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Bryan is much smaller than Punk. Punk is the same height as Cena. I don't think Punks match with Brock was as amazing as people make out, and I can't see any way in which Bryan can have a physical match with Brock. I doubt his running knee could even reach Brock's nipple.

Brock's not that tall in wrestling terms - he's 6ft3 - same as Reigns... who Bryan knee'd just fine. He's just built like a freak, which makes him seem taller/bigger. The reason I brought up Punk is because he's a "smaller guy" in the physical sense (not seeming to be "powerful" enough to hurt Brock) and they did just fine... Bryan and Brock are both good enough to mean that size difference wouldn't be an issue at all.
 
Brock's not that tall in wrestling terms - he's 6ft3 - same as Reigns... who Bryan knee'd just fine. He's just built like a freak, which makes him seem taller/bigger. The reason I brought up Punk is because he's a "smaller guy" in the physical sense (not seeming to be "powerful" enough to hurt Brock) and they did just fine... Bryan and Brock are both good enough to mean that size difference wouldn't be an issue at all.
Like how Ambrose looks a lot smaller than he is due to his build but he's actually the tallest of the former Shield members.
 
Reigns was on Conan last night.......

the oddest thing is that he genuinely does have a ton of charisma in this video........ when he's not being force fed lines.



Thoughts?
 
Reigns was on Conan last night.......

the oddest thing is that he genuinely does have a ton of charisma in this video........ when he's not being force fed lines.



Thoughts?


Conan is great. He can make most guests seem interesting.
 
Reigns is fantastic when just talking. That video following on the day of the Rumble was brilliant. They needed more of that stuff, kinda like 24/7 for boxing but with Brock and Reigns for this match, especially with Brock not appearing there instead of Reigns losing to Big Show and and Rollins (thanks to Orton and Reigns not even asking WTF? is up with that...)

Wonder if I would get a pass for grabbing Paiges ass if she walked through the crowd ¬¬
 
Thought it was fairly well known that he is charismatic, being a bit shit at delivering a promo doesn't mean he isn't charismatic though.

I understand that. I'm simply making the point that his character and delivery should play more on his natural charisma. Austin said that back in the Attitude Era they were given more free reign (pun intended) to bullet point and roll with it. I simply just wonder how over he could be given these freedom's.
 
Look at this below, he can 100% cut a promo. Just not when its written by Vince


!!! So what in the heck are they doing over there in WWE creative/brass? That's really good. No stutter, convincing. It's as if they're trying to sabotage him. If that Roman Reigns is allowed to verbalise himself there's no doubt he'd be mega over. It would even stop the IWC from insisting that he remains a mute ass-kicking Goldberg in order to get over.
 
!!! So what in the heck are they doing over there in WWE creative/brass? That's really good. No stutter, convincing. It's as if they're trying to sabotage him. If that Roman Reigns is allowed to verbalise himself there's no doubt he'd be mega over. It would even stop the IWC from insisting that he remains a mute ass-kicking Goldberg in order to get over.

You think its the fault of creative ?

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Ultimately it's the top brass, of course, but from what the insiders, ex-writers and creative members are saying, there's a lack of good strong writing within the WWE at the moment. That does play its part, however, yes, it's entirely plausible that McMahon is micromanaging Reigns.
 
Everything is done to please Vince not the crowd no doubt. Every ex creative member comes out and say its an audience of one they have to write, and rewrite and rewrite again for until hes happy.

Id be very surprised if Vince hasnt latched onto him and is doing all the writing personally for him because thats what he thinks will get over with everybody know, given Vince still lives in the 80s.
 
Everything is done to please Vince not the crowd no doubt. Every ex creative member comes out and say its an audience of one they have to write, and rewrite and rewrite again for until hes happy.

Id be very surprised if Vince hasnt latched onto him and is doing all the writing personally for him because thats what he thinks will get over with everybody know, given Vince still lives in the 80s.

I read a report that suggested that very thing.
 
Finally had a chance to catch up, that ending to raw was fecking abysmal. Heymen was in poor form this week, utterly forgettable promo, followed by the 2 guys that they are building as monsters playing shit tug of war over the belt. shocking and not in a good way! if they were trying to suggest that this was a tussle over the title then they not only failed miserably, they have also forgotten about the intercontinental championship build up!

I do think Mania will be a decent show, i'm kind of looking forward to Taker Vs Bray, Wyatt has done a very good job in building the match by himself and his promo this week was excellent, building him up to be the next 'dark' guy and this match having decent 'pass the torch' possibilities make it intriguing to say the least.

I couldn't care less about the divas tag match, like it is literally a piss break match.

The ladder match will be a decent spot fest, i'm looking forward to that, the only thing i'm looking forward to in the battle royal is Mizdow, he better win!

HHH Vs Sting i think might end up stealing the show, I think both men still got it.

Anyway, i'm looking forward to it, hopefully it won't be another Wrestlemania 15 but I don't think we'll ever see a mania that bad again.
 
The main events of the odd numbers have been bad.
29, 27, 25.
30,28,26 were good though.
31 hopefully breaks that pattern.
 
The main events of the odd numbers have been bad.
29, 27, 25.
30,28,26 were good though.
31 hopefully breaks that pattern.

29 and 27 weren't really that great all round either - 25 was saved by Taker vs. Michael in the main.

There's only one slam dunk of a great match at Mania - and that's the ladder match, everything else could go either way for me.
 
25 had HHH vs Orton as main event. taker vs HBK was best match though.

I think the Sting/HHH match will be good for the spectacle. Taker, im intrigued to see what he looks like, how he is and all that surrounding him. Reigns vs Brock could go either way and I think it also depends on the crowd and how they react to it.
 
19 gave us Rock vs Austin

17 is my fav Rock vs Austin match. Wasnt 19 Brock vs angle? I liked that PPV too. Had some fantastic matches. Both PPvs actually. 18 I didnt like the Main event though the Rock/Hogan match was fantastic to watch.
 
19 gave us Rock vs Austin

That wasn't the main event (it was for 17) - 19 was Brock vs. Angle, which was still a great match to be fair... I think he meant more in recent years.

25 had HHH vs Orton as main event. taker vs HBK was best match though.

I think the Sting/HHH match will be good for the spectacle. Taker, im intrigued to see what he looks like, how he is and all that surrounding him. Reigns vs Brock could go either way and I think it also depends on the crowd and how they react to it.

HHH vs. Orton was pretty bad if I remember correctly - not helped by a pretty awful build going into it.
 
HHH vs. Orton was pretty bad if I remember correctly - not helped by a pretty awful build going into it.

That match was spoilt by the stipulation too. HHH vs Orton was meant to be brutal instead, that stupid stip of HHH can lose the title by DQ limited it. Instead it should have been a no DQ match.

And yeah I meant recent years. The main events varied year by year from good to ... is that it?
 
Reigns was on Conan last night.......

the oddest thing is that he genuinely does have a ton of charisma in this video........ when he's not being force fed lines.



Thoughts?


You understand that's fairly scripted too right? Probably not to similar levels, but they know the general gist of what will happen in their 10 minute chat from earlier.

Then again, he delivers it better, though Conan can do that with anyone. Plus it's more natural stuff to be talking about than trying to making epic troll esque catchphrases like "I CAN I WILL" work. He'll probably never be a top level talker.
 
Mania Predictions people! (And balls to that boring pre-show four way tag match they seem to do every month.)

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Bryan

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena
- Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins
- Orton

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
- Don't care, but probably Sheamus.

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins
- Bella twins

Sting vs. Triple H
- Triple H

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt
- Undertaker

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns
- Brock Lesnar
 
Mania Predictions people! (And balls to that boring pre-show four way tag match they seem to do every month.)

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Bryan

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena
- Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins
- Orton

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
- Don't care, but probably Sheamus.

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins
- Bella twins

Sting vs. Triple H
- Triple H

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt
- Undertaker

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns
- Brock Lesnar


Nice one - Template (anyone got any ideas for others?) :

4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) -

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan -

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena -

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins -

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal -

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins -

Sting vs. Triple H -

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt -

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns -


Other:

Opener on the main card:
Longest match:
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance?
Make a bold prediction:
Which finishing move will we see the most?:
 
Opener on the main card: IC Title match.
Longest match: Lesnar vs Reigns
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? Undertaker
Make a bold prediction: Vince McMahon to get involved in the Triple H vs Sting match
Which finishing move will we see the most?: Reigns spear
 
WM31 Predictions:

Tag Four Way - Winners: Cesaro and Kidd to Retain
Andre Battle Royal - Winner: Sheamus
Cena vs Rusev - Winner: Cena
IC Title Ladder Match - Winner: Dean Ambrose (hardest one to predict for me)
Divas Tag match - Winners: Aj and Paige
Orton vs Rollins - Winner: Orton
Undertaker vs Wyatt - Winner: Undertaker
HHH vs Sting - Winner: Sting
Reigns vs Lesnar - Winner: Reigns

I'm thinking WWE will go with the predictable route, I hope i'm wrong and now with Brock's contract renewal it seems likely but I dont think WWE will have the guts to shake things up. As for the match itself I have some hope that it would be good, Brock is a monster but he'd have to carry that match and make Reigns look great. The IC ladder match should be great, could be the match of the night. As for the rest of the matches I think they'll be ok to good, I dont think this year will be a disaster but it wont be great either it'll be an ok Wrestlemania.
 
4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) - Cesaro & Kidd

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Daniel Bryan

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena - John Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins - Seth Rollins

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Sheamus

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins - The Bella Twins

Sting vs. Triple H - Sting

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt - Bray Wyatt

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns - Roman Reigns

Other:

Opener on the main card:
IC Title
Longest match: Sting vs. HHH
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? HHH
Make a bold prediction: I'd say Bray Wyatt beating Taker is pretty bold! But other than that a double turn in the main event.
Which finishing move will we see the most?: Brogue Kick
 
4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) - Cesaro & Kidd

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Bryan

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena - Rusev

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins - Rollins

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Mizdow

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins - Bella's

Sting vs. Triple H - Sting

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt - Bray Wyatt

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns - Lesnar


Other:

Opener on the main card: Tag match

Longest match: Sting/HHH

Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? Taker

Make a bold prediction: Excluding Taker, there will be more than 2 returns/debuts in the entire PPV.

Which finishing move will we see the most?: Spear (hitting a few to make Roman look strong and that he can dominate Brock, but Lesnar will kick out of them all and get the win)
 
4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) - Cesaro and Kidd

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Dean Ambrose

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena -
Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins -
Rollins

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal -
Sheamus

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins -
AJ and Paige

Sting vs. Triple H -
Sting

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt -
Undertaker

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns -
Reigns

Other:

Opener on the main card:
Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins
Longest match: Intercontinental title match
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? Undertaker
Make a bold prediction: Rollins cashes in on Reigns at the end but fails
Which finishing move will we see the most?: AA
 
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4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) -Cesaro/kidd

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan -Ambrose

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena -Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins - Orton

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Mizdow

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins -Bellas

Sting vs. Triple H -Sting

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt - toughest one to call, my head says Taker but I think they'd be stupid not to put their new "dark" character over.

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns - Lesnar.


Other:

Opener on the main card: ladder match
Longest match: ladder match
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? TAKER
Make a bold prediction:Rollins will.lose against Orton and then cash in on the main event.
Which finishing move will we see the most?: F5
 
4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) - Cesaro/Kidd

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Ambrose

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena - Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins - Orton

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Sandow

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins - Paige/AJ

Sting vs. Triple H - Sting

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt - Wyatt (but in all honesty I don't think the match will even start, I can see Wyatt interrupting Taker's entrance, them brawling for a good while and it ending in some kind of symbolic send off to the Undertaker).

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns - Lesnar (I hope)

Other:

Opener on the main card:
IC Title Ladder Match
Longest match: Lesnar vs Reigns
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? Triple H due to reasons stated above.
Make a bold prediction: Rollins cashes in and loses.
Which finishing move will we see the most?: Superman Punch

Its interesting to note that the sun won't set until 7.30pm pacific, so it looks like all but the main event will be in day light as the event runs from 4pm-8pm San Francisco time if I'm not mistaken.
 
4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) - Cesarogun

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Ambrose

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena - Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins - Seth

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Neville

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins - Legion of Womb

Sting vs. Triple H - Sting

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt - Wyatt

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns - Roman


Other:

Opener on the main card:
Longest match: Ladder
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? HHH
Make a bold prediction: is Neville winning the Andre battle royal not bold enough?
Which finishing move will we see the most?: F5
 
4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) - Cesaro & Kidd

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Daniel Bryan

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena - John Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins - Randy Orton (DQ)

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Mizdow or Sheamus. Can't pick it.

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins - AJ and Paige

Sting vs. Triple H - Sting

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt - Taker

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns - Roman Reigns

Other:

Opener on the main card:
Tag match
Longest match: Taker/Wyatt
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? Taker
Make a bold prediction: Mizdown eliminates Miz (Hardly that bold?) - Rollins Cashing in.
Which finishing move will we see the most?: Running Knee
 
4 Way Tag Match (Cesaro & Kidd vs. Uso's vs. Matadores vs. New Day) - Cesaro & Kidd

Bad News Barrett (c) vs. R-Truth vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Luke Harper vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Stardust vs. Daniel Bryan - Daniel Bryan

Rusev (c) vs. John Cena - Cena

Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins - Orton

André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Sheamus

AJ Lee and Paige vs. The Bella Twins - Bella Twins

Sting vs. Triple H - Sting

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt - Undertaker

Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns - Lesnar

Other:

Opener on the main card:
Rusev/Cena
Longest match: Wyatt/Undertaker
Which is longer - Taker or HHH entrance? Undertaker
Make a bold prediction: Stone Cold return
Which finishing move will we see the most?: F5/Tombstone