villa and United were said to have been “furious and frustrated” over Kennedy’s conduct during the entire negotiation process, which started early last week.
En route to Villa’s training ground for a proposed medical, Kennedy is understood to have told United that Everton were prepared to pay Cleverley’s wages and the transfer fee and made alternative arrangements to travel to Finch Farm, the Merseysiders’ training base.
However, Everton chairman Bill Kenwright told Ed Woodward, United’s executive vice-chairman, they could not afford the deal so the move was scrapped.
Both clubs were so disappointed with Kennedy’s conduct that it formed the basis of their plea to the Premier League to agree the deal, with the application considered at board level before it was finally sanctioned at about 3.30pm on Tuesday, the deal sheet having been submitted before the deadline. Kennedy was unavailable for comment on Tuesday.
That doesn't make much sense at all.
Don't see what's wrong with that, to be honest. If you were on your way to Villa and Everton came calling, you'd do the same. The only question is why did his agent think Everton were willing to pay the fee? Perhaps Everton wanted to negotiate.
Other than that this is pretty much what Berbatov did to sign for us.
Other than that this is pretty much what Berbatov did to sign for us.
What is there to negotiate? Everton are broke and couldn't pay the transfer fee/wages. The agent would have known that. You don't just drive over there and hope they magically have the money.
Berbatov did it while being sold as well IIRC.
First he was off to Fiorentina and everything was agreed, and they had even paid the first guarantee or something and paid for his flight to Italy which he had boarded. Then Juventus came in and hijacked the move leaving Fiorentina furious and they released a open statement.
Funny thing is before Juventus could sign and he went to Turin, Fulham came in and hijacked that as well and he decided to return to England and stay for family reasons over footballing. Now Juve were furious.
Was such a hilarious mess.
Thank God he's gone. Villa can have that TC23 mess
I see that his biggest supporter on here, @Red Phoenix Rising has been banned. I wonder why.
So does anyone know how this deal will work out for us? Is it a loan that will become permanent automatically next year in which we receive the fee Aston Villa originally bid for him? Or do we miss out on the fee, lose him on a free next year and also pay him a loyalty bonus because he saw his contract with us out?
I think they have the option to buy in January.
Is he not free to speak to any clubs in January as he would have entered the last 6 months of his contract? Hence no need for Villa to make an offer as they can already discuss terms with him.
Can only speak to foreign clubs.
But let's be honest, if he's on loan at Villa and they want to keep him, it won't be hard to engineer a move that works best for them i.e. offer him a pre-contract deal behind closed doors for when his United contract expires.
They could definitely engineer some form of deal, but I'd imagine Villa will be wary of testing United's legal team.
Who gives a crap? 5-8m won't make much difference for us, long or short term.
Don't forget Fletcher.
Whats up with that?
Good summary of his career so far and how and why it didn't work out with us.
http://www.stretford-end.com/2014/09/united-failed-help-tom-cleverley-fulfil-potential/
It's a strange one. He was thrown into a position of responsibility very early into his united career in a time when our midfield has been at possibly it's lowest point in decades and decades. On the other hand, few young midfielders, get so many chances at such a big club to improve themselves and make the spot their own.
If he can get his confidence back, as well all the things that made him exiting at the start, he'll do very well in the premier league for a long time.
http://www.stretford-end.com/2014/09/united-failed-help-tom-cleverley-fulfil-potential/
It's a strange one. He was thrown into a position of responsibility very early into his united career in a time when our midfield has been at possibly it's lowest point in decades and decades. On the other hand, few young midfielders, get so many chances at such a big club to improve themselves and make the spot their own.
If he can get his confidence back, as well all the things that made him exiting at the start, he'll do very well in the premier league for a long time.
Wonder what number he'll get?
Why do you wonder about such things?
His TC23 brand.
By the way that's a decent article on Cleverley holding a lot of truth, it just loses itself slightly at the end when it picks up the latest stick to beat United with, losing it's identity selling it's youth products declaring that some have "lost sight of what their football club represents".
If I was sceptic it's almost as if the whole article is geared towards getting that message out there.
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