Its me, it's me, it's killing the WWE creatively
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Its one of the more bizarre match bookings Ive seen to be honest. Made the Hardys look idiotic-Jeff for re-entering and Matt for trying and failing to drag him out. I get they didn't want the Hardys losing via pinfall but they could have done it another way instead.
Bayley-Alexa was just terrible booking. Bayley has been awful since she came up to the main roster (not entirely her fault).
The main event was fantastic even though I knew the result in advance because my buddy text me to say ''Cant wait for Joe-Lesnar'' while I was still watching Alexa vs Bayley.
Cant wait for the meltdown when Lesnar vs Joe consists of only 15 German Suplexs 1 F5 and then random interference from the not actually injured for 6 months Braun Strowman to set up Summerslam. There is no chance that Lesnar vs Joe is going to be anyway near competitive, Lesnar will have no interest in taking any of Samoa Joes rubbish pretend bad-ass offence or even making an effort for a throwaway match/ppv. Lets face it both Ambrose and Reigns have said Lesnar didn't want to give anything at all in their matches and one of those was a WrestleMania main event ffs. Joe doesn't stand a chance.
Joe was great last night. He was about as close as you'll get to a WWE character actually being chilling. Like a mob boss being friendly to a guy he's about to kill.
Joe is so believable as a badass. It really will be a shame if its not a competitive match. Brocks best matches since returning have been Cena (first one) and Punk.
Well for what its worth, Raw actually put on a decent show last night
The only problem I see in this feud is who the crowd is going to root for. Joe is the heel everyone hoped Reigns would be and Brock Lesnar hasn't wrestled in a minute.
That Joe/Heyman segment is top 3 segments on WWE TV this week, that's for sure. Anyone catch the Best of the Super Juniors final? What a match!
Mahal's underwhelming reign continues. They need to get the title far away from him and Randy.
Usos just had their best promo in like...ever.
I agree. But that said, i dont mind the title on ORton, since i think its a bloody farce that John Cena has more title runs than him. I also think its a farce that John Cena will eventually have more title runs than Ric Flair.
Farce.
Their mic game has been strong since just before they became champions. Real breakout year for them.
Hehe lots of farces. My problem with Randy as the title holder is that he is a bit too boring for my liking. Hasn't had an interesting feud in a long time.
Agreed. With the New Day they finally have a group that can match them and produce a great series. Looking forward to it.
Far better week from WWE so far. Both shows were actually quite decent.
Hes not the type of guy to grab the bull by the horn and make Smackdown "his" show, to be the top draw. Because of that, he really should be on Raw. AJ styles is that guy.
Randy needs to jump across. Reckon an Orton/Reigns rivalry would be good.
It would be good for sending everyone to sleep. Orton tends to sleepwalk through a lot of matches, never takes too many bumps and keeps the pace slow. He's got the name but not much else these days, his run at the minute as a face, rambling on about the USA doesn't work at all.
Actually agree. Best week in ages. Still nothing great but hey, I'll take it at this point.
Raw was great this week simply because of that Hayman and Samoa Joe segment. The way Joe cornered Heyman and described what he was going to do to him was horrific. Loved it.
Joe has to be heel which is fine. brock bounces between face and heel dependent on opponent. He will be face against him and Braun and heel against Rollins and Finn.
Joe vs Lesnar
Bryan vs Lesnar was the match I most wanted to see out of my entire time being a fan of wrestling, but this will do. God, I don't have much hope because it is the WWE, but I hope it's not a squash. I'm 99% sure it will be, though.
I haven't really watched the product since 2015 bar a couple of matches but I'm going to watch the entire build for this feud and every Joe match. I still won't tune in for a RAW because, well, I'm not crazy, but every Joe promo/match/sneeze will be watched.
I actually went back to watch the 5-way match at ER when I heard and was let down. I thought, with it being extreme rules, and having a good set of wrestlers in said match, it'd be very good but I thought it was below average. The fact that they still try to make everything about Reigns is annoying. Nice thread title, by the way!
I liked the Joe promo after the PPV, and his segment with Heyman. I didn't like his match with Seth. They need to get out of this pre-historic booking of heels not being able to win without cheating. It's boring. You're building this guy to face Brock Lesnar and he can't beat Seth Rollins on his own. Please just try something different. It won't completely demolish Seth's career by taking a clean loss to Joe.
Looking forward to Joe's segments next week anywhooooo.
Bryan vs Lesnar was the match I most wanted to see out of my entire time being a fan of wrestling, but this will do. God, I don't have much hope because it is the WWE, but I hope it's not a squash. I'm 99% sure it will be, though.
I haven't really watched the product since 2015 bar a couple of matches but I'm going to watch the entire build for this feud and every Joe match. I still won't tune in for a RAW because, well, I'm not crazy, but every Joe promo/match/sneeze will be watched.
I actually went back to watch the 5-way match at ER when I heard and was let down. I thought, with it being extreme rules, and having a good set of wrestlers in said match, it'd be very good but I thought it was below average. The fact that they still try to make everything about Reigns is annoying. Nice thread title, by the way!
I liked the Joe promo after the PPV, and his segment with Heyman. I didn't like his match with Seth. They need to get out of this pre-historic booking of heels not being able to win without cheating. It's boring. You're building this guy to face Brock Lesnar and he can't beat Seth Rollins on his own. Please just try something different. It won't completely demolish Seth's career by taking a clean loss to Joe.
Looking forward to Joe's segments next week anywhooooo.
On that clean loss part, surely they can just look at Bray Wyatt. Loses to Reigns in the opening match on RAW yet the crowd will obviously still love him.
I thought that fight was great. Built up some good future rivalries, every fighter had their moment to shine, no fighter stock took too much damage and I'm happy with the winner. Thought it was great...
Can the crowd support him though when our champion has been gone since April??
I did! For having 5 of your top guys and all of them being good workers (even Reigns though I can't stand him) in an "extreme rules" match, it was a complete let-down for me. It was very sloppy I thought.You thought that was below average? wow.
There were 3 "extreme" moments going from my memory. The first with Bray and Joe hitting everyone with the steps which looked sloppy and, in general, I'm never a fan of that spot anyway. Obviously they have to work safely but the way Joe and Bray slowly rammed into them, giving each enough time to dodge, wasn't very good.
The second was the announcers table spot. Nothing new, and the way these announce tables break these days look very weak like they're made out of cardboard or something. I personally prefer tables.
The third was the Reigns spear to Joe and Balor outside. Honestly, it was cool when that first happened back in 03 with Goldberg and Rock but here, it didn't look as devastating. It looked like Reigns hugged them through it. Again, pretty sloppy.
The way they tried to make the whole match about Reigns with him being in the middle of the ring on his own at the beginning, being the one to handle Joe and Bray alone, hitting Finn after his dive outside to the other 3, and just generally always being in the spotlight killed some of my enjoyment, too. I think he's improved a lot since debuting but he's killing mine, and a lot of others it seems, interest in the product. And I'm not blaming the guy himself - it's the silly billy's at the WWE. He's not "the guy" and if the WWE accepted this, and stopped treating him higher than Austin,Rock&Hogan combined, I'm sure the product as a whole (at least on RAW) would become more enjoyable. Also, his clotheslines in the corner spot is one of the worst moves I've ever seen. He puts absolutely no effort into making them look like they're actually going to hurt. Just terrible.
I also hated the Joe and Bray teaming up together spot. Everytime they do this spot in a multi man match. The heels team up, beat down the faces for like 2/3s of the match, turn on eachother, then every wrestler hits their finisher in a massive spot fest until the final one getting the win. It's predictable and boring.
I mean, take the Rollins-Balor-Miz main event from RAW a few weeks ago. I watched it and loved it. One of the best matches I've seen in years, and this had Miz in it whom I'm not a fan of and find awkward to watch in the ring, but he was brilliant in it. And the reason it was so good was because all 3 just went for eachother. No teaming up spots; just 3 guys wrestling to win. It was awesome. I'm not saying never use this spot but they don't need to do it every single multi man match. It's stale.
Honestly, using "extreme rules" as a PPV gimmick is pointless nowadys. There was nothing extreme about it. The steel cage match was alright but that was it. I mean, the stipulation for Ambrose-Miz was absurd considering the PPV.
They've changed the Great Balls of Fire logo...
to...
Took them a while to notice the giant flaming cock and balls like everyone else.
to...
Took them a while to notice the giant flaming cock and balls like everyone else.
Even Sasha tweeted about it. That must have been a joke by somebody to see if people notice. surely?
Legend.
Legend.
2017 is the best
Surely Pete Dunne will make it, Tyler Bate too. They're in a bit of an odd place with UK shows happening sporadically and getting occasional appearances on NXT, I hope WWE has a plan for them to move forward and not just tread water, although it's probably for the best they're nowhere near the main roster yet.
Like how Pete Dunne tweets every match (esp for the title) that he has to show hes actually defending it and it snot a once in a while thing.
The latest instalment in the never ending Jim Cornette versus Vince Russo feud. Not sure if anyone has an interest in this or if those who are have seen it already but here it is regardless.
I love Cornette. I watched his re-booking of the invasion DVD a couple or so months ago but, surprisingly, I wasn't a fan of his vision.
Thanks @elnorte . Though I've already heard everything he's said in the video above, I could listen to him all day. Especially bashing Russo. He's incredibly funny. He's issued that challenge to Russo before so I doubt it'll ever happen.
Thanks @elnorte . Though I've already heard everything he's said in the video above, I could listen to him all day. Especially bashing Russo. He's incredibly funny. He's issued that challenge to Russo before so I doubt it'll ever happen.
Ok.
So Fire Pro Wrestling World is going to be coming to PS4. For those of you that dont know. FPW is the greatest of all wrestling games in terms of a series and has been since the SNES. It also has a shit ton of customisable options including a super indepth Create A Wrestler system.
With that in mind. If enough people plan on getting it I am willing to set up Red Cafe Pro Wrestling(RCPW) with wrestlers made by Caftards, I may need some help with booking etc but it should be fun to do as a little side project.
More will follow once we get more news.on the release etc. But just giving you the heads up now.
So Fire Pro Wrestling World is going to be coming to PS4. For those of you that dont know. FPW is the greatest of all wrestling games in terms of a series and has been since the SNES. It also has a shit ton of customisable options including a super indepth Create A Wrestler system.
With that in mind. If enough people plan on getting it I am willing to set up Red Cafe Pro Wrestling(RCPW) with wrestlers made by Caftards, I may need some help with booking etc but it should be fun to do as a little side project.
More will follow once we get more news.on the release etc. But just giving you the heads up now.
Anyone catch the NJPW Dominion show? Injured Tanahashi still pooping out a 4,5 star match, Omega vs Okada II. It's a phenomenal show
Anyone catch the NJPW Dominion show? Injured Tanahashi still pooping out a 4,5 star match, Omega vs Okada II. It's a phenomenal show
Am I the only one who is completely and utterly cold on Lesnar? Every match he just half asses it and phones it in. Bounce around a bit on the ramp like he is touching cloth, bunch of suplexes followed by an f5, thanks for the cash. Hes just a shit Scott steiner minus the personality these days.
WWE always goes shit post Mania. Don't know if it's burnout or just introducing new wrestlers and new storylines. But it's always cack.
Summerslam is always my fav event. Always has matches as big as Mania and yet none of the pressure of Mania and all that Mania brings with it. (Summerslam 2002 the best of all time surely?)
Summerslam is always my fav event. Always has matches as big as Mania and yet none of the pressure of Mania and all that Mania brings with it. (Summerslam 2002 the best of all time surely?)
Was watching until the stream cut out just before the main event.....reminds me why I hate streaming things. Caught it afterwards after somehow avoiding social media for the day.
Main event was brilliant unsurprisingly but the booking of it seemed a little off. Absolutely brutal match, the shotgun dropkick through the barrier was made me wince.
Okada crawling to beat Omega in the last few seconds made no sense in my head, considering it would have made more sense for Omega to be crawling to Okada after finally hitting the One Winged Angel. Just odd.