Koulibaly, De Ligt, Skriniar, Umtiti, Alderweireld, Manolas, Boateng. In that order.
Toby Alderweireld
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It's cute, the amount of faith the Spurs fans have in Levy, it really is. If only Wenger had learnt from Levy how to spin the media narrative...
I agree with this.
Because every team has a limited budget? Not to mention signing 4/5 players can be as detrimental as it can be beneficial.
Jose doesn't set up defensively most of the time, but in many big away matches he will Iregardless of how good his defence is, it's just how he is.
Jones admittedly hasn't had a great year, but Smalling has done well.
If we sign Toby our attack may be slightly better, but it wouldn't improve as much as if we actually improved the midfield and attack, which is why centre back shouldn't be a high priority.
By all means sell Jones
Then promote one of Axel or TFM
Smalling, Bailly, Rojo, Lindelof, Axel/TFM would be fine next year.
Bailly and Lindelof need more patience, but both imo will be much better next season, Rojo can be rotation and Axel and TFM are exciting talents that we won't see if we buy Alderwiereld.
Hope we sign him and sell Phil Jones, who should actually have a decent market value after a decent season and making the England Squad. Loan for Tuanzebe; Toby, Bailly, Smalling, Lindelof, Rojo. TFM can cover too.
I think Jose needs to trust his defence before we start to play expansively, Alderweireld and Alex Sandro would be perfect in addition to Dalot.
I think Jose needs to trust his defence before we start to play expansively, Alderweireld and Alex Sandro would be perfect in addition to Dalot.
I'm not exactly sure what you're implying? Arsenal, despite reputation, have always been quite reckless with both their finances and their transfer policy.
We've spent a lot of money on the midfield and attack already. Lukaku Matic Pogba Sanchez, not to mention sounds like we'll be adding 2 CMs this summer and maybe a backup striker or replacement for Martial to play RW.
I think its quite obvious our midfield have too much defensively responsibility due to Jose not trusting the defence, so fullbacks and a CB is a priority. Also the fullbacks should hopefully improve our attack also.
I think we set up defensively as a team because Jose is a defensive manager.
People are going to be very disappointed next season if they think that's going to change.
I agree with this, but I also look at our defenders and the way we play and its clear the midfield and wide players are not supported enough by them, even for a Jose side.
There have certainly been moments under Jose when we've set out in a more attacking fashion only to be defensively suspect and then revert the next match.
Jose may not be a full out attack kind of coach but his default across most games isn't to be overly defensive imo
Any further developments/rumours on this?
I mean selling your best players yet somehow coming out the hero
Very unhappy? Probably not. £25m next summer is peanuts? Not really, especially given his age, and it's still nearly double what we paid for him.
And in the meantime we'd have him in our squad for the forthcoming season and United wouldn't.
It might not be an excellent idea, but neither is it such a bad one for Spurs. So the idea that United hold all the cards is a fantasy I'm afraid.
We've spent a lot on centre backs as well, we've got one each year since Jose has been here. Buying Alderwiereld when we have Bailly, Lindelof, Axel and TFM as potential options seems reductive to me.
It isn't quite obvious at all, Matic is a very defensive player, so he defends more than he attacks, Pogba very rarely gets back to defend which is why we're looking to add another midfielder to have more balance.
In all teams across the world the midfielders will be expected to defend, thinking adding Alderwiereld and fullbacks will mean that Matic and Pogba suddenly have little no defensive burden is entirely false, we attack as a team and defend as a team.
Jose has always been a somewhat defensive manager, but his teams have also been very quick and effective in the transition to attack. Hence why his teams have so often actually finished the season as the top scorers in the league. That's what we are currently so very bad at, and anybody who thinks that he wants it that way is definitely mistaken. For some reason we are completely unable to make that transition with any kind of speed.
You don’t think the player will become VERY unhappy if you keep dangling and dangling and pull out right before the window closes?
Also, losing out 30m or so for one year is a good idea?
I really really do not agree with the arguement people are using against us signing Toby saying “we have 6+ centre backs already”. Yeah we do, and not one of them is even close to being at the required level to win a premier league title or CL. This signing makes so much sense . He is in a different league to anyone we have at the moment . The arguement that we have plenty of players on that position is irrelevant when none of them have the desired quality . I genuinely just can’t see how anyone can argue against this really . I think this is the most important position we need to fill
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You don’t think the player will become VERY unhappy if you keep dangling and dangling and pull out right before the window closes?
Also, losing out 30m or so for one year is a good idea?
It might depend on how much United offer, and on whether Poch wants Martial (and if he does, whether Martial would like to come to Spurs).
If Poch does want Martial and if Martial would like to come to Spurs, then United would have to consider themselves about keeping an unhappy player ... and Levy might consider a United refusal to sell a good enough reason to do likewise with Toby.
No different to Sir Alex then, really.
Sir Alex came out as a hero as he won shit loads to leagues and other trophies, not because of his work in transfer market.If martial wants to go to a club like Tottenham, and we're happy to sell him to you so we can get Alderwiereld then the world has gone mad.
The problem for you is that it’s be relatively easy for United to find a foreign club willing to pay Martial what you’re offering.
It’d be almost impossible for you to find a foreign club willing to pay Toby what we offer.
Sir Alex is a hero for what he wonWhy would Martial go to Spurs, genuine question?
World class training facilities, world class stadium, world class manager, world class team
Zero trophies
That's out of context - no one really kicked up a fuss when he let good players leave for not toeing the line.
The reality is that no-one is calling DL a "hero", but the fans that show an interest (i.e. not passive fans) will be aware that TA has messed the club around with a contract renewal and can be replaced. The fact is, Pochettino is quite clear that he doesn't want to keep players based on ability, but also their commitment and attitude - anyone that doesn't want to stay, doesn't have to.
At the same time, the fans are grateful for how TA has played for the club, and don't begrudge him his, potentially, last big move to a club that regularly wins things. It's the same as when Sheringham went to United in many ways.
for the bakery built into the new ground.
He let good players go when they had a fall out, he gave players like Ronaldo and Cantona lot of freedom on and off the field. Contrary to popular belief, SAF wasn't a dictator, he had different methods for different players to get best out of them. When they had a fall out then there is only one way that is going to end as SAF was the boss.
Not even sure why you brought SAF into this.
Because it is a direct comparison of how Pochettino operates - quite possibly something he learnt from SAF himself. I'm not sure where the context of "trophies" or "how he let them play" has anything to do with the subject of handling who should and shouldn't be sold (it doesn't).
The thread for this conversation stream started when the suggestion was made that DL is "selling (our) best players". That isn't the case at all, no more than Kenyon/Gill "sold" first teamers during SAF's tenure. The only reason why anyone has left or is leaving since MP has been manager is because he has made the decision to let said player(s) leave.
The fact of the matter is, Alderwerield has 2 years left on his contract - he has chosen not to sign the extension that was originally agreed to (where by choice or poor advice), and instead has constructed a scenario where he has been deemed disposable by the manager. If he leaves, I'm sure DL will do what he has always done and will get a good fee for him.
Where this differs from Wenger/Arsenal (hard to yet distinguish which), is that for some unknown reason, Arsenal have always seemed quite happy to sell their best players to United/Chelsea/Barca (rivals, at the time; not so much now) for the going rate or less. A self-fulfilling prophecy really, when you look at where they are now.
To play regularly in a top 4 team?
I hope the world has gone mad.
He can't get that anywhere else?
Hell, join Juve and he's guaranteed that and a league winners medal.
Would he play regularly though?
Clubs like Monaco, Dortmund etc are much better options for his development
Apart from Ronaldo, players who were sold were because SAF either fell out with them or thought they aren't good enough, completely different to what's happening at Spurs where players want to leave to win trophies or earn more. Obviously it's MP's decision but his decision is forced by the will of the player. No different from what happened before.
Hopefully he won't be dreaming CV ofWe finished above Arsenal
We finished in top 4
Lowest net spend
We got Kane.
I agree.
Full backs are the future of attacking football.
I think Pep showed the way last season. Get the defence personnel right, and you can actually attack with more venom.
We got a new stadium.
We finished above Arsenal
We finished in top 4
Lowest net spend
We got Kane.
We beat Real Madrid 3-1
We finished above Arsenal
We finished in top 4
Lowest net spend
We got Kane.
Maybe he is settled in England and wants to stay in the Premier League? Who knows - strong rumours that we were very close to signing him last summer and again rumours on spurs forums that we are pushing for him again this summer. No idea if it will happen but personally I hope it does. Jose doesnt seem to rate him.
True but like I said perhaps he wants to stay in England? Who knows.
Close to signing him? When Spurs make 20-25 million bid and gets rejected without second thought, its not counted as "close to signing him".
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