Think he would rather play the CL than Europa
Toby Alderweireld
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Can he play upfront?
Oh very true, completely slipped my mind that Chelsea finished 5th
It's an opinion dude, and an opinion 99% of United fans will agree with. If you want to stick with Jones, then you stick with it. That's your choice. We have been extremely lucky conceding as little as we have this season, but that's because of De Gea.
I bet he can head a ball better than Pogba, though.
We should play him in midfield, then.
No, they wont because they arent stupid enough to think that you can categorically state that if you had 1 player instead of another then something definitely wouldnt have happened.
I could say that if we had 95% of the other CBs (probably anyone other than VDV) in the league today instead of Smalling at CB we'd have lost 2 or 3 nil. But guess what, I have no idea if thats the case. Just like you have no idea what would have happened with Bailly. But its especially unbelievable when talking about an error prone CB like Bailly has been this season. He's just as likely to cock it up as the guy who did today.
Agreed. Bailly would have kept up there and I reckon Hazard would have held on to the ball and waited for support, like he did consistently in other parts of the game when there were defenders that kept up with him. The challenge Jones made was one that Alderweireld wouldn't have committed to and that tackle effectively cost us the game and a trophy.
I dont think we can complain about Jones' speed in that situation, but he reacted half a second later than Hazard. Then he tried to recocer the situation just like he always does: with a tackle.
Bailly was fooled in similar way against Sevilla.
I wonder if he'll be another player that looks ok until he puts a Utd shirt on.....
Why is everyone so confident he'll end up at OT?
I'm not. Just a comment and tbh not sure we going to sign him without selling a CB and don't see that happening....
I'd be very surprised if we don't sign a CB
Someone will have to be sold and can't see it....
It was poor positioning by Jones for Hazard to get the ball in the first place as well. He shouldn't have backed away like that. Either way, this is not the thread to discuss this in more detail. I'm a big fan of Jones, but regardless of the mistake made today, we should still be targeting a top tier CB this summer.
You can't see Jose being fed up with the options he has at the back and selling one of them?
We've got too many CB's that are at a similar level (Smalling, Jones, Rojo and to a lesser extent Lindelof). I'd happily sell Smalling, if we were to get Alderweireld.
I'd happily have him here just most of the time you get a sense of who's coming or going, and I don't see it. The only people who will be sold are those who want to leave.
Christ. You’d prefer to pair Toby with Bailly, Rojo or Jones? Rather than the best defender currently on United ms books?
You're right, Smalling is in very good form at the moment. But, he's a painfully average on the ball. Plus, in terms of age it makes sense to sell him over any of our other CB's. He'll be 29 later this year and his game is heavily reliant on pace, so I can't see him keeping his level well into his 30's.
Well, tbh as a pure CB I'd personally sell Rojo over Smalling. Smalling is the better defender and is much better in the air (both offensively and defensively). However Rojo, who's only a few months younger, can also cover at LB. We'd also likely command a larger fee for Smalling than Rojo, due to the price of British players in England.
And yes, I'd partner Toby with Bailly.
As opposed to Chelsea finishing 5th and United finishing 2nd.
If u wanna get into that route then the game would've been completely different, Bailly could've made different passes and positions throughout the game and there would be a completely different outcome.
But how many times do I have to say it is an opinion, I believe Bailly would've done better (as a lot of United fans think as well - based on Social Media and even on these forums...). And how many times have I had to say Smalling had nothing to do with Jones' mistake. I'm stating throughout the season he has made mistakes. Smalling was solid today, and has been at times throughout the season, but like Jones makes too many mistakes. How many times do I have to reiterate myself?
I don’t think you have to worry about us selling a player to Chelsea lol. While I don’t want us to I think there is more of a chance of him ending up at United than that lot down the road, I’d like to think Martial could be the key if Toby ends up with you next season.
No chance, we replace Martial with right-wingers and buy off Toby from you. I'd like for us to have a loan with an option to buy Harry Kane for £150m, deal?
Lol do you think Martial will be with you next season? What has Kane got to do with it?
Only if you want Martial, we'll have to get Harry Kane for £150m with a loan option to buy outright after the season and allow martial to come to you. and get toby from you.
Are you high? I’m what world do we loan you Kane?
The same one we give you Martial in.
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That's it. No Martial for you.
I don't want to strengthen Spurs.
He seems to want out, he has went from France’s big prospect to missing out on the WC. I dunno if it will happen or not but I’m pretty sure if your asking about Toby, Levy is asking about Martial.
I'm sure Levy will ask after Martial, he did last summer to no avail. The problem though is so will a number of other clubs ask which might be the sticking point.
But you could say the same for Toby, United will not be the only club after him. How much would you think United would offer for him considering we will get £25M for him next season. I think Martial was definitely more popular last summer than this summer.
Think the competition for Alderweireld will be less than for Martial, wages won't be a sticking point for United either compared to whoever is the competition.
I suspect United would have to offer £40m, not a whole lot of clubs would be willing to fork that amount for a 29 year old centre half.
I’m not dissagreeing with you really, I think considering it’s United and our bald leader the fee will be between £40-50M, we don’t have to sell. I’d like us to get Martial though, will be an interesting short transfer window.
I can't see Spurs keeping a player who earns around £75k a week and isn't playing but yeah the fee will probably be around £40m+. I'm sure you would like Martial being involved in the deal but I suspect given the likely clubs attracted to him, the fee will be a lot higher and I'm also not certain Martial will leave this summer.
We will meet again in September
. You will have a very good defender if you get him. He isn’t the injury prone player most make him out to be on here but I don’t think really he would improve where you would have ended up league wise.I reckon it will be maguire, Mourinho like his English players.
Get him, ship Jones out.
Seriously?
I can't understand how anybody could have watched all the games this season and think that Bailly has been solid. He has a huge amount of potential and I'm sure he'll be given the opportunity next season to claim the first choice spot, but we aren't talking about potential here. We're talking about actual performances, and he's been all over the place all season. A great game here and there, but shocking in the next match. Both Smalling and Jones have been comfortably better and more consistent than him THIS season.
How has Phil Jones lasted 7 years at United. He is absolutely brutal. Injured 2/3rds of the time & any time he actually does play he just looks like he is constantly scrambling for the ball.
Never does anything great, he needs to be sold. Everton level at best. Get Toby in who is a world classs CB & guaranteed starter every game. Our 2 cb are chopped & changed too much for me.
Never does anything great, he needs to be sold. Everton level at best. Get Toby in who is a world classs CB & guaranteed starter every game. Our 2 cb are chopped & changed too much for me.
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