He is the worst player in our squad. The word "limited" doesn't even come close to describing him. And the miss? Christ this was a bad day.
Tom Cleverley | 2012-14 Performances
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That moment when he skied it after Rooney's good free-kick summed him up really. No creativity from him in the middle. He's not one of those awful Obertan/Bebe type players, but he's just never going to be a top player here.
Can't really defend him anymore. He's painfully average. Inspires no confidence and his movement of the ball is the worst I have ever seen from any midfield player.
The typical fairweather midfielder. When the team is already playing well, passing the ball about, scoring goals and being successful, he can come in and pass the ball about as well and doesnt look out of his depth.
If a team is awful, cant pass the ball about, cant score goals, will never be successful, he'll only come in and look the same.
If a team is awful, cant pass the ball about, cant score goals, will never be successful, he'll only come in and look the same.
For a player as limited as him he did alright today I thought.
Poor again. All setup for Anderson to get a run in the side. Oh wait...
It's strange, I saw Cleverley different to all of you. I think Cleveley best excels when he's trusted on the ball and he gets more than 1 pass to be able to create something. I.e, he receives the ball, passes it on and moves (Not always). He should be given the ball back to him to play the 2nd or 3rd pass and wait for that opening. When he has other players making runs and better movement around him, then he does well, but when they're all static when Cleverley gets the ball then it takes away from what he wants to do.
Either way, he wasn't just a sideways passing player today (although yes I know he did make passes sideways) but he was linking up play a lot better than he was before. I still think he has something to offer us, but damn I wish he scored.
Either way, he wasn't just a sideways passing player today (although yes I know he did make passes sideways) but he was linking up play a lot better than he was before. I still think he has something to offer us, but damn I wish he scored.
He's an average number 10, not a midfielder at all IMO.
Weak in the tackle and lacks any creativity why is he getting a game at United? This is one of the main reasons we are not in the top 4, too many average back up players.
This is pretty spot on.
Gibson was a better player then he is IMO. And we all gave Gibbo tons of flack and were happy when we sold him to Everton. Just like Valencia, Young, Moyes, Fellaini, and a few others, Cleverley is at the very most, a mid table team. At this moment he probably wouldn't stick out at a bottom half mid table team either, which says it all.
I would seriously consider playing with 10 men than have him in the side....i just don't see what he offers to the team.
Biggest problem: He's not a winner. And Moyes certainly won't make him one.
They had a break when we were 2-1 down and because he couldn't be arsed sprinting and keeping up with the Stoke runners turned into a 3 on 2 break.
I thought he had a decent game, lots of movement and passes forward. He missed a golden chance to score and everyone spouts the tired cliches but everyone stays silent whenever he did something positive. So many are only looking for his mistakes which today were far fewer than the rest of the team. He combined well with Mata when Mata was moved centrally in the 2nd half but not many saw that.
How anyone can say that he was 'good' today is beyond me. If that now constitutes as a good performance, then we really have lowered our standards on what to expect from our midfielders.
True, good post. When we lose, people flock to the Welbeck/Cleverley threads to vent their frustration.
Where did it all go wrong for Clev? Skimming through the first 100 pages of this thread and people were likening him to Zidane and Iniesta but now it seems as though Gibson is rated higher than him. Did his injuries really strip him of his confidence, or are we just playing too restricted of a game for him to get forward?
This squads Kieran Richardson. Too many financial and material rewards before he has earned them and thinks he has already made it. Sell.
He just doesnt have the ability to take over a game. He has been in the first team for almost three years. Im not asking him to be Scholes but spray those cross field balls from time to time. Switch the play, do something different and not just pass it to your teammate standing next to you. By now if you havent developed that skill, you are never going to and that is why he is never going to a regular starter for us. He is starting for now because we have to make do with what we have.
Has never shown a constant to his game. Has a good game in 10 but his bad games are truly shocking. Anderson really must have been a shower of shit in training to get dropped for Cleverley. He wouldn't have got in the Stoke midfield yesterday. He can't read the game to save his overpaid arse.
Good God.
I'm struggling to see what I originally seen in him when it comes to the pitch, but this post is baseless. He comes across well to me. Quite boring, infact.
He's the typical overrated homegrown talent. Welbeck and Smalling (the latter is not homegrown but he's British) are other classic examples.
Smalling is actually good. He is our most consistent defender right now. Although he cant make a pass to save his life.
We would never sign a player like this so why do we persist with him? If he wasn't a youth player he'd be long gone with the Liam Miller's of this world.
He was good for around 3 games (where Ando was better than him anyway) and people suddenly thought that he's the next Xavi. Point is - as we saw yesterday - even Charlie Adam can look good on some games.
He has never been good enough for us, and I really don't think that he'll ever be. If I was manager, after Young and Buttner, he would have been top of my shipping list.
Except that he can't score or make an assist. He would look even more horrible playing as No.10
He is a player who is good enough to play for a team on the second half of the table, maybe even for a team 8-10th position. That's it.
Seeing as he's barely played as a no 10 I am not sure how you can say that
Doesnt he play as a #10 for England?
Brand cleverley. Enough said. 3 pl games under his belt and he launches that wanky website and tries to turn tc23 into the new db7. At least becks had earned the right to be a tit by dint of his on field achievements, what has tc done, feck all.
He had a great chance yesterday. There's no player in the game who balloons more shots than Tom Cleverley, I can't believe how bad his shooting technique is at times. I think it's a product of his overall style of play - lack of conviction and belief in himself.
Don't think so.
He hasn't played as a goalkeeper too but I don't think that he can do a job there.
He doesn't have any of the characteristics a good No.10 have. He has the composure of Welbeck, his shoot usually is shit (like we see everytime he tries it), he never brings the ball forward and is very uncreative. All of them are characteristics that a No.10 must have.
All of this, he'll be good (in this case average) No.10, or he'll flourish in a three man midfield are only excuses for him. He simply isn't good enough.
His technique is overrated. The way he over-exaggerates the swing of his leg when striking the ball is hugely annoying too.
Well, he's not far off playing for us
Admittedly, that is bellend behaviour, but his character off the field, of which we still know little about, has nothing to do with his empty performances in midfield. Bit harsh, I reckon.
When he played further forward for Watford in the Championship he got into double digits. Even at Wigan he scored more than he has ever done for us playing in a position that offered more freedom.
Is it just me that finds it alarming as to how many professional footballers kick the ball in a weird way? Hernandez can't kick a ball properly either. I'm shite, but I can bend a ball and not look odd whilst doing so. Valencia seemingly can't kick the ball with the inside of his foot either. It's mental.
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