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Ok.

So Fire Pro Wrestling World is going to be coming to PS4. For those of you that dont know. FPW is the greatest of all wrestling games in terms of a series and has been since the SNES. It also has a shit ton of customisable options including a super indepth Create A Wrestler system.

With that in mind. If enough people plan on getting it I am willing to set up Red Cafe Pro Wrestling(RCPW) with wrestlers made by Caftards, I may need some help with booking etc but it should be fun to do as a little side project.

More will follow once we get more news.on the release etc. But just giving you the heads up now.
Will it be on PS4?
 
Was watching until the stream cut out just before the main event.....reminds me why I hate streaming things. Caught it afterwards after somehow avoiding social media for the day.

Main event was brilliant unsurprisingly but the booking of it seemed a little off. Absolutely brutal match, the shotgun dropkick through the barrier was made me wince.

Okada crawling to beat Omega in the last few seconds made no sense in my head, considering it would have made more sense for Omega to be crawling to Okada after finally hitting the One Winged Angel. Just odd.

That's literally the only thing I'd change from it, but I do understand what they're going for. Okada is the guy, and Gedo clearly has major plans for both guys. My suspicion is Omega beats Okada in the G1 with his first One Winged Angel in the middle.

What I did love from it was the total non-involvement of the Young Bucks, who's entire role was to stop the rest of the Bullet Club getting involved. The obvious thing to draw from that is they think Kenny is better than AJ and better than Devitt and fully capable of beating Okada on his own, and the matches have sure portrayed Kenny as the only man who can push Okada right to his limits.

Presumably this leads to the Bullet Club finally splitting off with them vs Cody etc…
 


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This segment right here is a key example as to how blood makes a fight more effective. I mean, it was a good segment regardless, but compare it to Angle's headbutt to Joe on his TNA debut:

That was badass, and the blood added so much to the intensity of the confrontation/fight. Regardless, I'm glad they went the route of Joe instigating a fight with a headbutt which I hoped they would.
 
The match at the PPV needs to be like this. Make Joe look like a badass threat to Brock.
 
True. But Joe main eventing a WWE PPV for the title against Brock is still surreal.

I just hope the rumours about Lesnar keeping the title until Wrestlemania aren't true.

Give it to Joe and have him face Reigns at Wrestlemania in the main event.
 
That's literally the only thing I'd change from it, but I do understand what they're going for. Okada is the guy, and Gedo clearly has major plans for both guys. My suspicion is Omega beats Okada in the G1 with his first One Winged Angel in the middle.

Oddly Meltzer (or the other guy on his radio show) seemed to think the idea behind Okada crawling and not Omega is that the idea is to highlight the cracks in Okadas armour so to speak. That he beat Omega at WK but a few months later he cant beat the same guy due to the tough matches he has been since then. Sound enough theory but leaves Omega in limbo and allows the now much stronger possibility of Cody winning at the Long Beach show due to Okada being so worn down from title defense after title defense.
 
Oddly Meltzer (or the other guy on his radio show) seemed to think the idea behind Okada crawling and not Omega is that the idea is to highlight the cracks in Okadas armour so to speak. That he beat Omega at WK but a few months later he cant beat the same guy due to the tough matches he has been since then. Sound enough theory but leaves Omega in limbo and allows the now much stronger possibility of Cody winning at the Long Beach show due to Okada being so worn down from title defense after title defense.
Cody won't win. No fecking way they put the HW title on Cody.
 
Cody won't win. No fecking way they put the HW title on Cody.

You would hope not though you cant rule out something stupid/unprecedented to launch the American side of things (and I like Cody Rhodes but no way he should be winning). That being said I think it makes more sense for Cody to lose to Okada showcasing how great Okada is to the new market.
 
Oddly Meltzer (or the other guy on his radio show) seemed to think the idea behind Okada crawling and not Omega is that the idea is to highlight the cracks in Okadas armour so to speak. That he beat Omega at WK but a few months later he cant beat the same guy due to the tough matches he has been since then. Sound enough theory but leaves Omega in limbo and allows the now much stronger possibility of Cody winning at the Long Beach show due to Okada being so worn down from title defense after title defense.

The match itself told that story well I thought, and Omega crawling over would have made it even clearer especially since Kenny took a month off. It'd also really highlight again that Okada hasn't kicked out of the One Winged Angel (which I assume will be really played up in the G1 with a Kenny win over Okada, assuming they're in the same block)

Cody won't win. No fecking way they put the HW title on Cody.

I can definitely see it happening, especially with the G1 coming up. The title holder couldn't be less important this time of the year, and you can really play up tension in the Bullet Club.
 
The match at the PPV needs to be like this. Make Joe look like a badass threat to Brock.

I'd love a match like this between them. To this day, I believe this was TNA's highest grossing PPV and it was because of these two and the build.

This was another one of Russo's bizarre choices. The build was that of UFC - they didn't brawl, they just hyped them up showing their training and them cutting promos. The only time they came face to face was for the contract signing. I may be wrong here as it was so long ago, so feel free to correct me. And the match itself was never done again. IMO, that's the way TNA should have gone with their wrestling. A mix of UFC and typical WWE wrestling with the finishers etc, without spamming said finishers and kickouts like they do today. But Russo decided never to do it again because he thinks no one watches wrestling for the wrestling. Sighduck.

It was so refreshing to see something different, and it wasn't appreciated because it was different; it was good, too. It being something refreshing different was just the icing on the cake.
Shamed he's gonna job out to Lesnar.
They need to realise what they have in Joe and keep this from happening. I mean, he was going to spend his entire career in NXT but proved them wrong. Let's hope he does during the build for the PPV here, too. They could put on an absolute classic, and establish Joe as a top guy, which they are sorely lacking. The won't, though, because they're too set in their ways.
I just hope the rumours about Lesnar keeping the title until Wrestlemania aren't true.

Give it to Joe and have him face Reigns at Wrestlemania in the main event.
The excitement of Joe not only becoming WWE champion, but being champ going into WM, is immediately drained by the mere mention of Reigns. He's such a hoover vacuum of excitement.
 
I can definitely see it happening, especially with the G1 coming up. The title holder couldn't be less important this time of the year, and you can really play up tension in the Bullet Club.
I can see it happening. I just don't think it will. I don't think they will let Okada's reign (which might be the best title reign ever) end with Cody in the USA. I can see Okada drop the belt to either Naito or Omega. No one else. Cody will have a good match with Okada (especially if he's the ROH champ by then) but ultimately he'll lose but be a part of the story that Okada is slowly but surely losing his grip on the title. I can see him barely get by Cody and have a G1 where he loses a few times.
 
Just watched Raw. Bailey is such a pussy bitch, can't believe anyone even defended her in the first place.
 
Money in the Bank is the perfect time to push Sami Zayn, let him win the briefcase and then announce his intention to cash it in ahead of time in a few months with Jinder Mahal still holding the belt. After scraping through a few more title matches with DQs and the Singh brothers interfering against Orton and Cena, he finally loses it to Zayn, elevating both of them and using the most recognisable names in the company to add even more heat to Mahal and make the win feel significant. Of course this will never happen and we'll get yet another few months of nothing really happening, continuing Smackdown's decline since Wrestlemania.
 
Money in the Bank is the perfect time to push Sami Zayn, let him win the briefcase and then announce his intention to cash it in ahead of time in a few months with Jinder Mahal still holding the belt. After scraping through a few more title matches with DQs and the Singh brothers interfering against Orton and Cena, he finally loses it to Zayn, elevating both of them and using the most recognisable names in the company to add even more heat to Mahal and make the win feel significant. Of course this will never happen and we'll get yet another few months of nothing really happening, continuing Smackdown's decline since Wrestlemania.

I think whoever wins MitB is cashing in during Randy/Jinder and winning
 
I think whoever wins MitB is cashing in during Randy/Jinder and winning

I think the winner of the women's match will so surely they won't have two cash ins. Maybe they will, ratings are at an all time low.
 
MITB Predictions
Pre Show
Hype Bros V The Colons

Becky V Carmella V Charlotte V Natalya V Tamina
Naomi V Lana
Usos V The New Day
AJ Styles V Owens V Ziggler V Corbin V Zayn V Nakamura
Jinder Mahal V Randy Orton
 
Pre Show
Hype Bros V The Colons

Becky V Carmella V Charlotte V Natalya V Tamina
Naomi V Lana
Usos V The New Day (via DQ)
AJ Styles V Owens V Ziggler V Corbin V Zayn V Nakamura
Jinder Mahal V Randy Orton
 
Probably have Orton win in his home town in the main event. When hes celebrating, Corbin takes him out with the case and cashes in :)

Zayn winning it would be good stuff. I do expect Mahal to retain given he was on the receiving end of a RKO on SD.
 
MITB Predictions
Pre Show
Hype Bros V The Colons

Becky V Carmella V Charlotte V Natalya V Tamina
Naomi V Lana
Usos V The New Day
AJ Styles V Owens V Ziggler V Corbin V Zayn V Nakamura
Jinder Mahal V Randy Orton
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Hope not, Corbyn is terrible!
 
Probably have Orton win in his home town in the main event. When hes celebrating, Corbin takes him out with the case and cashes in :)

Zayn winning it would be good stuff. I do expect Mahal to retain given he was on the receiving end of a RKO on SD.
I wonder if they will do a same night cash in again after doing it last year. If Sami gets it I hope they have him play up that overthinking persona loads. Debating cashing in while running in on a match and stuff like that.
 
I wonder if they will do a same night cash in again after doing it last year. If Sami gets it I hope they have him play up that overthinking persona loads. Debating cashing in while running in on a match and stuff like that.
That'd be funny. :D
 
I'm tempted to come back for this because the two MITB matches are interesting and there isn't really a bad winner they could do apart from Charlotte. Actually looks a half decent event bar the main event and the women's title match which is going to be an atrocity.
 


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This segment right here is a key example as to how blood makes a fight more effective. I mean, it was a good segment regardless, but compare it to Angle's headbutt to Joe on his TNA debut:

That was badass, and the blood added so much to the intensity of the confrontation/fight. Regardless, I'm glad they went the route of Joe instigating a fight with a headbutt which I hoped they would.


Blood and a crowd that isn't packed full of kids and their mums.

Was watching No Way Out from 2001 as per a video from Simon of WhatCulture and he specifically mentioned how into everything the crowd was and what a difference it makes.

Always strikes me when watching wrestling nowadays. We were so fecking lucky growing up being able to witness the sheer scenes whenever anything happened during the Attitude Era. The crowd makes everything so, so much better.
 
Blood and a crowd that isn't packed full of kids and their mums.

Was watching No Way Out from 2001 as per a video from Simon of WhatCulture and he specifically mentioned how into everything the crowd was and what a difference it makes.

Always strikes me when watching wrestling nowadays. We were so fecking lucky growing up being able to witness the sheer scenes whenever anything happened during the Attitude Era. The crowd makes everything so, so much better.
Yep, we were lucky to grow up with the Attitude Era. About the kids part, I'm positive more children watched back then than they do now as well! I was one of them! If I had grown up in this era of wrestling, I'm sure I wouldn't have the love that I do for wrestling now.

I just went back and looked at the NWO PPV on Wikipedia, and for the life of me I cannot remember anything about it.

TNA around this time, 05-08ish (my favourite period of the company) was like this for most shows. A lot of great wrestling, an energetic crowd, and just an entertaining product. I'm still annoyed at how Bischoff, Hogan and Dixie completely destroyed the company. Caught an episode last night on Spike TV (just the main event bewteen Lashley and Moose I think he was called) and the crowd and arena was dead. I hadn't watched for a good few years and it was sad to see it in that state after such a promising start.

Honestly, apart from TNAs 05-08ish stint, the last time I really got into something in the WWE product since maybe Evolution/Shawn Michaels/Benoit era was Daniel Bryan's WWE quest around '13/14. He's right up there with Austin as my favourite ever, and the crowd reactions to his matches were incredible when he got going. I still stand by that he eclipsed CM Punk as the most over guy since Austin/Rock.

Speaking of Punk, his "pipebomb" actually got me interested back in the product again before hearing Bryan was getting a push later on. I hadn't watched for ages and this blew up that even me, someone in the UK who hadn't thought about wrestling in a long time, heard about it. I bought the PPV where he won the belt, I believe; I was that invested. Then, predictable WWE shoot themselves in the foot with their horrendous booking and only caring about John Cena, so I quit again soon after. I'm not even a fan of Punk's but it was clear as daylight that he was the guy to go with then.
 
NWO souled out? I remember that being a garbage PPV (pretty much each year) lol.

I wonder if they will do a same night cash in again after doing it last year. If Sami gets it I hope they have him play up that overthinking persona loads. Debating cashing in while running in on a match and stuff like that.

That would be quite good. Ultimately with him deciding to cash-in in his home town, but being the ultimate good guy announcing he will do it.
 
I can't be doing with the pre show tonight. i will flick on at 5 to 1.

I just did that in time to see the Hype bros vs Colons ending.
If they showed Renee more on screen I probably would watch it but they show that sam dude who is annoying.

Anyway, im looking forward to this PPV for the ladder matches.