Cleverley, Cleverley
We're the famous Man United
And we've got Tom Cleverley
Cleverley, Cleverley...
We're the famous Man United
And we've got Tom Cleverley
Cleverley, Cleverley...
Tom Cleverley | 2012-14 Performances
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Quality. 
Simple but catchy and effective.
How about a variation?
Fergie, Fergie, look over here
The boy is better than wine and beer
He's young, he's young, but watch him go
He is fast and they are slow
Fergie, Fergie, look over here
The boy is better than wine and beer
He's young, he's young, but watch him go
He is fast and they are slow
That is excellent. Although, I'd like to hear some new tunes sung.
Is this a Cleverly chant or Ashley Young?
Either way....it's a bit shit (no offence)
Is this a Cleverly chant or Ashley Young?
Either way....it's a bit shit (no offence)
No offence taken. Maybe I don't understand chants.
61 passes attempted 97% completed (11 out of 12 long passes successful) 4 key passes.
Very good performance in the first half.
Very good performance in the first half.
Very good half in the first half.
Pity he always seems to fade in the second.
Pity he always seems to fade in the second.
Yeah, what is up with that, surely he can't have stamina issues at his age.
I love Tom, I think he allows Carrick to play at his best imo because he always makes himself available and does a lot of the running in midfield. Our one touch passing was great in the first half in particular and Tom was often central to that.
Anyone who thinks he can't play a killer ball should look at that chipped through ball for van Persie to run in behind the defence before he set up Nani for a strike. Guaranteed we'll see more of that the longer he stays in the team.
Love the way this boy plays football. Needs to find a way to maintain his edge throughout the match. Very much like Scholesy in how wants to play quickly off of freekicks, head always on the swivel and constantly on the move.
With him in the side, you know more often than not, he'll be a reliable outlet for you. Could be a top player for us.
With him in the side, you know more often than not, he'll be a reliable outlet for you. Could be a top player for us.
It's cos he sprints like a nutter the whole time. It's very useful in opening up space, but it will Traveller you out.
With Anderson it's something similar I reckon. He takes more breathers than Tom but he also makes some really long runs.
He keeps things ticking for us. I love his playing style and I wouldn't want him to change it for a second. SAF is finally starting to trust him now over Scholes, that's fairly evident now. I'd be surprised if some United fans still weren't convinced that he has a big future with us, he's going a great job this season.
Was really impressed in the first half. Good touch, awareness, composure, passing ability. Keeps things ticking over nicely. Great little player. All of those attributes were on display when he set up Rooney who hit the post with the shot.
I'm trying my best to fall in love with him but I just can't see it with him. For me he's weak and one paced. My mates rave about him I bow to the masses but I just can't see it with him yet.
You know what my favourite thing about Cleverley is? He always runs towards the ball... ergo, he is always available for a pass.... which always gives Carrick someone to pass to if theres nothing else on, which invariably helps us retain possession.
This is unless of course our Cleverley sees a gap open up or a space to run into, which he is brilliant at both identifying and doing, and so again, making himself available for a pass.
In short, he's fecking fantastic.
This is unless of course our Cleverley sees a gap open up or a space to run into, which he is brilliant at both identifying and doing, and so again, making himself available for a pass.
In short, he's fecking fantastic.
I don't think he fades in the second half. Fergie often takes him off, but Fergie always takes off a CM around that time in the game, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything about Tom.
Don't recall him always taking the likes of Fletcher off and Carrick rarely comes of. Just think like Ando - the pace they play the game at means they'll tire quicker. It's not a negative, rather we get a good 70+ high energy minutes than 90 minutes at 80% to finish out games.
As both Cleverly and Ando gain that bit more experience, they may very well learn to use they're energy more efficiently. The game that they play demands a tiring shift, that's for sure.
I don't really see Anderson and him tiring as that big of a problem. They rarely play at the same time so when one tires we should be bringing the other on. It would obviously be great if they could play the whole game at the same high tempo but since we have both I think that's a good way to utilize them.
97% passing accuracy today, ridiculously good considering he set up few nice chances, played couple of through balls and lot of diagonals to wingers.
i'll kick myself, but wheres the tune from again?
'Wish I was at home for Christmas'.
Thought he played well, throne criticism was that he seems unwilling to carry the ball forward when the opportunity presents itself. There were a couple of times he had acres of space in front of him but instead looked immediately for the pass.
It's a relatively minor gripe I just think if he could add a bit of dribbling to his game he could really go up to the next level.
Like I said though on the whole a good performance. I agree with those who said he brings out the best in Carrick too.
It's a relatively minor gripe I just think if he could add a bit of dribbling to his game he could really go up to the next level.
Like I said though on the whole a good performance. I agree with those who said he brings out the best in Carrick too.
Is it just me thats notice he's been playing a few more long balls in the last month so? Signs of improving confidence? He's just very reliable, he keeps play fast, always provides an option and his decision making is generally brilliant. Very nice to have such a solid player in the middle.
he does fade although last game I thought he still looked pretty fresh when he came off so i was a bit surprised he was the one to come off.
Previous games you can tell hes tiring as he'll join the attack but if theres a counter he'll be labouring to get back - like people have mentioned once his positioning and energy conservation senses sharpen (with experience) he'll be just fine.
Right. I don't think anyone should really worry about his influence fading. The fact he is beginning to assert himself more in games is heartening enough. Better management of his fitness throughout the match will come with experience. This is his first full season with United were he's getting the game time he needs and it's showing.
I so much agree with you....
I think Cleverley is criminally underrated here and our manager's obsession with Giggs/Scholes have stunted Cleverley's trajectory. The lack of a constant starting berth for most of our midfielders make them relatively under-rated in my opinion unlike the Wilsheres, Lampards, Gerrards and Yaya Toures who are almost guaranteed to play everytime debarring injuries.
If we cut down to the chase, Cleverley is the better talent....He's neater with his passes, he has got a better football brain in that he rarely tries risky passes that would put his team in trouble. He's reluctant to give the ball away and he generally keeps the ball in possession better than any English midfielder i have seen in the past 5 years. Fergie needs to start trusting him more like Wenger did with Wilshere. If Cleverley gets a run of 20 starts for us back to back then football fans worldwide would start rating Tom Cleverley!
I think SAF trust him and Ando. But SAF is managing their game time in light of their injury troubles.
Really rate Cleverley but, it is inaccurate to say he doesn't make risky passes that puts the team in danger. Liverpool most recently and there has been at least one other occasion earlier in the season (can see the play, can't remember the game) where he gave away possession that lead to the other team scoring. There have been other times he's done it that hasn't cost us as well.
Overall a very tidy player and does have an eye for a pass - should only get better with games given his talent.
Overall a very tidy player and does have an eye for a pass - should only get better with games given his talent.
You could have used this argument in the earlier part of the season but its absolute nonsense to use it now. IIRC, Cleverley has started every big games this season bar the Spurs game at home. He has 21 starts and 2 sub appearances in all competition so far. Only 4 players have started more games than him.
I was only comparing him to Wilshere in terms of who puts the team into trouble the most. Every player makes mistakes. It was Xavi's mistake that led to Celtic beating them in that famous victory - the question is how often are these mistakes made? In that respect, Clevs is heads and shoulders above Wilshere.
Wilshere - 15 league appearances, 1273 league minutes
Cleverley - 17 league appearances, 1205 league minutes.
In spite of the fact that Wilshere did not kick a ball until October 27th, he has managed to cop more league minutes under his belt than Tom Cleverley. Wilshere has not missed a single minute in the league since the first week in December. In a nutshell, Wenger has more faith in Wilshere than Fergie does to Cleverley.........
This is a good read for those who care.....
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...hat-he-does-tactically-for-manchester-united#
Yep, exactly. Which backs up this explanation for why SAF did use Cleverley (and Anderson) so sparingly in the early part of the season:
And in Tom's case at least it seems to have worked out. And Anderson's injuries, though they've still happened, have caused smaller disruptions to his season than the usual chain reaction which keeps him out for four or five months.
I don't agree. He's been substituted at that 75-80 minute mark plenty of times without looking particularly tired - just like he was against Fulham. That one definitely wasn't a fatigue thing. The last thing he did before coming off was bust a gut to get back and cover a potential Fulham break, having been involved in the move taking us to the edge of their box. He definitely wasn't taken off because he was tired. But people notice the pattern and assume it's a fitness thing.
I can't be bothered to look it up now, but someone in another thread (I think it was I'm Always Right) showed that in most matches SAF has taken off a CM between 65 and 75 minutes, and it's been Carrick almost as many times as it's been Cleverley. Not sure that Fletcher's relevant, given that he hasn't played for months.
I have a feeling that he's going to shine vs Madrid over two legs. It's great to finally have a player like him in the middle, especially now that Scholes is nearing the end for real now. He's performed in pretty much every big game this season and even when not at his best, he still keeps things running for us.
And the media rarely give him the credits he deserves.
Considering Cleverely can barely play 70 minutes without looking wrecked, I'd say there's a good reason he plays less than Wilshire.
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