Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)

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Good luck to him and hopefully he joins Martinez next year. He will do well in Martinez' system, especially as an attacking midfielder.

Most United fans here and at OT can now hopefully sleep well again, now that Cleverley, who cost us a fortune on wages and fee and who is the sole reason of the state of our midfield is gone. (that bad state which started several years before Cleverley actually started exsisting in United's 1st team squad).

Now let's all appreciate in midfield instead (everytime Blind and/or Herrera are not available) our vice captain who is as uninspiring as Moyes and worse than Cleverley at the moment, and the super bargain Fellaini whose real potential we will only see now the evil Cleverley is gone, who was of course holding him back.
 
Oh and btw, it seems the deal to Everton yesterday also didn't happen because our club was busy with Falcao and Welbeck. But yeah, let's continue abusing Cleverley without knowing what's going on!
 
I really did think he showed a lot of early promise. But his confidence went and I don't think he was ever going to get it back playing for us. Good luck to him.
 
We might be the best club in the world at getting as little money as possible for our players. He'll go for free after the loan
 
Has any United player in recent memory been hated by his own like Cleverley. Fellaini and Nani get booed but saying Cleverley's name just seems to set people off.

Its mad.
 
So after all the meltdown last night when it looks like he was staying and now he's finally gone. Would have rather we got a fee for him, but ah well. At least he can't frustrate me any more.
 
Rossa said:
Spot on - that's all about supporting your team and players I suppose...
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Sixpence said:
Thank god he's gone. His very presence on the pitch winds me up.
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I just find it a little strange. We are all frustrated Cleverley didn't become the player we wanted him to be, and I could understand people getting miffed last night when it seemed like Cleverley was trying to do the club over on cash, but the hate...

I used to be petrified when Silvestre got near the ball in our box, but I didn't hate the guy. This reaction of pure, almost fanatical hate...I can't remember it from Man Utd fans towards our own players.

And its not just the internet fans. Match going fans also seem to have it in for him.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
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I really hope he goes on to have a good career. We had high hopes for him a couple of years ago, unfortunately his performances recently have been absolutely dire. I couldn't believe how poor he looked struggling to pass the ball more than 5 yards. Sad to see him and Welbeck go, but things had to change.
 
According to re-tweets and favorites on the official United announcement on Twitter, 574 fans "hope he dies because hes shit anyway". Stay classy lads, remember there were 11 players on the pitch last season, not just 1.
 
united_99 said:
Good luck to him and hopefully he joins Martinez next year. He will do well in Martinez' system, especially as an attacking midfielder.

Most United fans here and at OT can now hopefully sleep well again, now that Cleverley, who cost us a fortune on wages and fee and who is the sole reason of the state of our midfield is gone. (that bad state which started several years before Cleverley actually started exsisting in United's 1st team squad).

Now let's all appreciate in midfield instead (everytime Blind and/or Herrera are not available) our vice captain who is as uninspiring as Moyes and worse than Cleverley at the moment, and the super bargain Fellaini whose real potential we will only see now the evil Cleverley is gone, who was of course holding him back.
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He wouldn't even get in the team at Everton he would be used as a squad player in a few different positions and he lacks the ability to be effective as an attacking midfielder. I see your point about fellaini and fletcher but their days are probably numbered too and Cleverley isn't really any better than either of them. This is the best solution for everyone involved and I am glad we won't see him in a utd shirt again because he isn't good enough, the same could be said about other players but there was no option but to let him go.
 
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I just find it a little strange. We are all frustrated Cleverley didn't become the player we wanted him to be, and I could understand people getting miffed last night when it seemed like Cleverley was trying to do the club over on cash, but the hate...

I used to be petrified when Silvestre got near the ball in our box, but I didn't hate the guy. This reaction of pure, almost fanatical hate...I can't remember it from Man Utd fans towards our own players.

And its not just the internet fans. Match going fans also seem to have it in for him.
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That is unfortunately too true. He wasn't good enough for United, but as a squad player he was OK. Anyway, the hate, as you say, is simply over the top and something I just cannot relate to concerning our own players.
 
Rossa said:
That is unfortunately too true. He wasn't good enough for United, but as a squad player he was OK. Anyway, the hate, as you say, is simply over the top and something I just cannot relate to concerning our own players.
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I think it angered people that he was chosen to play by Fergie and Moyes even though in their mind he was beyond shit. When he played and we lost he was the cause of it and when he played and we won he had no part in it. You would have thought the poor guy personally went round to United fans houses and called them cnuts or something...
 
Blue always red said:
I think it angered people that he was chosen to play by Fergie and Moyes even though in their mind he was beyond shit. When he played and we lost he was the cause of it and when he played and we won he had no part in it. You would have thought the poor guy personally went round to United fans houses and called them cnuts or something...
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People are going way over the top. Also, during Fergie's reign, he was still young and promising and also a local lad, so it would be madness not giving him chances considering he had impressed at times. Now, the ship seems sailed for him. I feel bad for the lad, but ultimately I think it is the right move for him and the club, although I wouldn't mind keeping him as a squad player.

The thing is probably different with Welbeck as people have much more faith in him becoming a top class player.
 
I can't believe we got rid of Tom Cleverley.
We'll regret this.
Our identity is broken :rolleyes:

Good luck to him...
For his sake, I hope he does well. Keano will not have the same patience Fergie or Moyes had
 
Roboc7 said:
He wouldn't even get in the team at Everton he would be used as a squad player in a few different positions and he lacks the ability to be effective as an attacking midfielder. I see your point about fellaini and fletcher but their days are probably numbered too and Cleverley isn't really any better than either of them. This is the best solution for everyone involved and I am glad we won't see him in a utd shirt again because he isn't good enough, the same could be said about other players but there was no option but to let him go.
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Exactly. Given LvG's requirement for thinking footballers, I don't think Tom ever had a chance.

RedSRM said:
I really hope he goes on to have a good career. We had high hopes for him a couple of years ago, unfortunately his performances recently have been absolutely dire. I couldn't believe how poor he looked struggling to pass the ball more than 5 yards. Sad to see him and Welbeck go, but things had to change.
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Those high hopes were built on 3 1/2 matches at the start of the 11/12 season. The Caf being what it is, Cleverley got the raves during that little run while it was actually Anderson who provided the quality (he was the highest rated midfielder in the PL for the first 4-5 games that season).
 
Glad this deal has happened albeit rather late. I'm hearing conflicting reports on the terms of the deal, is it a loan until January? Or the season? Also is there an option to buy?
 
One of plus points on this was getting fed up with getting the shot ripped out of me when Cleverley used to play or come on etc. mid table mediocrity should suit him down the ground.
Good luck Crab
 
Frankly I'd have rather we kept Cleverley as cover until we signed a midfielder. At worst, he's better than Fletcher IMO because he can at least get about a bit.
 
.Rossi said:
I can't believe we got rid of Tom Cleverley.
We'll regret this.
Our identity is broken :rolleyes:

Good luck to him...
For his sake, I hope he does well. Keano will not have the same patience Fergie or Moyes had
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Keano is being talked about like he's the manager, he's not, Lambert ffs.
 
RDCR07 said:
Why would they pay for him when they can get him for free six months later? Its not like there are teams lining up to sign him.
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:lol:

Why would he agree to sign for them when he'd be a free agent in a few months? I'm sure he'll think that £7.5M would sit better in his own pocket.

Does Woody understand how football works?
 
I don't know whether this question has already been asked. Why didn't we subsidize his wages if Everton were ready to pay 8m? We could have then made a profit at least? This way he leaves for nothing at the end of the season.
 
Got a ridiculous amount of stick last night for the heinous crime of not being sold. Feel a bit sorry for him, so I hope his loan goes well.
 
Massive shame things have gone downhill so quickly for the lad. I really liked him when he burst through into the first team, and even in his second season I thought he defiantly had enough to be a long term squad player in the ilk of O'Shea, Brown, Fletcher et el. Not sure what really happened.

Good luck to him. Hope he rebuils his reputation.
 
#07 said:
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I just find it a little strange. We are all frustrated Cleverley didn't become the player we wanted him to be, and I could understand people getting miffed last night when it seemed like Cleverley was trying to do the club over on cash, but the hate...

I used to be petrified when Silvestre got near the ball in our box, but I didn't hate the guy. This reaction of pure, almost fanatical hate...I can't remember it from Man Utd fans towards our own players.

And its not just the internet fans. Match going fans also seem to have it in for him.
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It seems to happen to every academy player that gets brought in to the first team but doesn't look to be quite good enough for United. The Gibson hate was similar as was Richardson's and even Fletcher before he turned it around. Maybe its part of the United way. It probably seems even worse now due to the constant expansion of the internet and social media. Amongst the match goers and fans you meet in the pub the levels seem similar to the other examples in my experience.
 
justboy68 said:
It seems to happen to every academy player that gets brought in to the first team but doesn't look to be quite good enough for United. The Gibson hate was similar as was Richardson's and even Fletcher before he turned it around. Maybe its part of the United way. It probably seems even worse now due to the constant expansion of the internet and social media. Amongst the match goers and fans you meet in the pub the levels seem similar to the other examples in my experience.
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Yeah, you're right. I forgot the Fergie's son jibes about Fletch. I guess time makes the memory hazy and, as you say, social media takes what's said drunkenly down the pub global: you get polls calling for Cleverley never to play for United or England again etc. etc.
 
Lambert and Keane will get some courage into him and build him up again. Talent wise this is his level but no reason why he can't be an important player for them.
 
Carl said:
I've been missing him for about 2 years. Shadow of his former self and what he could have been.
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Very true. What happened to the Cleverley that came on against City in the Community Shield and turned the game around.
 
With regard to the thread title I'm rather hoping that him fecking off means i don't have to "watch" him at all now
 
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