Tiemoué Bakayoko | Chelsea player... finally

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Looked like the kind of midfielder who is good at recovering his own mistakes from what I saw against City and Juve

Still he has all the physical attributes and at 22yo the right manager could make him an effective player by getting him to concentrate on doing the simple things well. Kind of like Fellaini but more mobile
 
prateik said:
I havent seen enough of him or Fabinho.. but if he isnt all that, then why are Chelsea not in for Fabinho? Too expensive?
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I think they don't need him with Kante there. Bakayoko is more box to box, physical, but as I said, not the smartest. He gets caught out of position a lot, his skills on the ball are rather limited and whenever I watched him, he made just too many mistakes for a midfielder. He can be a beast though and add drive - as I said, rather physical attributes
 
Escobar said:
I think they don't need him with Kante there. Bakayoko is more box to box, physical, but as I said, not the smartest. He gets caught out of position a lot, his skills on the ball are rather limited and whenever I watched him, he made just too many mistakes for a midfielder. He can be a beast though and add drive - as I said, rather physical attributes
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If we were looking at Nainggolan and couldn't get him, Bakayoko seems to fit the bill. I think Jose wants two b2b midfielders who'd take turns advancing and dropping deeper alongside Pobga.
 
To be honest, I haven't seen much of him but id rather take a gamble with him then pay £40m for Matic. No thanks.
 
BigCaine said:
Both to me look like poor teams to me in terms of balance, first team has a no 1o and a no 9 both of whom are well known for not putting in the defensive shift, no dm, teams will cut through our mf like a piece of cake add to that having a no 10 kind of negates what pogba brings to the table what was the logic of spending 90 mn on a guy and not asetting up to best suit him.

Second one again has no real dm, hererra is decent but his strength is running all over the place harassing players having him sit back really reduces his impact on the field, also playing pogba as no 10 is again a waste of space as we have seen with juve he isn't ozil or james, his best attribute is running with the ball if he is already in the position which he wants to be without having the ball he isn't nearly as good.
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Well Bakayoko is a DM

Also it sounds like you are contradicting yourself as you call that first team unbalanced because it has James on the 10 and Pogba playing deeper and you call the second one unbalanced for the exact opposite reason.

And Herrera does like to run around but that doesn't mean he can't play as DM, his best game of the season was versus Chelsea where he played as a DM covering up for Hazard. And Kante for example is also a player that runs around and covers all spaces and he is the best DM in the league. So makes 0 sense to me what you say there. Beside if he would be played in a MF 3, it would be Bakayoko playing deeper as DM and Herrera given freedom to move more up top in assistance of Pogba not the other way around. Again Bakayoko is a DM.
 
He has been underwhelming for the most part of his career at Monaco but was very good between August and mid January after that he was average but also slightly injured. IMO, there is no way to tell if he is actually good or just had a six months purple patch.
 
The red panther said:
Well Bakayoko is a DM

Also it sounds like you are contradicting yourself as you call that first team unbalanced because it has James on the 10 and Pogba playing deeper and you call the second one unbalanced for the exact opposite reason.

And Herrera does like to run around but that doesn't mean he can't play as DM, his best game of the season was versus Chelsea where he played as a DM covering up for Hazard. And Kante for example is also a player that runs around and covers all spaces and he is the best DM in the league. So makes 0 sense to me what you say there. Beside if he would be played in a MF 3, it would be Bakayoko playing deeper as DM and Herrera given freedom to move more up top in assistance of Pogba not the other way around. Again Bakayoko is a DM.
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Not at Monaco or Rennes and not for France.
 
The red panther said:
Well Bakayoko is a DM

Also it sounds like you are contradicting yourself as you call that first team unbalanced because it has James on the 10 and Pogba playing deeper and you call the second one unbalanced for the exact opposite reason.

And Herrera does like to run around but that doesn't mean he can't play as DM, his best game of the season was versus Chelsea where he played as a DM covering up for Hazard. And Kante for example is also a player that runs around and covers all spaces and he is the best DM in the league. So makes 0 sense to me what you say there. Beside if he would be played in a MF 3, it would be Bakayoko playing deeper as DM and Herrera given freedom to move more up top in assistance of Pogba not the other way around. Again Bakayoko is a DM.
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From what little i have watched of him, i saw him more as a b2b mf. Also kante isn't a dm, i dont think there is an actual term that accurately describes his role, it is matic who sits deep for chelsea and i mistook the 3 man mf for pogba playing 10 so my comment on the second one. As pogba is an am but not a good 10.
 
BigCaine said:
From what little i have watched of him, i saw him more as a b2b mf. Also kante isn't a dm, i dont think there is an actual term that accurately describes his role, it is matic who sits deep for chelsea and i mistook the 3 man mf for pogba playing 10 so my comment on the second one. As pogba is an am but not a good 10.
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I agree with that. That is the reason I want us to sign James and play him as a 10 behind Lukaku.

But I think a Bakayoko-Pogba midfield behind James certainly isn't unbalanced. I think Bakayoko can perfectly play the role of a DM, saw some post off him having the most tackles and interceptions in the CL so he can certainly play the role.
 
According to Daily Star.... and Express...
 
This is a nothing story. Reeks of sour grapes following Chelsea losing out on Lukaku. I'd much prefer Fabinho if we had to pick a Monaco player.
 

Rough translation via google translate "I am told in the headset that Bakayoko has medical concerns."
 
Don't want us to sign Bakayoko, but without wanting to reignite the whole 'racial profiling' debate from the Lukaku thread - I do wonder if it isn't just a lazy comparison. Bakayoko is very comfortable on the ball in my opinion, he is a similar player to Yaya. He can dribble well centrally and goes on good runs with the ball.

This generalisation that he's limited on the ball and just physical seems to have stuck, probably by the same people who go on to say they have hardly seen him in their next post.
 
He liked this tweet:

The bing translation is: Bakayoko made please, Chelsea turned it down, United hesitated, he made the calls to walk everywhere, itself contacted liverpool also

I believe it's saying something like, Bakayoko is sad, Chelsea refused him, United have hesitated, he's essentially trying to whore himself out somewhere.
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Rozay said:
Don't want us to sign Bakayoko, but without wanting to reignite the whole 'racial profiling' debate from the Lukaku thread - I do wonder if it isn't just a lazy comparison. Bakayoko is very comfortable on the ball in my opinion, he is a similar player to Yaya. He can dribble well centrally and goes on good runs with the ball.

This generalisation that he's limited on the ball and just physical seems to have stuck, probably by the same people who go on to say they have hardly seen him in their next post.
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If your intention is to insult Yaya Touré, you nailed it.:D
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
If we were looking at Nainggolan and couldn't get him, Bakayoko seems to fit the bill. I think Jose wants two b2b midfielders who'd take turns advancing and dropping deeper alongside Pobga.
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Agree that Mou wants a B2B, explains why he was so upset when we didn't get Renato Sanches. I'd be surprised if we weren't in for Bakayoko and at least another B2B
 
DWelbz19 said:
He liked this tweet:

The bing translation is: Bakayoko made please, Chelsea turned it down, United hesitated, he made the calls to walk everywhere, itself contacted liverpool also

I believe it's saying something like, Bakayoko is sad, Chelsea refused him, United have hesitated, he's essentially trying to whore himself out somewhere.
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What a tweet to like :lol: he's got less than 50 followers.
 
DWelbz19 said:
He liked this tweet:

The bing translation is: Bakayoko made please, Chelsea turned it down, United hesitated, he made the calls to walk everywhere, itself contacted liverpool also

I believe it's saying something like, Bakayoko is sad, Chelsea refused him, United have hesitated, he's essentially trying to whore himself out somewhere.
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Not sad but pitiful.

On an other note, it was said early May that Chelsea were confused by his entourage, they basically faced to totally different set of people at the negotiation table.
 
JPRouve said:
Not sad but pitiful.

On an other note, it was said early May that Chelsea were confused by his entourage, they basically faced to totally different set of people at the negotiation table.
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Ah, cheers. Seems strange of him to like it. Ironically doing so? As I assume the original tweeter is a Monaco fan who is a bit bitter at Bakayoko for wanting the move. Bakayoko isn't tagged in the post or anything, so it seems strange if it's anything other than intentional.
 
JPRouve said:
If your intention is to insult Yaya Touré, you nailed it.:D
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Of course not as good! He might be as good as Yaya was at Monaco at 22 though, although even then, probably not!
 
Read the headline from the daily shite this morning which pretty much says he's signing.
I've only one thing to say to that is.
 
Rozay said:
Of course not as good! He might be as good as Yaya was at Monaco at 22 though, although even then, probably not!
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No, Bakayoko is like Khedira. Yaya Touré was brilliant with Monaco and was able to do absolutely everything at a high level.
 
I have a theory that when players are in demand, they get caught up in it and often like to sit back and soak up the interest, milking it for all its worth. I think they get a kick out of it and I feel like a part of them might like when it's a drawn out process so they can enjoy every minute of it. May or may not be the case with Bakayoko but I'm sure he's in demand and it's got to be a serious confidence boost.
 
DWelbz19 said:
He liked this tweet:

The bing translation is: Bakayoko made please, Chelsea turned it down, United hesitated, he made the calls to walk everywhere, itself contacted liverpool also

I believe it's saying something like, Bakayoko is sad, Chelsea refused him, United have hesitated, he's essentially trying to whore himself out somewhere.
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A Bakayoko is not just for Christmas. :(
 
DWelbz19 said:
Ah, cheers. Seems strange of him to like it. Ironically doing so? As I assume the original tweeter is a Monaco fan who is a bit bitter at Bakayoko for wanting the move. Bakayoko isn't tagged in the post or anything, so it seems strange if it's anything other than intentional.
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Looking at the account, he does read like bitter and generally negative.
 
Would prefer him to Matic or Dier at least. Think Jose could mould him into a quality player. Still prefer Fabinho though obv
 
Rozay said:
Don't want us to sign Bakayoko, but without wanting to reignite the whole 'racial profiling' debate from the Lukaku thread - I do wonder if it isn't just a lazy comparison. Bakayoko is very comfortable on the ball in my opinion, he is a similar player to Yaya. He can dribble well centrally and goes on good runs with the ball.

This generalisation that he's limited on the ball and just physical seems to have stuck, probably by the same people who go on to say they have hardly seen him in their next post.
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Exactly, in February Bakayoko had had more dribbles than Fabinho (67 vs 34) and was behind only two central midfielders in the whole league (so yes, above the Verrattis and co). He was making far less tackles than the Brazilian though (48 vs 74, Fabinho was 2nd midfielder in the whole league at the time and Bakayoko 15th) but earning more balls (160 vs 150, being 3rd midfielder.

Fabinho makes a lot of passes and remain quite defensive while Bakayoko likes to go forward with the ball and dribble. Whatever the player, those two whould be great signings for most teams, they're just slighty different footballers but far from being just defensive rocks.
 
JPRouve said:
Not at Monaco or Rennes and not for France.
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I was hoping he was a DM, just one with the capacity to play b2b (an Essien type) when played alongside another DM, such as Fabinho. If he isn't, then i'm uncertain why we would be interested. We surely need a DM or a DLP to cover Carrick, and in my view, have needed one for nearly a decade.

Why won't any of our managers just feckin buy one, ffs? :confused::)
 
apotheosis said:
I was hoping he was a DM, just one with the capacity to play b2b (an Essien type) when played alongside another DM, such as Fabinho. If he isn't, then i'm uncertain why we would be interested. We surely need a DM or a DLP to cover Carrick, and in my view, have needed one for nearly a decade.

Why won't any of our managers just feckin buy one, ffs? :confused::)
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He is a box to box who rarely plays as a DM. Bakayoko is good on the ball, he is good at linking the defense and the attack because he is a sure passer and can drive with the ball. On the defensive side, he can close down on the opponents very quickly and with his long legs it's difficult to avoid him but he will often switch off or don't put the necessary intensity and he is positionnally suspect.

If he can play regularly like he did during the first part of the season then his future club will have a very good footballer but a DM behind him will be advised until he fixes his defensive game. IMO, at the moment a midfield three would be ideal for him.
 
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