Toby Alderweireld

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Perhaps, but then Levy might say in reply: "Fine, in that case you'll play in the reserves all season ... and there you can score all the own goals you like and massively damage your professional reputation in the process".

It's not wise to under-estimate Levy's potential willingness to play hardball in these situations. His resolve has been stiffened by the Berbatov saga.

I'm not saying that any of this is necessarily going to happen. Indeed, I'm not even entirely convinced that Alderweireld won't end up signing the new contract with Spurs. It's all just speculation as to possibilities.

Like hell he will say that....Spurs need to money to pay for the stadium and the fact they can barely pay the going rate in wages he is unlikely to waste/de value a player.
 
True, but then in the one intervening season (a) Spurs get to have Alderweireld in the squad; and (b) Alderweireld loses out on the massive wage hike for that year that he would have gained if he'd signed the new contract.

I'm just saying that not all the bargaining chips are with Alderweireld.
Obviously not, he's not available for free transfer.

But as we've seen over the years, it has nothing to do with Spurs, but if the player wants to move, it's ultimately highly unlikely that they fail to move.

I just don't think Levy makes that much difference to the whole situation.
 
Who says he wouldn't play every week? If Spurs revert to a back 3 then he certainly would. And after all, why would Spurs even offer him a massive new contract if they don't intend to play him a lot if he signs?

As for Rose, again who says he won't play every week? It's all down to the healthy competition between him and Davies for the LB slot.
The recent past? Who says Spurs are reverting to a back 3?

Rose not starting most games has nothing to do with what happened last summer?
 
Like hell he will say that....Spurs need to money to pay for the stadium and the fact they can barely pay the going rate in wages he is unlikely to waste/de value a player.

We don't. The stadium is fully funded already to completion.
 
Different kettle of fish. If Spurs ideally want to play with 3 at the back, then we need Alderweireld for that. Whereas with Walker we already had Trippier as an able replacement, a player who had (and has) improved a lot under Poch.
Trippier isn’t that able. Nowhere near it in fact. Walker leaving weakened Spurs in their starting position and in their back up.
 
The recent past? Who says Spurs are reverting to a back 3?

Rose not starting most games has nothing to do with what happened last summer?

Who says that Pochettino ideally doesn't want to? After all, when Alderweireld was fully fit we played many games with a back 3: Sanchez - Alderweireld - Vertonghen.

With Rose, perhaps it did, but if he now recommits to the club - as it seems he has - then all bets are off as whether or not he regains his primacy in LB slot.
 
Trippier isn’t that able. Nowhere near it in fact. Walker leaving weakened Spurs in their starting position and in their back up.

Well, he got more assists for Spurs last season than did Walker for City, despite the latter playing in a team that scored bucket-loads of goals and despite his playing many,many more minutes than Trippier.

Walker is the better RB, but the difference is not all that huge.
 
Who says that Pochettino ideally doesn't want to? After all, when Alderweireld was fully fit we played many games with a back 3: Sanchez - Alderweireld - Vertonghen.

With Rose, perhaps it did, but if he now recommits to the club - as it seems he has - then all bets are off as whether or not he regains his primacy in LB slot.
Nobody that I know. Though his team selections at the end of the season suggest not. Was he not fit at the end of the season? Why wasn’t he playing 3 at the back then?
 
Well, he got more assists for Spurs last season than did Walker for City, despite the latter playing in a team that scored bucket-loads of goals and despite his playing many,many more minutes than Trippier.

Walker is the better RB, but the difference is not all that huge.
That’s super but it doesn’t mean your team hasn’t been weakened. A worse player replaced Walker and a new right back was bought that wasn’t as good as his understudy.
 
Well, if Levy says to Toby: "These clubs - X, Y and X - outside the Prem are offering more in wages than we will, so take either take your pick or sign a new contract, because we won't sell to a Prem rival" ... then what do you think the player is going to do?

I'm not saying this is what Levy will do, but he might well.

If a player wants to move to a club he will.
 
What do you mean here?

I thought you had £400 million in bank loans to pay off no?

Yes, of course there is/will be debt to pay off.

What I mean is that the funds (including borrowed money) for completing the stadium are already in our bank account, so construction to completion is financially guaranteed and we obviously were never relying on player-sales for such funding.

Nor will we need to sell players to fund debt repayment/servicing post-construction .. not when our income will soon be approaching the £400m mark annually. In fact, I expect a big surge in net-spend on transfers this summer.
 
Yes, of course there is/will be debt to pay off.

What I mean is that the funds (including borrowed money) for completing the stadium are already in our bank account, so construction to completion is financially guaranteed and we obviously were never relying on player-sales for such funding.

Nor will we need to sell players to fund debt repayment/servicing post-construction .. not when our income will soon be approaching the £400m mark annually. In fact, I expect a big surge in net-spend on transfers this summer.

Isn’t it going to cost almost three times the original estimate and is already behind schedule?

Regardless it seems a very expensive project and lots of the finance is fairly short-term.
 
Isn’t it going to cost almost three times the original estimate and is already behind schedule?

Regardless it seems a very expensive project and lots of the finance is fairly short-term.

The original estimate was for a different design and was dated 7 years ago. The cost will not be "almost three times" that earlier estimate and it's only behind schedule by a matter of weeks (from over the whole period), meaning that our first few games will be played away from home, with our first home game likely to be mid-September, just after the international break.
 
Well, he got more assists for Spurs last season than did Walker for City, despite the latter playing in a team that scored bucket-loads of goals and despite his playing many,many more minutes than Trippier.

Walker is the better RB, but the difference is not all that huge.

It's huge. Having few assists more doesn't hide that.
 
Walker is a much better fullback than Trippier - Spurs went from having by far the best set of fullbacks in the league (Walker + Rose) to average (Trippier / Aurier + Davies) with the sale of Walker and the long term injury to Rose. It substantially impacted the quality of our attack, and the defensive stability of the back 4 as well.

Along with CM, FB is the position that Spurs need to find an upgrade in the most.
 
Walker is a much better fullback than Trippier - Spurs went from having by far the best set of fullbacks in the league (Walker + Rose) to average (Trippier / Aurier + Davies) with the sale of Walker and the long term injury to Rose. It substantially impacted the quality of our attack, and the defensive stability of the back 4 as well.

Along with CM, FB is the position that Spurs need to find an upgrade in the most.

Agree with this sadly. And although I rate Trippier in teams when we dominate possession over Walker because he is a better passer and crosser of the ball we still desperately miss the energy levels of Walker and Rose.

A CM is prio nr 1 imo, either a creative midfielder or a box to box and move Eriksen back to a midfield 3 and play 4-3-3. A marquee forward signing would be fantastic as well, another main focal point who can create a goal out of nothing (this is hard to get though, and although I think nothing of the Bale/Martial rumors will materialize I think they would be great).
 
Well, he got more assists for Spurs last season than did Walker for City, despite the latter playing in a team that scored bucket-loads of goals and despite his playing many,many more minutes than Trippier.

Walker is the better RB, but the difference is not all that huge.

The difference is huge, can’t hide behind statistics here - the quality can easily be seen with your own eyes. Trippier is first and foremost a good crosser, a bit like Gary Neville in that regard but not as good overall. Walker is very quick and gives so many options when attacking, often by just offering width so that the other team has to open spaces either on the left or right side.

You have moved down the table, scored less goals and let in more at the back. The lack of Alderweireld for a full season and Walker, as well as Rose, is very apparant for everyone to see - except you maybe. That’s no surprise though
 
The difference is huge, can’t hide behind statistics here - the quality can easily be seen with your own eyes. Trippier is first and foremost a good crosser, a bit like Gary Neville in that regard but not as good overall. Walker is very quick and gives so many options when attacking, often by just offering width so that the other team has to open spaces either on the left or right side.

You have moved down the table, scored less goals and let in more at the back. The lack of Alderweireld for a full season and Walker, as well as Rose, is very apparant for everyone to see - except you maybe. That’s no surprise though

We have also played away from our home ground for the entire season, but don't let that stop you from conveniently blaming our single position drop in the league table on the loss of Walker, Alderweireld's injury etc.

The truth is that Spurs were reasonably content to let Walker go for £50m, knowing that we had Trippier.
 
We have also played away from our home ground for the entire season, but don't let that stop you from conveniently blaming our single position drop in the league table on the loss of Walker, Alderweireld's injury etc.

The truth is that Spurs were reasonably content to let Walker go for £50m, knowing that we had Trippier.

And wanted to buy upgrade in Aurier which didn't work out as expected.
 
CB Line up next season: Bailly, Alderweireld, Lindelof, Rojo, Tuanzebe.

- Smalling & Jones out.

I am not Rojo's biggest fan but he has renewed recently whilst Small/Jones contract runs out next year. I rather ship the pair out.
 
We have also played away from our home ground for the entire season, but don't let that stop you from conveniently blaming our single position drop in the league table on the loss of Walker, Alderweireld's injury etc.

The truth is that Spurs were reasonably content to let Walker go for £50m, knowing that we had Trippier.

Wembley was your home ground this season, how long are you going to use this pathetic excuse? Your fans are there in numbers when they bother to show up and the grass is green, what’s the bloody difference after 19 games and cup games plus the Champions League-games last season? Is next year also the same as playing away from home? If not, what the hell is the difference between Wembley and the new one? Still your fecking logo on the door and you play there every other week unlike all the teams you meet. Wembley is familiar too your players after week 1, it’s not an excuse at all. City got Walker, Ederson, Mendy, Laporte, Silva and so forth, it’s not like they were playing at the Etihad last season.

If you do well next year, then you will say it’s home - if you do just alright you will say it’s not your home (yet) - you’ll pick your obvious excuse as you always do. That’s the problem with you and that’s why you are never taken seriously, you can only see what suits you.

You’re content? That’s great - and also the biggest reason why Tottenham will never be a serious contender for anything. You could sell Kane tomorrow, replace him with Carlton Cole and still come up with some meta crap.
 
Anyone got a break down of his injuries at spurs? Curious given how much i hear the word injury next to his name. Wasnt of the opinion he was injury prone
 
And wanted to buy upgrade in Aurier which didn't work out as expected.

Not necessarily as an upgrade, but certainly as competition/cover for Trippier. It's been the former's first season in the Prem and at Spurs ... and that without the benefit of pre-season training and fitness coaching under Poch.

Assuming that he stays with us, I'd expect to see an improvement this time around, as mostly happens with players in the 2nd season under Poch.
 
Wembley was your home ground this season, how long are you going to use this pathetic excuse? Your fans are there in numbers when they bother to show up and the grass is green, what’s the bloody difference after 19 games and cup games plus the Champions League-games last season? Is next year also the same as playing away from home? If not, what the hell is the difference between Wembley and the new one? Still your fecking logo on the door and you play there every other week unlike all the teams you meet. Wembley is familiar too your players after week 1, it’s not an excuse at all. City got Walker, Ederson, Mendy, Laporte, Silva and so forth, it’s not like they were playing at the Etihad last season.

If you do well next year, then you will say it’s home - if you do just alright you will say it’s not your home (yet) - you’ll pick your obvious excuse as you always do. That’s the problem with you and that’s why you are never taken seriously, you can only see what suits you.

You’re content? That’s great - and also the biggest reason why Tottenham will never be a serious contender for anything. You could sell Kane tomorrow, replace him with Carlton Cole and still come up with some meta crap.

So if United played all next season away from Old Trafford, playing all their 'home' games in whatever other stadium you care to choose, you'd expect that to have zero negative impact on the team's performance would you? Don't talk such bollocks.

The difference between Wembley and our new stadium? Where shall I start? Permanent home rather than temporary base. Vastly superior acoustics and atmosphere. Biggest single stand in the UK. Easier for most Spurs fans to travel to. Built partly on the site of our old stadium and incorporating many symbolic elements of that old stadium - again all contributing to the sense of home and atmosphere.
 
Would be a good signing but we need to be pouring money into our fullback situation first.
 
He can be had for 25m in a years time, to get more than double that this window should be good enough for Spurs
 
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