Tom Cleverley | 2011/12 Performances

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Yeah it's so easy to get to the final - it's not like they played well, they just showed up and other teams just stood by and let us into final. It's not like over the season we also won the league over the course of 38 games, Giggs, Carrick didn't contribute - nah, not at all.

What must SAF be thinking going into the season with just 2 CM in Cleverley and Anderson - he's lost it.

I know right, but it's not like we played a Chelsea team in turmoil, or a dire Schalke team, or had fantastic attackers and defenders to leave the weaknesses in our midfield less exposed is it?

It's also not like Anderson and Cleverley were used against 2 poor Arse and Spurs sides either.

Anyway, sarcasm over. My point wasn't that we've a weak midfield or whatever, which people do seem to believe, but we did not do so well last year because of a Carrick and Giggs midfield partnership, which was ultimately exposed in the CL final.

For the record, Ando and Cleverley will strike a much better partnership than Giggs and Carrick did, long term, but a 2 man midfield just is not enough at times in the modern footballing era.
 
Editorial | Cleverley: A United hero in the making | ESPNSTAR.com

Cleverley: A United hero in the making

After three games of the 2011/12 Barclays Premier League season, Manchester United are sitting comfortably at the top of the table with three wins from three.

To most observers on the outer, everything at Old Trafford is almost perfect at the moment.

Wayne Rooney, in a polar opposite to last season, has started this campaign on fire and more importantly, with a smile on his face. Initial concerns over injuries to key defensive duo Nemanja Vidic and Rio Ferdinand have been thrown out the window in the wake of an impressive partnership between Jonny Evans and Phil Jones, who already looks a bargain at £16million. Fellow summer arrival Ashley Young has made an immediate impact on the left-flank, and even young goalkeeper David de Gea is showing signs of steadying after a shaky start to life at United.

Yet the excitement currently emanating through the air at Old Trafford is a stark contrast to the atmosphere around the club just over two months ago, immediately after the 3-1 Champions League final defeat to Barcelona.

On that fateful night at Wembley, the newly-crowned English champions were comprehensively outplayed by their Spanish counterparts. Many predicted doom and gloom to follow for United, especially with the impending retirements of veterans Edwin van der Sar, Gary Neville and Paul Scholes, who for so long had been the backbone of the club.

The most troubling issue to arise from the loss to Barca was a lack of energy and creativity in the middle of the park, which meant that the normally-dangerous front pairing of Rooney and Javier Hernandez hardly managed a sniff at goal.

For so long, Scholes had been the man to provide that spark from midfield. Against Barca, he didn't even start - and even when he was introduced - hardly made a mark on the game. Clearly, the old maestro's time was up.

All summer long, everyone felt that United needed a world-class playmaker if they were to have any chance of establishing themselves as Europe's finest. Names like Luka Modric and Samir Nasri were briefly bandied around, but there was one player constantly linked to the club. For most, Wesley Sneijder to United was almost a dead-cert.

Failure to agree terms with Inter Milan meant that the dream move never materialised. Yet a month into the new season, most United fans are not even remotely troubled by the non-arrival of an established playmaker.

A certain 22-year-old by the name of Tom Cleverley is the culprit for that.

A year ago, fresh from impressive loan spells at Leicester and Watford, Cleverley had high hopes of making a first-team breakthrough at United. Yet his manager Sir Alex Ferguson did not think he was quite ready yet. Off he went down the road to Wigan, where he spent the next ten months toiling in an ultimately-successful battle against relegation.

And while he left for the Latics a boy, he returned as a man. A season's worth of being on the receiving end of crunching tackles. Ten months of fighting a grown man's battle in helping his loan club avoid the dreaded drop.

An impressive pre-season upon returning to Old Trafford saw Cleverley named on the bench for this season's curtain raiser against arch-rivals Manchester City in the Community Shield, primed to finally make his debut for the club he joined as a 12-year-old.

45 minutes into that match, United were staring an embarrassing defeat in the face, after goals from Joleon Lescott and Edin Dzeko gave City a comfortable 2-0 lead. And as a slightly-built, young lad stood on the touchline at the start of the second half, most believed Cleverley's introduction was an act of desperation more than anything else.

Yet when the final whistle blew to signal a 3-2 comeback victory for United, Ferguson was once again credited for a stroke of genius. To suggest Cleverley had dragged his side to victory would be unfair to the likes of Nani, Rooney and Chris Smalling, who all played their part in overhauling City's two-goal lead. But the drive that Cleverley brought about in midfield had United fans convinced that he could just be one for the future.

Three Premier League victories later, along with a call-up to Fabio Capello's England squad, it is clear the future is now.

Cleverley's mature displays so far have made a mockery of the earlier claims that the Red Devils desperately needed Sneijder, which has not gone unnoticed by the United fans who have since unfurled a banner which reads: "Who needs Wesley? We've got Cleverley".

And far from being daunted by such a bold proclamation for his adoring fans, Cleverley reveals he has used the banner as a source of motivation.

"I did [see the banner]," Cleverley told The Sun. "Wesley Sneijder is fantastic, but if the fans think that, I must be doing something right."

Following a slightly nervy start to their Premier League defence at West Brom, where only a late own-goal claimed all three points for United, the Red Devils got into their groove last Monday with a 3-0 home win over Tottenham, before completely annihilating rivals Arsenal 8-2 on Sunday.

Cleverley acknowledge that, with the amount of talented players at the club, the ability to put in a performance like Sunday's against the Gunners is always a possibility.

Nonetheless, he concedes that it is still quite surreal when it all comes together during an actual game.

"It's a real pleasure to play in a display like that with world-class players.

"I see that in training that we have it in our locker, but when it all comes together it is pretty exciting.

"We are a young, high-energy team and hopefully we will keep putting on performances like that and that the trophies will come.

"We were ruthless in front of goal [on Sunday]."

A key component of United's attacking play in recent times has been their fluidity across the park. Against the Gunners, wide men Young and Nani regularly switched sides to keep their opponents guessing, while Smalling once again put in an adventurous yet accomplished display in the unfamiliar role of right-back.

Cleverley believes the versatility of the United players adds an extra dimension to their attack.

"We look good going forward. Our versatility means that almost anybody can occupy the forward postions and we can swap about.

"We know each other's games inside out - it must be a joy to watch."

Having had to bide his time during all those loan spells, Cleverley's rise from youth team player to first-team regular has not exactly been a rapid one. Nevertheless, the 22-yearold reveals he always believed he could follow in the footsteps of past academy graduates who went on to become United legends.

"I have always looked on thinking one day I want to be on the pitch.

"It is happening, but I have got to work hard and stay there.

"Growing up around Gary Neville, Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt and David Beckham, you know the history of the club.

"I looked at Scholes and Beckham, top professionals you can model your game on."

And Cleverley, who previously wore the number 35 jersey, also reveals that Beckham was his inspiration when Ferguson offered him a new shirt number.

"The manager offered me 22 or 23 [but] I prefer wearing odd numbers.

"David Beckham was my idol growing up, and he wore 23 at Real Madrid and still does with LA Galaxy."

However, while it may be Beckham's jersey number that is currently emblazoned on the back of his shirt, it may just be Scholes' influence in the middle of the park that Cleverley ultimately goes on to emulate.

And if he does so, United fans could just have a new hero in the making.
 
Massive show of faith from SAF by not buying a midfielder - and with it a lot of pressure. His early season form shows that he deserves that chance to step up and become a regular first team starter.

Still think it's a big gamble not to have strengthened in CM but SAF shows he's the master time and time again - looking forward to seeing our future with the youngsters.
 
So time to get the Cleverley jersey then.

Cleverley>> Wesley anyway.
 
So time to get the Cleverley jersey then.

Cleverley>> Wesley anyway.

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So time to get the Cleverley jersey then.

Cleverley>> Wesley anyway.

Way to take it like a man.

I don't much care to wear football shirts, but I want Cleverley on my back just to show my pride!

Though that article above didn't mention Anderson once. For me, he's been just a bit better than Chunks overall, especially carrying the ball forward, er, I mean attacking the space!

I don't think anyone expected him to come in and be better than Anderson anyway, who is also obviously having a fantastic start to his campaign.
 
Just keeps it simple for me. Good energy, wins the ball and keeps it moving, nothing special, yet.
 
Massive show of faith from SAF by not buying a midfielder - and with it a lot of pressure. His early season form shows that he deserves that chance to step up and become a regular first team starter.

Still think it's a big gamble not to have strengthened in CM but SAF shows he's the master time and time again - looking forward to seeing our future with the youngsters.

If SAF has that much faith in him who am I to doubt him.
And I've backed it up by just ordering a home shirt with his name on it! :devil:
 
It hasn't quite happened for him yet, but I think he has goals in him too. He's found himself in good positions at times thanks to his drive and good movement. And, in fairness, I think he is a capable finisher. He just needs one to go in. Ando and Clev should be aiming for ten league goals between them this season.
 
Cleverley is capable of ten goals himself.

If he had his shooting boots on he'd have two or three already.

The only one he 'should' have scored was the one against Spurs when he tamely sidefooted into Friedel's palms - he tried the Henry finish, but needed to dink it.

With his propensity to pass and move, and his tendency to play the one two around the box, he should find himself in loads of shooting positions.
 
The only one he 'should' have scored was the one against Spurs when he tamely sidefooted into Friedel's palms - he tried the Henry finish, but needed to dink it.

With his propensity to pass and move, and his tendency to play the one two around the box, he should find himself in loads of shooting positions.

He definitely should have scored vs Arsenal. It was a sitter.
 
The only one he 'should' have scored was the one against Spurs when he tamely sidefooted into Friedel's palms - he tried the Henry finish, but needed to dink it.

Eh? That was from outside the box.

His chance against Arsenal was a much easier one.
 
I think people are getting confused? The Spurs chance was from the edge of the box unless he had another chance i've forgotten? Against arsenal, he has a similar opportunity which he didn't quite get round and he had the one where he played the one two and again didn't adjust his body well enough . It's tough to say how many he'll score AND create..i'm sure he'll create a few
 


Video evidence: we need Sneijder :lol:
 
Video evidence: we need Sneijder :lol:

Nice compilation but, hardly evidence that someone of Sneijder's quality is not needed. Maybe should really wait till the season ends before jumping to such statements.

I did love the video, it's so nice to see how quick he is once he gets the ball. I rate Carrick and that's exactly how I'd wish Carrick would be at times, play with a bit more urgency. He continues on this form and will probably join your laughing at "we need Sneijder".
 
Yes. He looks good. But not finished article yet - obviously.

May also be worth pointing out that this new way of playing is not the finished article either. The players are still getting used to it. With Carrick oppposition had few opportunities to score. Without a DM there are more opportunities. I prefer this way of playing as much more the United way (also moving towards the Barcelona way).

Anderson and Cleverley will have to get used to it.

Anyone remember the world cup in German when someone got injured or suspended (was it Hargreves, Gerrard, or Lampard). Carrick came on and had a blinder passing the ball 1st time and looked like the England player we'd all been waiting for. I wish that Carrick would come back - moving the ball with first time passing and with precision and keeping the pace of our passing moving and the opposition guessing!
 
Good video. A few sexy touches and some very creative passing.

I love the way he always seems to know what he wants to do with the ball before he even gets it, and as soon as he releases it he's off to find space to receive it back. A few very nice touches in that video to make further space for himself aswell. He's going to find himself in a lot of goalscoring positions this season and we've seen in the past that he's a very accomplished finisher so the goals will come.
 


Video evidence: we need Sneijder :lol:


I love these compilations of all a player's touches, great for getting a quick idea of their impact and efficiency.

I'm still amazed by his awareness, he's always got his head on the swivel, he seems to know where everyone is, his passing makes him look like he's got eyes in the back of his head, or up in the stands.
 
Has anyone seen a decent shot of Chunks with that blood streaming down his face? Classic warrior shot, I'd love to have a poster with bloody Chunks on it!
 
Nah, we had a relatively easy run to the final, which deceived most of us into thinking we would get away with playing 2 in the center against Barcelona, and we got bitchslapped. Our away troubles last season were mostly as a result of our midfield crumbling in the face of stiff opposition.

Bollocks. We played brilliantly against Chelsea in the Semi Final - including our midfield. Our away results were partly because of our midfield, but also a result of several other factors. Far too simple to blame all that on the midfield.
 
I think its clear evidence that this kid is going to become a special player. He knows exactly what he is going to do with the ball before he gets it and even knows what to do with the ball if option A becomes unavailable. The quality is there for everyone to see.
Sneijder isnt coming, Im not worried. We have lots of options.


Nice compilation but, hardly evidence that someone of Sneijder's quality is not needed. Maybe should really wait till the season ends before jumping to such statements.

I did love the video, it's so nice to see how quick he is once he gets the ball. I rate Carrick and that's exactly how I'd wish Carrick would be at times, play with a bit more urgency. He continues on this form and will probably join your laughing at "we need Sneijder".
 
In my opinion, he is already our first choice midfielder, alongside with Anderson.
 
Re the confusion on p97 about which match his 'sitter' was against, my bad. It was Arsenal that he missed the easy opportunity. The Spurs game he produced a good long range effort that Friedel tipped wide.

Against City the ball fell to him in the box but he snatched at it with his left foot.

The positive is that he continually gets himself into goal scoring positions.
 
Re the confusion on p97 about which match his 'sitter' was against, my bad. It was Arsenal that he missed the easy opportunity. The Spurs game he produced a good long range effort that Friedel tipped wide.

Against City the ball fell to him in the box but he snatched at it with his left foot.

The positive is that he continually gets himself into goal scoring positions.

Precisely, once he nets a few he could easily start scoring on a regular basis. He's a positive player always looking to run forwards, he passes the ball and he's off moving towards the box.

Exciting times :)
 
He has such a great understanding of the game. I hope the other potential first teamers in the pipeline have that as well.
 
Re the confusion on p97 about which match his 'sitter' was against, my bad. It was Arsenal that he missed the easy opportunity. The Spurs game he produced a good long range effort that Friedel tipped wide.

Against City the ball fell to him in the box but he snatched at it with his left foot.

The positive is that he continually gets himself into goal scoring positions.

Cleverley scored 11 goals from midfield for Watford which is excellent from central midfield. He averaged a goal every 3 games.

He certainly has goals in him and like I have said on here last season in the Gibson thread is a very well rounded player and will be immediately liked as a result. Surprised by how quickly he has taken to central midfield for United and the England call up though. Early days but he's been a revelation.
 
Yes. He looks good. But not finished article yet - obviously.

May also be worth pointing out that this new way of playing is not the finished article either. The players are still getting used to it. With Carrick oppposition had few opportunities to score. Without a DM there are more opportunities. I prefer this way of playing as much more the United way (also moving towards the Barcelona way).

Anderson and Cleverley will have to get used to it.

Anyone remember the world cup in German when someone got injured or suspended (was it Hargreves, Gerrard, or Lampard). Carrick came on and had a blinder passing the ball 1st time and looked like the England player we'd all been waiting for. I wish that Carrick would come back - moving the ball with first time passing and with precision and keeping the pace of our passing moving and the opposition guessing!

It's not JUST Carrick...he can only play first time passes if other players are moving on the pitch...his poor form is not solely down to one thing.
 
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