Thomas Müller

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It largely depends on the player. If he tries to force a move the fee will be significantly less. As you listed he has given some good years at Bayern, so if he's unhappy or wants a new challenge say next year it may very well happen for not the big fees that are mentioned.

He has won it all and has some good year in front of him. At the start of next year and season he'll be 27 and would probably want to see out his later years with a big contract and he's on what? 5m EUR per season? United can at least double that.

It was not about the player. It just was about the look of the club onto it and the question where unsellable stops or why Bayern says he is unsellable - and tried to put it into perspective.

If Müller is tempted at all we do not even know but that is not important here.

What I just wanted to try was to show that no other club could price away a similar player of United either - you have in your history a tradition to value your homegrown players (if they have the quality).
 
it is all about the player. If Müller wants to leave he´d get his move sooner or later. There is no number big enough to tempt bayern, if he doesn´t want to leave. At the moment he doesnt want to leave.. That´s it.
 
If Müller is tempted at all we do not even know but that is not important here.
why not important? it can change significantly if he wants to leave? I believe he does not want to leave now but if he wishes to, then
 
it is all about the player. If Müller wants to leave he´d get his move sooner or later. There is no number big enough to tempt bayern, if he doesn´t want to leave. At the moment he doesnt want to leave.. That´s it.

This. In the same way we would never have sold Ronaldo unless he wanted to go.

I think Van Gaal is thinking long term here also. It's ok he doesn't want to go but continuing bidding for him in the face of such a firm no will spell it out how badly we want him. He may not change his mind now but if there are more issues with Guardiola he will be thinking about the appreciation shown by Van Gaal and it could become an option for him.
 
it is all about the player. If Müller wants to leave he´d get his move sooner or later. There is no number big enough to tempt bayern, if he doesn´t want to leave. At the moment he doesnt want to leave.. That´s it.
Rather later than sooner though. We can be stubborn bastards even if the player wants to leave, just look at Ballack's and Ribery's transfer drama when Real tried to sign them. Müller's still way too young to leave us, he won't get the 'we understand your wish and will let you leave' treatment Schweini got. And Müller's more important to the club than Ballack or Ribery ever were. Müller has a contract until 2019, that's a long long time from now. Even if he never extends and other clubs throw money around, he won't leave before 2018. Maybe 2017 if he causes real trouble at the club, but I can't see him ever doing that.

Not that it matters anyway. Like you say, he doesn't want to leave and I can't see that changing throughout his peak years. Not the slightest bit worried about him.
 
Rather later than sooner though. We can be stubborn bastards even if the player wants to leave, just look at Ballack's and Ribery's transfer drama when Real tried to sign them. Müller's still way too young to leave us, he won't get the 'we understand your wish and will let you leave' treatment Schweini got. And Müller's more important to the club than Ballack or Ribery ever were. Müller has a contract until 2019, that's a long long time from now. Even if he never extends and other clubs throw money around, he won't leave before 2018. Maybe 2017 if he causes real trouble at the club, but I can't see him ever doing that.

Not that it matters anyway. Like you say, he doesn't want to leave and I can't see that changing throughout his peak years. Not the slightest bit worried about him.

Come on Balu, let's have some of that Müller, ey?
I'll even thrown in a scouser with an offensive first touch and a hair transplant on top if you'd like?
 
Come on Balu, let's have some of that Müller, ey?
I'll even thrown in a scouser with an offensive first touch and a hair transplant on top if you'd like?
I think we can't afford the wages you guys are paying that scouser with the offensive first touch and the hair transplant. Sorry, mate. Have to decline here.
 
I actually am finding it difficult to find one valid reason as to why he would want to swap United for Bayern.

It's a pathetic attempt at a back page headliner.
 
I think we can't afford the wages you guys are paying that scouser with the offensive first touch and the hair transplant. Sorry, mate. Have to decline here.

We could afford them from a financial viewpoint, but why would we pay him that much? I'd rather we give that money to Müller on top of what he earns right now. Just to make sure.
 
I reckon we could get Muller. I have the feeling that things between him and Pep aren't the best, and that he may be tempted to go to United and be the star man. Eddie is going to throw mad money at this.
 
I reckon we could get Muller. I have the feeling that things between him and Pep aren't the best, and that he may be tempted to go to United and be the star man. Eddie is going to throw mad money at this.
Does that shit cleaner still work for you?
 
they said it would be impossible to take bastian. they say it's impossible to take muller. he'll be next and after that we're coming back for your women.
 
So Bayern are run like the Spanish pantomime giants where a player can oust the manager?

I expect Guardiola to leave after this season anyway, so rather than let a homegrown player (one of the best in the world on top of that), marketing monster and fan favorite leave I'd also axe the coach first if I was the club's decision maker.
But overall, we aren't like Real, mostly since we don't have a Ronaldo kind of player on our team. Can't think of an instance where a single player got one of our manages fired.
 
I expect Guardiola to leave after this season anyway, so rather than let a homegrown player (one of the best in the world on top of that), marketing monster and fan favorite leave I'd also axe the coach first if I was the club's decision maker.
But overall, we aren't like Real, mostly since we don't have a Ronaldo kind of player on our team. Can't think of an instance where a single player got one of our manages fired.

The thing is though if Pep was sacked because he decided he wanted to move Muller on then regardless of whether this is his last season or not, it sends the message out to the next manager that he is basically obligated to want Muller and get along with him, making the player more powerful than the manager, something I find very unlikely at your club. It's all by the by of course as Muller wont be going anywhere, I just don't buy the idea that Bayern would ever allow a player to have that kind of power.
 
I'd love us to sign muller,he'd be perfect for us,just pay whatever they want,he's worth it.break the record if need be.
 
they said it would be impossible to take bastian. they say it's impossible to take muller. he'll be next and after that we're coming back for your women.

Agree with this. Bayern are basically going to become our feeder club over the next few years. Resistance is futile.
 
And then he'll join us as manager. The perfect crime.

Why do you want him as manager after failing at bayern?
He was extremely lucky to come across the same time as the best player ever.

He is just proving what anybody in the world knows that he made few altering changes to van gaals basic tactics instilled at barcelona.

The same reason he wiped his lips off at the chance to manage bayern but struggles due to an aging schweinsteiger, robben & ribery.
 
Would absolutely cream my pants if he were to join us. From all our possible muppet transfer rumours however, I see it as the most unlikely; even more so than Ronaldo.
 
We don't want anything. "Not for sale"

Oh OK then,let's just continue with Rooney as our only striker.schwiensteiger was 'not for sale' too.how did that up?let's be honest here,muller is a massive,massive upgrade on Rooney.
 
Oh OK then,let's just continue with Rooney as our only striker.schwiensteiger was 'not for sale' too.how did that up?let's be honest here,muller is a massive,massive upgrade on Rooney.

Rummenigge never said Schweinsteiger wasn't for sale if I remember correctly. At least I didn't hear him say it. He did say it about Müller, though. Quite clearly and repeatedly. And of course Müller'd be an upgrade on Rooney for United. Who even denied that?
 
This again?
I'm surprised th they haven't linked us with Messi yet.
 
Oh OK then,let's just continue with Rooney as our only striker.schwiensteiger was 'not for sale' too.how did that up?let's be honest here,muller is a massive,massive upgrade on Rooney.

I think Müller would make a system with Rooney work. That is actually why van Gaal is so desperate for him. He can cause enough havoc to distract the defenders from Rooney - or become invisible just to make hits on his own...

He is not perfect as a lone striker. He needs to move as he is in a disadvantage because of his body. But until now all strikers he worked with functioned great and he kept scoring. And when really needed he functions as that lone striker, too.

But despite some articles yesterday or today in the English press (where somebody seems to still want to stir transfer rumours) he right now looks very happy in Munich. And the club and the officials in the last days really emphasized how important he is for them.

The Schweinsteiger story is different to Müller's. Schweinsteiger is 5 years older - and - he was the main face for Bayern still in 2012 but was not anymore recently. It is easy to let the old generation go when the next generation is already established...
 
Let us try it different...

How much money would Real need to offer for a Manchester United player that...

... is homegrown player out of the region and plays for the club since he is 10 (and if you see e.g. class photos of that 6 year old Müller he was the only guy who wore his Bayern stuff in school, too)
... was the top scorer of the team in the recent 6 years (and in 4 single seasons of that) in all competitions despite not being the main striker and only 25 years old - top scorer not only in goals but in assists, too
... no scandals, no tatoos, very disciplined
... is an easy character that takes care of everybody in the dressing room, in the recent years grew more and more in a leading role on and off the pitch where he is the team speaker, too - whenever it gets critical
... is World Champion, won golden and silber boot and the silver ball in the two recent World Cups, was in the Ballon d'Or list 4 times in the last 5 seasons.
... is very consistent. Had more than 10 goals and more than 10 assists in 5 of the 6 last seasons no matter what position or how many injuries of others etc.
... is very intelligent and has a very strong mentality with which he can influence the other players, does not take himself too serious
... your team has the goal to grow e.g. in the Chinese market - you remark that this player gets Justin Bieber like receptions there es the Chinese seem to like especially the funny side of his character
... is the best entertainer for fans and the team and leads the celebrations after title wins
... is the absolute media love - when your coach does not want to go to media dates of the TV channels after the matches they ask instead for him to come and let him analyse the match...
... never has missed more than 1 club match in a row because of an injury or illness since he was 10

Tough one.. Even if he wants to come, I dont think Bayern will sell.. Personally, nothing less than a world record fee would be entertained by Bayern.. We are probably looking at the first 100M£ player..

Personally I rate him very high and feel he is one of the most underated world class player you are seeing right now in football.. I would love to have him here personally.. But I just can't see Bayern sell him under any circumstance..
 
Seriously, we're back to the made-up Müller stories now? Don't be surprised if Pedro decides to stay at Barca while United is chasing shadows in Bavaria.
 
Seriously, we're back to the made-up Müller stories now? Don't be surprised if Pedro decides to stay at Barca while United is chasing shadows in Bavaria.

Yes... it is funny how the british "Express" finds some mysterious friends of Müller who tell that he has told them he would be interested in the move... when the German media does not know anything of it... :cool::cool::D

Especially when this media is so good informed that they tell "Bayern are also fighting off interest in Mario Gotze who scored Germany’s winner in their World Cup triumph against Argentina last season." - Rummenigge for sure did not sound like he would fight off the interest when Götze wants to go and another club pays a decent prize...
 
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