Of today...
Thomas Müller
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Of today...
I think the same every time I watch Alaba!
only player in the Bayern team that I think has a look a like
No all there is to learn from this thread and the Cavani thread is "Oh Noes what about CM and LB?" "Oh Noes we wont have any money left" and finally "Oh Noes what about Welbeck?"
The club would try and get 6 players. It's easier said than done to do so but they would try. Correct about the European football. There's still a chance of it. Tottenham lose a game and United win the rest. But yes, with no European football there's a little more leeway to bring in players.
Is he terrible or brillant? He is special...
Erm why?
Ok, that's fair. But you're still missing the point. We wouldn't be trying to find a winger who is less makeshift in that position than Kagawa/Mata. If we do go out to sign a winger, we'll presumably try and sign a proper, specialist winger. Muller is more suited to the position than Kagawa, agreed, but that doesn't make it his natural position.
I hear you, and I agree. But I'd be surprised if we were able to bring in a specialist winger who can offer as much as Muller on the wing. Bit bummed that the story didn't gather any momentum today.
For the many, many reasons I've listed earlier in this thread.
It's very much an opinion though - I dislike the way he conducts himself on the pitch, and I'm not a fan of the style of football he plays, but those are entirely personal opinions. I'm not suggesting that anyone else ought to feel that way.
You have some very strange opinions.
His just a better version of Welbeck.. But Wel's is English and our own so I'd rather keep him. Other positions need improve.
Yeah, anything other than 'omgodddd, good player available, buy him buy him buy him!' is an outlier in the transfer forum I know.
He's just the kind of player United need to partner Rooney or RVP. Someone who actually bases his game on movement and running.
Fast, strong, technically very good, scores goals for fun and provides a good number of assists and he can play RW comfortably, what is not to like ?
Perfect fit for LVG's system
-------------DDG---------------
Rafael---Jones--Benatia---Rodriguez
------Carvalho----Pjanic----------
-------------Mata---------------
Müller--------------------Januzaj
-------------RVP----------------
That team would rip the PL apart
Perfect fit for LVG's system
-------------DDG---------------
Rafael---Jones--Benatia---Rodriguez
------Carvalho----Pjanic----------
-------------Mata---------------
Müller--------------------Januzaj
-------------RVP----------------
That team would rip the PL apart
He is a better version of Welbeck in the sense that he isn't useless infront of goal and can actually play pretty well on the right wing. An upgrade allround wouldn't you say ? A Welbeck that could score goals and play on the wing is exactly the type of player this club needs. But I guess being English is more important than being a good footballer...
I personally think he'd get into any team in the world and would be too good to turn down. He offers something completely different to our current set of attackers and adds plenty of versatility in attack. It'd mean Welbeck moving down in the pecking order and potentially moving on though. And it'd still leave us with a lack of pace in attack.
I'm really afraid of that actually happening. I'd rather get rid of Guardiola than Müller.
He won't leave. Not the slightest chance.
He's brilliant.
Not what we need though. Would obviously still take him, but would rather his large fee is spent on midfielders and full backs.
Not what we need though. Would obviously still take him, but would rather his large fee is spent on midfielders and full backs.
By god, I hope you're right. I really do. Still, I've got a bad feeling about this.
No way in hell is he leaving. Before that happens, Guardiola gets shown the door. He is the personification of Bayern Munich.
My fear is that the bosses won't care because Pep is everybody's darling (while I'm quite fed up with his recent bullshit).
I can already see it coming: Müller goes to United and we're stuck with Kroos forever.
the fans would start a riot. The reaction would be 10x worse than the "koan neuer" thing. One of the very few things the management could do to actually endanger their jobs.
I just bumped into this, so many saying "Oh God, no"
WTF? We could realy dow ith someone with a football brain.
WTF? We could realy dow ith someone with a football brain.
Amazing. He as good on the wing as a second striker. Get rid of rubbish like Valencia and Young and sign him up.His greatest strength is his movement. I'd say that's exactly what we need. Bayern won't be selling him though, not a chance.
I watched almost the whole thing and it is totally opposite of what everyone here is saying about the player
He is certainly not slow, he is intelligent, he runs into space, he plays with his head up which our players can't do these days and he can finish. What is there not to like? In fact, i would probably take him over Kroos
People don't appreciate what he does on the pitch and i was of that opinion until I dug a little deeper. He'd be one of the best strikers in the prem if he joined.
Some of the reactions in this thread are hilarious.
"Please no, don't sign him, I don't like his ears"
"Please no, don't sign him, I don't like his ears"
Of course, he's a world class player, always in movement, has a great shot, great header, extremely intelligent, he'd walk in blindfolded into our team.
Muller seems to be underrated by many because of his sheer functionality and lack of flash. He does everything very well but nothing exceptionally, which makes him pretty much the complete modern forward: versatile, hardworking, disciplined, skilful, clinical, physical, tactically aware etc etc
Spot on.
Quality though he is I just don't think he's the attacking player we should be breaking the bank for right now. A proper wide player with pace is more needed.
Do not want. Good footballer and all, but comes off massively as the typical unlikeable arrogant German dork. Perfect for Bayern. Even Robben throttled him during a match for being a typical unlikeable arrogant German dork.
They were having a discussion on the radio today about whether this guy was all he's cracked up to be. I know the radio shows aren't the most reliable, but I think the fact that these discussions are taking place just says it all. I really don't think he's anything special.
He's one of them players that people claim does 'subtle things' or is 'tactically' good, which means that he's just not a player that really stands out.
He's one of them players that people claim does 'subtle things' or is 'tactically' good, which means that he's just not a player that really stands out.
he is underrated by one half and mystified/overrated (especially in germany) by the other half. The whole "Raumdeuter/space infestigator" story got a bit out of control. I think you got it spot on. He is good because he has almost everything what a good forward needs, without being exceptional at one thing.
His strengh is to play around another forward; he can do that central or shifted on the right wing. He is quality, but he is no classic nr10 like Mata or a traditional winger like Nani.
You think that a player that is the best scorer (goals + assists) in the last 5 years of a club that has been in the CL final 3 times - and that in the age of 19 to 24 - does not stand out? I am pretty sure that he has the best numbers of all Bundesliga players in this period, too.
Or a player that this year for sure is not played very often in best conditions for him but even like this still scores 25 goals and makes 15 assists in about 3200 minutes? (I often read in this forum if XYZ would be played in the right position for him he would be good - Müller ain't played in them either - he played in central midfield or as a lone striker against parked busses... so often this season - a player who likes to have space in a ball possession system where there is none)
I do not have to add everything else and talk about World Cups, National teams, important goals etc.?
That is to easy as there is a lot things he really stands out with. He for sure is one of the most intelligent players and his off-the-ball-movement is nothing but world class. He is no individualist but a team player - maybe that is why he is underrated by a lot of the people. In addition to his own goals and assists his movement or positioning is often key for the goals of others.
For a lot of the people you need to have pace or be great in dribblings and 1vs1s to be called good - bullocks... A football is a match 11 vs 11 in which a player only has the ball for some seconds in the match and the match has a lot else in it than just the ball action.
No - he is not a classical winger like Nani - but he does about as much assists from the wing in CL and League as Nani does - plus he scores a lot of goals... - and Mata - he does not have Müller's goal or assist numbers either. He came close last year - but he is far less consistent.
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