Toby Alderweireld
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I’d be fine with it but dealing with Spurs is asking for trouble and we need to improve other areas of the team more.
Agreed. The price is destined to be hyper inflated for a position that isn't a top a priority. That's why it makes more sense to get a cheaper alternative and spend more on a FB, CM, and attacker.
Especially since they are a few good CBs around.
Amazing that they demand around £70m for Alderweireld but for certain at some point this summer they will table an insultingly low offer for Anthony Martial. Can't stand Spurs.
I really can't see us paying £70m for a 29 yr old.
I think we will settle on around £50m or include a player exchange deal.
I think we will settle on around £50m or include a player exchange deal.
If we can get a quick deal like Sam Pilger is suggesting then that’d be cool but I find it hard to believe unless we’re spending a huge amount of our budget on him, which would be incredibly disappointing but not that surprising.
Let's do some thinking here:
£75m valued
29 years old
Next year can be bought for £22m
Is second choice CB
£50m paid for an arguably more important player for Walker
Seems about right...
£75m valued
29 years old
Next year can be bought for £22m
Is second choice CB
£50m paid for an arguably more important player for Walker
Seems about right...
Levy driving a hard deal is no surprise. Still think the reason why he hates us was the Berbatov deal and him accepting City’s higher offer on deadline day which was when the UAE stepped in and took the reins, then theres that story which may or may not be embellished where Sir Alex picked up Berba from the airport personally, coupled with Berba only wanting to join us, when Spurs were hoping he’d join City, then having to deal with us after an entire summer of speculation and probable talks.
Maybe this 75m = Cash + adds on. We know how the media twist and spin the amount of money we pay in each deal anyway.
Anyone who thinks he will actually cost 75m is deluded.
Yes Levy is a pain in the ass to negotiate with, but know Toby can go for 25m next summer, knows other targets are available, and can be told, "OK, well we'll just go activate Untiti's release clause"
40-50m would (eventually) get the deal done.
Yes Levy is a pain in the ass to negotiate with, but know Toby can go for 25m next summer, knows other targets are available, and can be told, "OK, well we'll just go activate Untiti's release clause"
40-50m would (eventually) get the deal done.
Exactly, Levy is a stubborn prick but 45M is better than 20M next season.
Especially since he's been frozen out of the team completely. Not like they seem all that keen to keep him in the first place.
Yup.
feck off Levy
The problem isn't whether or not we'll get him but the time and resources we're going to have to devote to waltzing around with Levy all summer before securing the deal on deadline day.
Exactly, we would be better off to go directly to the Ajax prodigy, Spurs would use the money and try to buy De Ligt instead to form a trio with Vertonghen and Sanchez.
Rather keep the guys we have than spend 75m, Levy must be mad.
50m is the max imo.
50m is the max imo.
Surely we won't be paying £50m+ for him if it's true that we are interested. We should have just gone for Van Dijk when he was available.
Would be more overpaying, what do our scouts actually do?
Also for the Alderweireld experts, is he weak in the air? Statistically doesn't win much compared to other centre backs.
Would be more overpaying, what do our scouts actually do?
Also for the Alderweireld experts, is he weak in the air? Statistically doesn't win much compared to other centre backs.
Gotta love Daniel Levy, he always squeezes every penny. Toby ain't nowhere near that price.
Yes. He'd likely be paired with Smalling though, who is fairly good in that regard.
I don't blame him for squeezing potential suitors. He knows that Spurs won't be a serious club if they easily lose their top talent each summer.
Why are we falling for this media trick again? That figure is without question including wages . They just love bumping the sum for clicks
Don’t think it’ll be 75 mil but if true wouldn’t that take our spending on CB’s up to around 150 mil. That’s a lot of money when hopefully we’ll add a RB. Probably a LB as well.
I would think more realistically that will come down to somewhere between 50-60 mil and wouldn’t be surprised if there is some sort of deal where Shaw or Martial go there, which would be kinda worrying if they then add DeLigt to the team they have already. He looked great in the Europa against us.
I would think more realistically that will come down to somewhere between 50-60 mil and wouldn’t be surprised if there is some sort of deal where Shaw or Martial go there, which would be kinda worrying if they then add DeLigt to the team they have already. He looked great in the Europa against us.
Lol won’t end up being anywhere near 75M. Will be around the 50 Mark which Levy and Tottenham will be extremely pleased with.
Will just be fun when they ask for Martial later in the summer. Quote them 160M.
Will just be fun when they ask for Martial later in the summer. Quote them 160M.
I get that and he's doing the best for his club. He's mental if he thinks he can get £75 for him though. Spurs are not in a position of strength on this transfer. He's not signing a new contract, he'll be leaving to a new club this summer.
I doubt they're interested in Shaw. Will be Martial or bust from them and if it is true that Levy really is asking for this much, he's probably hoping to negotiate it to some sort of swap deal. Can't see us going for it and deal should be done for £40M at the most. Anything more than that would be a rip off.
Really do hope we sign him.
That's not actually true. For example, he started in our last league game at home to Leicester, came on as sub in the previous league game (home to Newcastle) and started in the league game prior to that.
Rose is also supposedly set to leave this summer so maybe Shaw would be of intrest. Poch has worked with him before and probably got the best out of him.
I agree on your price £40mil is probably a better representation of his worth but “it’s Totenham lads” so i’ll stick to the 50-60mil. Who really knows what will happen, we’ve been here many a time before and nothing has materialised so kind of a believe it when I see it scenario.
On the player I quite like him always liked what I saw of him I’m just not sure it’s really a priority position for us at the moment and would rather address the fullback positions than CB. Maybe we’ll cover them all.
It's worded as Tottenham asking, not the package of the deal or anything. Hope we play along but never strike the deal leading Tottenham on a goose chase.
We will get him for 40m, 45m max. He is 30 ffs.
Just adding my view on Smalling to your post, not meant to be a rebutal to your point.
Smalling is terrible at focusing on his man and not falling behind (ending up losing his man and trying to get back control by using his arms) during free-kicks & corners though.
By all means he's good when he challenges the striker for a ball higher up on the pitch as he's a beast physically and is either likely to win or likely to make a recovery with his speed, so he'd be a great partner in normal play.
That's another problem. For all we know he could perform at an adequate level for a year or two then fall off a cliff. Complete waste of money imo.
Wouldn't wanna look for another replacement in 2 years when he's 35.
40m or we go elsewhere. He's 32 ffs.
Offer them 40m or go pay 70m for Koulibaly.
I can't disagree too much. We're a complete mess at set pieces and I'm not sure whether that's primarily due to personnel or defensive organisation (most likely a mixture of both). As you say, Alderweireld and Smalling would probably compensate for each others weaknesses fairly well in open play, though.
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