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Big-Red said:
I don't buy that anyone could beat current Lesnar.
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Thing is, he's already done the unbeatable monster shtick so much, and gone through runs of getting hammered like when he first came back, I just can't really buy into his supposed dominance.

Still, they'll next feed him the Big Show and the like to keep him busy for a while, I'd imagine.
 
WWE will not write Cena off so easily. I expect repeat in NoC with Cena losing againin a much closer matchup....and coming back before WM to beat Lesnar. Either Reigns will take the title from Cena or Cena will get 'injured' vacating the title.

The major storyline near future will be back to Authority trying to get the title to Rollins and Reigns/Ambrose preventing it. Bryan coming back will fit in nicely into this and so will the rumoured Bray turning face.
 
If they think they can "turn" Bray, they just don't understand. He's over being him.
 
Fantasy Booking.

In recent years only one faction has done the damage Lesnar has done, The Shield. Fatal 4 way at Mania, they join to take out Lesnar and then the resulting triple threat crowns a new Champion.
 
Ok so here are a few thoughts.

First off, Cena will have the 'rematch clause' that every champion has for some reason, meaning he will lose to Brock one more time, that will be the main event for the next PPV.

If they are going to stick with Brock having the title until mania then Bryan is the one for me, as good as Reigns is I stick think that he's about a year away from being ready for the title. A Bryan victory would be an amazing rub for him and would be a logical closure point for The Authority claiming him as a 'B Plus player' The only question is whether or not Bryan is ready in time for a Rumble return as that's the only logical way of getting him into the main event at mania.

Dean Ambrose is amazing, he is the best of the three from the shield IMO and those two matches with Seth rollins were unbelieveable, the two sort of remind me of The Rock and Triple H, back in the 90's they fueded in the mid card over the intercontinental title before both moving up to the main event and feuding over the main title, I can see exactly the same thing happening with Ambrose and Rollins, two very talented men.

AJ And Paige actually have me interested in the womens division for a change, the only problem is my interest will inevitable drop once their fued has finished as there is literally no other female wrestler i care about watching, with the exception of.......

Brie and Nicki Bella, I have no interest at all in watching them wrestle, but if they fight, THAT would be worth watching, the storyline is good, the acting is not but it is still engrossing watching.

Then we have the mid card, The Miz Vs Zigglar is a very solid fued, The Miz is doing very well since his return, I know that the charactor was tried on The Rock a few years ago but it works better for Miz as everybody wants to hate him anyway, he is a very solid wrestler and i am enjoying the fued and the wrestling.

Swagger has improved alot, a very good match with caesaro on raw last week, a good showing against rusev at summerslam and another solid match with caesaro this week, doesn't sound right without zeb though.

Finally, Bray Wyatts win over Jericho was much needed and it was another very good match on the Summerslam card, He will be a champion one day, i am just praying that he doesn't fall victim to creatives ingenius.
 
rolandofgilead said:
Swagger has improved alot, a very good match with caesaro on raw last week, a good showing against rusev at summerslam and another solid match with caesaro this week, doesn't sound right without zeb though.
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Having him pass out rather than give in defending the flag at Summerslam, genius move, lovely rub for both him and Rusev.
 
Think it's pretty nailed on that Reigns takes the title of Lesnar at WM. Though the crowd will probably hate him by then, especially if he wins a Rumble which also features Daniel Bryan's emotional return
 
gormless said:
Think it's pretty nailed on that Reigns takes the title of Lesnar at WM. Though the crowd will probably hate him by then, especially if he wins a Rumble which also features Daniel Bryan's emotional return
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The 'WHAT?' chant is obviously the worst ever created and one of the most annoying things imaginable, but feck me the CM Punk chants are currently running it close. Two women going out every week and working hard to try to get themselves over and all a few idiots can do is chant "CM PUNK".
 
Don't know about anyone else, but I have no interest in Brock Lesnar looking like anything other than a complete, unstoppable monster for the next few months.

His and Heyman's video package on Raw was bloody delightful.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
It was a horrible segment, tbf. Neither can act to save their life. They should be made tow atch Savage/Elizabeth clips to improve. I would be chanting to get them off the stage tbh!
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Two women that have worked their ass off to get to where they are and both good workers. The fans chant for a guy over and over that chose to walk out on the company by his own free will and doesn't plan on coming back anytime soon. It's almost as moronic as that time the fans started chanting 'boring' when Finlay and Regal were having a great match.
 
Not saying they are not good workers, but they are bad entertainers in this segment. There was nothing positive to chant about.

Again, not sure if serious on CM Punk. If you have access to WWE Network segment on CM Punk. Quite surprisingly, the segment is realistsic on how much he was ignored and pushed to back for not being 'WWE Material' despite talent. I can understand on why he walked out. I was just awed on how long he stayed and how much he achieved still...
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Not saying they are not good workers, but they are bad entertainers in this segment. There was nothing positive to chant about.

Again, not sure if serious on CM Punk. If you have access to WWE Network segment on CM Punk. Quite surprisingly, the segment is realistsic on how much he was ignored and pushed to back for not being 'WWE Material' despite talent. I can understand on why he walked out. I was just awed on how long he stayed and how much he achieved still...
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I wasn't taking a shot at Punk. He willingly walked out, that's well known. I'm not really aiming at this segment alone either, they've chanted this shit throughout the entire feud/story. The two could go out and have a five star match and yet a few would still chant "CM Punk". Just another annoying one to add to the "What!" chant that we have to put up with throughout 80% of promos.
 
@JP77 @Edgar Allan Pillow Can I just confirm you're both talking abut the Paige AJ segment. EAP's reference to neither being able to act makes me think Bellas. AJ is comfortably the best diva on the mic (Stephanie not included) and Paige has come on a fair bit.
 
JP77 said:
Yeah I was talking about AJ/Paige, think Edgar was too?
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Then I just can't agree with his saying neither can act. They're up to the standard you expect of wrestlers. The Belllas however...I wish they both died in the womb.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Seriously? I thought you were referring to the Bella's segment. :lol:

I like both Paige and Lee, though the skipping is getting quite annoying. Skipping backstage on the way to the ring, wtf?
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Nailed it.

You have to remember that if your on camera you're in character, so the backstage snippet is part of the entrance which means skipping.
 
The next weeks RAW is in Brooklyn and the ring side tickets are $160 min. :-(

I was just thinking of some of the possible matchup's for NoC and realized that most were plain and tasteless. Good in ring performance, but no strong rivalries or surprise title changes.

Uso's vs Gold/Star Dust
Cesaro vs Sheamus
AJ Lee vs Paige

No difference on who wins the title. All the same.

The only interesting bit seems to be Roman Reigns long list of rivalries to balance others...Orton for eventual title, Rollins + Kane to 'avenge' Ambrose. Not sure what they'll do with Bray in this mix.

Cena vs Lesnar will be worth the watch. Iw ant Cena to win it back. Lesnar is good wrestler, but if he is not goping to be there frequently, no point in hanging the title on him to rust. Cena gives lot more options for Bray or Reigns feud.

Hopefully no more RvD, Jericho.
 
Terrible RAW. I had to skip through most of it.

The opening segment is the worst thing I've seen this year. You have three legends, who all looked uncomfortable, selling Cena to us even though his credibility is never under question. Then out comes Cena - not selling the brutal attack by Lesnar - who cuts the same generic promo.

The final segment was meh. Bray Wyatt was not buried when he lost to Cena IMO - what happened was that he lost momentum and I think that has a lot to do with his gimmick (specifically his promos). I thought the Jericho feud would do him well. It hasn't. Even worse, after his win at SummerSlam, Cena absolutely dismantled him last night. Kind of makes sense, but I'm probably giving WWE Creative too much credit.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Cena vs Lesnar will be worth the watch. Iw ant Cena to win it back. Lesnar is good wrestler, but if he is not goping to be there frequently, no point in hanging the title on him to rust. Cena gives lot more options for Bray or Reigns feud.
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That's completely missing the point on why they've put it on Brock. The title is currently over saturated, the champion on every show means the belt becomes worthless. Brock not being there and only showing for major events adds prestige to him and the title.

It's no coincidence they've brought in the new title with Brock. They tried it with Rock last year but he didn't hold on to it long enough/perform well enough to cleanse the title.

Hopefully no more RvD, Jericho.
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RVD is gone. Jericho is staying around for a while longer yet.
 
phelans shorts said:
That's completely missing the point on why they've put it on Brock. The title is currently over saturated, the champion on every show means the belt becomes worthless. Brock not being there and only showing for major events adds prestige to him and the title.

It's no coincidence they've brought in the new title with Brock. They tried it with Rock last year but he didn't hold on to it long enough/perform well enough to cleanse the title.
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It's not always possible to give title for a part-time performer. The one who follows Lesnar will be a full time wrestler, so this 'temporary' change is pointless. I can agree with less title matches, but less presence of champion does not make sense. There is only so much a promo can cut it with the audience.

It waters down the RAW main event as...
- We know the main title will not change. So maybe one title match in 2 months and guranteed that Lesnar will win? Wheres the fun in that? No title, no challenger, no match, huh?
- We also know that Rollins will never cash in on Lesnar. So that takes away the 'when will Rollins cash in' dangler and frankly nneutralizes the whole purpose of MitB.

With Ambrose gone, there are no other storylines to keep audience interest. Lesnar floored Cena who in turn flattened Bray. They have painted themselves to a corner. No title change from Lesnar. No challenger other than Cena. Boring.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
It's not always possible to give title for a part-time performer. The one who follows Lesnar will be a full time wrestler, so this 'temporary' change is pointless. I can agree with less title matches, but less presence of champion does not make sense. There is only so much a promo can cut it with the audience.

It waters down the RAW main event as...
- We know the main title will not change. So maybe one title match in 2 months and guranteed that Lesnar will win? Wheres the fun in that? No title, no challenger, no match, huh?
- We also know that Rollins will never cash in on Lesnar. So that takes away the 'when will Rollins cash in' dangler and frankly nneutralizes the whole purpose of MitB.

With Ambrose gone, there are no other storylines to keep audience interest. Lesnar floored Cena who in turn flattened Bray. They have painted themselves to a corner. No title change from Lesnar. No challenger other than Cena. Boring.
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If the champions is on RAW every night your above points do not change. We know that the title won't change until PPV's mostly, and someone who just won the WWE WHC title isn't going to drop it the next night. They're not going to drop it for months at least, so whether he's on RAW or not changes nothing.

Also knowing that Rollins will never cash in on Lesnar means it still doesn't matter whether he's on RAW or not. He's still not going to do it.
 
Zarlak said:
If the champions is on RAW every night your above points do not change. We know that the title won't change until PPV's mostly, and someone who just won the WWE WHC title isn't going to drop it the next night. They're not going to drop it for months at least, so whether he's on RAW or not changes nothing.

Also knowing that Rollins will never cash in on Lesnar means it still doesn't matter whether he's on RAW or not. He's still not going to do it.
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It's not that Champion will only fight in a title match, right? I want Champions to be available more often than Lesnar, though not always fighting for the title. The fact that Lesnar will appear only once in a quarter (or so) and that too only for the title match is a bit of a stretch.

HHH from Mankind, Austin causing Hitman to drop title next day, Wade getinng it back from Miz...it's not unheard off to drop title in next RAW, though I do not expect that to happen with Lesnar.

Cena beats Lesnar and Rollins cashes in immediately to win it from Cena (CM Punk did it twice, iirc) and then Reigns taking it from Rollins would be the eventual flow, I believe. Maybe its too early for NoC, but it should happen this way.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
It's not that Champion will only fight in a title match, right? I want Champions to be available more often than Lesnar, though not always fighting for the title. The fact that Lesnar will appear only once in a quarter (or so) and that too only for the title match is a bit of a stretch.

HHH from Mankind, Austin causing Hitman to drop title next day, Wade getinng it back from Miz...it's not unheard off to drop title in next RAW, though I do not expect that to happen with Lesnar.

Cena beats Lesnar and Rollins cashes in immediately to win it from Cena (CM Punk did it twice, iirc) and then Reigns taking it from Rollins would be the eventual flow, I believe. Maybe its too early for NoC, but it should happen this way.
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Why wouldn't Rollins cash in on Lesnar?

Why would Cena beat Brock?

It makes zero sense. Hogan never appeared on weekly television when he was with the WWF. It never hindered him or his popularity.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
It's not that Champion will only fight in a title match, right? I want Champions to be available more often than Lesnar, though not always fighting for the title. The fact that Lesnar will appear only once in a quarter (or so) and that too only for the title match is a bit of a stretch.

HHH from Mankind, Austin causing Hitman to drop title next day, Wade getinng it back from Miz...it's not unheard off to drop title in next RAW, though I do not expect that to happen with Lesnar.

Cena beats Lesnar and Rollins cashes in immediately to win it from Cena (CM Punk did it twice, iirc) and then Reigns taking it from Rollins would be the eventual flow, I believe. Maybe its too early for NoC, but it should happen this way.
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That's like twice in twenty years.

As phelans said, the champion being on TV every week is a new thing and it's bad IMO. The title being defended at a ppv isn't special if you've seen it four times in the last month already on free TV. You can also gauge whether someone's going to lose a belt by their results the last few weeks, it's better this way where you have no idea because it's just all been build up.
 
Frankly, there's a lack of talent at the moment and they can't seen to come up with creative story lines. Reigns doesn't have "it" whereas as Ambrose does. Rollins is a great heel and I could watch Rollins v. Ambrose as the center piece for the next ten years because they're able to portray bigger than life characters.

No clue why they're slowly killing the Bray character. He's one of the best they've done in a while.

Tag Team division needs to be revamped desperately. Usos are boring as hell, and WWE barely pushes the tag team champions. It's an after thought like the US championship. Too many wrestlers in the stable that add nothing.

Cena might be a great act but he's the best act because there isn't anyone else. WWE needs to find some more charismatic wrestlers and fast and need to work some long term plot lines that take time to develop.

Right now it feels like everything is written just for the next PPV and only a few things have long term planning behind them.
 
The Usos are brilliant, they were in a match of the year contender at Battleground against The Wyatts and consistently put on good matches despite the division being in a state.
 
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