I’d agree, I’d say that was Levy trying to involve Martial in the deal. I wouldn’t have a problem with any figure north of £45M.
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I’d agree, I’d say that was Levy trying to involve Martial in the deal. I wouldn’t have a problem with any figure north of £45M.
Keep dreaming if you can get above 30m for him by selling abroad and this is assuming he wants to go abroad . Its not like too many top teams are interested anyways.
There was one poster explaining that he was really bad at Atletico. Only played like 12 games in 2 years. No managers of big team would touch him there.
Dealing with Levy is cumbersome to say the least... It might take a while to negotiate a good fee (if at all).
But apparently you're better without him now.
But apparently you're better without him now.
Who says that, I certainly don't, if I would be over the moon.
The thing the resident Spurs fans don’t seem to understand is the appeal playing for United has for players.
Look at Matic, desperate to join Utd due to the tradition, aura etc. Spurs are a big club domestically but don’t have anything like the appeal of a club like United.
Like it or not, that becomes a factor when players are nearing the ends of contracts.
Look at Matic, desperate to join Utd due to the tradition, aura etc. Spurs are a big club domestically but don’t have anything like the appeal of a club like United.
Like it or not, that becomes a factor when players are nearing the ends of contracts.
Supposedly Poch Laird out terms on his new contract that sales had to be done quicker so he can build his squad better.
A certain other Spurs fan...
I get that totally, your still an elite club I think most Spurs fans would agree. The thing is its simply not so easy just to bulldoze your way to signing a player like United used to be able to do.
Ha ok, well I will say while Toby isn't a key player for us, we are a stronger squad with Toby in it.
I haven't said that - don't put your words in my mouth.
Which is fair if it was a case of Eriksen or Kane. But Alderweireld who's future definitely seems to be away from Spurs is a completely different matter.
If they want Shaw they can have him for 50-70m then, or Kane. It's about the same as them wanting Martial or that kind of money for Toby. Perfect world we would trade them Shaw for Alderweireld, potentially a good deal for both.
Spurs have Davies and Rose, both good players - none of them are leaving this summer it seems. Why on earth would they want to buy Luke Shaw from us!? Makes no sense to me at all. Davies is 25, Rose is 27, great age on both of them. If they signed Shaw, he would be 3rd choice - so it's not something Spurs will entertain.
I've got a feeling he might go to Real Madrid.
Toby for £35M plus one of Jones or Smalling. Wages will work and they get cover if stuck! No way Spurs can afford the 80-100M for Martial, to warm their bench. It's all posturing, Toby's leaving, better to let him go it just sours up everything soon as he's back!
Lol it will be a cash deal.
Agreed in most due to revenue of other clubs now in premier league and the ruling around local born players had made that even more true of English lads. Imagine how much carrick would cost now from spurs. Fml
You see Fabinho going for 45m today carrick would be worth over 80m easy
Yeah spurs don’t want any of those lads just like we shouldn’t be still relying on them
I hate Smalling as a footballer it kills me how many times he passes the ball behind a man when there is space in front I reckon he kills 3 counter attacks per game wasy
You think any club is going to pay you £80m - £100m for Martial? You're in for a rude awakening if so.
You think anyone will pay you £75m for Toby? I wonder who’s the more deluded.
If Sandro signs a new contract, then I think this will have a knock on effect as we'll end up buying a different centre back and Danny Rose for left back. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see both Alderweireld and Rose coming to us in one summer.
I dont think Rose will be our 2nd choice.
I can see us running out of options/time and signing Rose out of the blue. Probably after the World Cup.
Ideally they won't and he simply won't leave, despite all the rumours (paper talk) Martial doesn't seem to have kicked up any sort of fuss about leaving. Martial getting linked away from United is like us always getting linked to Ronaldo coming back, it's fairly unrealistic imo.
Toby will pick where he goes. Spurs cannot shift him abroad if their is foreign interest unless that is the club he wants to go to.
Same as any player and particularly one with a less than lengthy contract situation.
See: everyone From Ronaldo to Sanchez to Coutinho and back.
Same as any player and particularly one with a less than lengthy contract situation.
See: everyone From Ronaldo to Sanchez to Coutinho and back.
Why would anyone value Shaw as anything more than £15m or so?!
The most appearances he's made in a season for United in the 4 full seasons he's been is 20, his contract is expiring next summer, and Jose constantly tells the press he's awful and, for the most part, does as much as he can to make him look like a player you wouldn't want in your team.
Fair enough he was decent at Southampton and could reach that ability and higher again - but so far he looks like another Bojan, or Giuseppe Rossi.
Think we should go for Benjamin Pavard instead. Best case scenario - we sign him to fill both RB and CB needs and Tottenham has no leverage over us signing Toby.
I guess because he is english, still young, and under the right manager could be the best LB in the league. He has more talent/potential than say Robertson and a lot of other LB in the league. Just because he doesn't have what it takes to succeed at a club like United doesn't mean he should be worth less money than the likes of Stones etc.
The marked is crazy, if you expect us to give you Martial for Alderweireld you might as well expect to give us Kane if you ask about Shaw.
Never seen him play, what's he like? You just reminded me of a clip I saw of him the other day breaking multiple with one pass. Pretty incredible.
Same goes for £70m for Toby.
Very astute defender. Doesn't really go to ground to make tackles, but has an eye for a pass and with great positioning. Can also head the ball into the net so ideal replacement for Fellaini without any of the drawbacks.
That's unfair on Rossi who if not for his injuries had a very good career when fit.
He's a significant upgrade on all our center backs. No brainer to go for him. Just don't expect him to have any loyalty, he didn't to Southampton and I don't expect him to do so with Spurs.
Tbf those are the two kinds of clubs most top players consider stepping stones. And they know it.
That's a fair statement. Just out of curiosity, what do you think Jose should then do with Lindelof and Bailly?
If we sign this guy, surely we have to start offloading some of our other CB's. We cannot have 6 on the books. Rojo, Lindelof and Bailly under must threat I imagine
I actually think we'll loan VNL and sell Jones. Didn't Rojo just sign a new contract?
Toby Alderweireld would be an instant upgrade on any central defender we currently have, that's for sure. What worries me is of course the potential fee Spurs may command for his services despite the circumstances regarding his contract. It's certainly an area we need to strengthen this summer and he ticks a lot of boxes, experience being one of them.
However we also need to upgrade in many other positions and personally I wouldn't mind us taking a look at Giorgio Chiellini who would be a great alternative and is out of contract this summer. Whether he would be interested or not is another matter but this would allow us to spread the cost better should the potential fee for Alderweireld be deemed as too much.
My point being there is alternative players potentially available but not many by any means and Alderweireld would be an excellent singing should it happen
However we also need to upgrade in many other positions and personally I wouldn't mind us taking a look at Giorgio Chiellini who would be a great alternative and is out of contract this summer. Whether he would be interested or not is another matter but this would allow us to spread the cost better should the potential fee for Alderweireld be deemed as too much.
My point being there is alternative players potentially available but not many by any means and Alderweireld would be an excellent singing should it happen
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