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TheShedEnd said:
Told you. Lesnar now needs to turn face and sharpish. Go against the Authority because that's the only way he's losing the belt, by getting screwed out of it.

He's the most physically dominating superstar there has ever been in the wrestling business, and that includes Goldberg. Reigns is no way near good enough to main event for it at the moment.

Perhaps The Rock will return for a match against him, make up for getting beat in 2002(!). Shame Batista isn't around, I'd have liked to have seen Lesnar hand him a similar beating to the one he just gave Cena.

On another note, not a fan of Cena since his gimmick became essentially a glorified fan, but I've a lot of respect for him, don't like hearing all those boos he gets week in week out, totally unjustified when there are much worse talents around in the Wwe right now.
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Lesnar will not turn face. Ever. Him being screwed out of it ruins all the hard work they've put into him this year.

Big Dave will face him at the Rumble. Probably put up more of a match than Cena did last night but not much.

I would be all for 18 months of this Brock killing guys with the belt. Whoever beats his has a massive task as the big dog, and there's no way Roman Reigns is ready anytime soon.

Edit: as for the Rock, why the feck would you take the strap off of Brock to give it to him? At least Brock has the decency to be in shape and put on really good matches when he turns up.
 
Reigns Or Bryan has to win the title of Brock at WM (a year on from Brock ending the streak). Brock also had to win the title, was the next logical step after ending the streak.

Summerslam was excellent and makes Raw very fascinating. Reigns gets better and better in the ring IMO. Even his promos are getting better. Hes not quite "there" but hes got a huge upside. And WM is around 7-8 months away which means enough time for Reigns to keep improving. Win the Rumble, face Brock and beat him which will make Reigns.
 
In kayfabe terms, when was the last time a wrestler was as powerful as Brock is right now? Hogan before WM6 maybe?
 
phelans shorts said:
Lesnar will not turn face. Ever. Him being screwed out of it ruins all the hard work they've put into him this year.
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Hardly. Lesnar's just destroyed the poster boy of the WWE, in his first match having squashed Undertaker and ended his streak at Wrestlemania. Whoever he loses to now it needs to be pretty convincing if it's clean. He lost his first title when Paul Heyman screwed him out of it against Big Show a decade ago, something similar will happen for him to lose it again, and going against the Authority is a safe way for it to happen. Can you imagine Bryan coming back and beating him? Or one of the other legions of short arses in the company? No.

phelans shorts said:
Edit: as for the Rock, why the feck would you take the strap off of Brock to give it to him? At least Brock has the decency to be in shape and put on really good matches when he turns up.
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I wouldn't, but before Mania there was talk of The Rock facing him. In any case, you're wrong about him, whenever he's returned to particpate in matches he's looked absoloutely fine. Always in shape and looks like he's never been away. Bottom line though, there's hardly anyone in the company who you'd think can just take the title of Brock now. The Rock is one of them though, and he can just as easily lose it.
 
Kazi said:
In kayfabe terms, when was the last time a wrestler was as powerful as Brock is right now? Hogan before WM6 maybe?
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There's been plenty. Lesnar is a freak though. He's the all round package. Never seen someone with that kind of explosive power, speed, agility and with the wrestling ability to boot.
 
Shane88 said:
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Any why wouldn't he?
 
Kazi said:
In kayfabe terms, when was the last time a wrestler was as powerful as Brock is right now? Hogan before WM6 maybe?
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Rock came close up until Mania last year. Beat Punk, Cena in prime super Cena years and Miz when he was still relevant. The kids who will have been about 10 when he came back won't have even remebered him losing to Goldberg and would have viewed him as some sort of unstoppable beast
 
TheShedEnd said:
Hardly. Lesnar's just destroyed the poster boy of the WWE, in his first match having squashed Undertaker and ended his streak at Wrestlemania. Whoever he loses to now it needs to be pretty convincing if it's clean. He lost his first title when Paul Heyman screwed him out of it against Big Show a decade ago, something similar will happen for him to lose it again, and going against the Authority is a safe way for it to happen. Can you imagine Bryan coming back and beating him? Or one of the other legions of short arses in the company? No.
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You sound exactly like Vince of ten years ago with his bodybuilder fetish. Can someone smaller beat him? Absolutely. You name checked Daniel Bryan, a man who only 2 weeks ago, with the use of one arm stopped two burglars at his house, detaining one. Can I believe that a fully healthy Daniel Bryan can take down men much larger than himself in real life? Absolutely.

Brock being screwed makes whoever does beat him tainted. This monster should be taken down clean, making the biggest star in a long time instantly.

I wouldn't, but before Mania there was talk of The Rock facing him. In any case, you're wrong about him, whenever he's returned to particpate in matches he's looked absoloutely fine. Always in shape and looks like he's never been away. Bottom line though, there's hardly anyone in the company who you'd think can just take the title of Brock now. The Rock is one of them though, and he can just as easily lose it.
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As for Rock every match since his return was horrendous with him gassed before the match even began. He managed to have two bad matches with Punk who genuinely was the best in the world at the time, he dragged good matches out of Ryback FFS.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
The Authority may step back in and give this to Rollins (with outside help ofc) as they would not want the belt outside of their influence. This would get old Shield/Authority feud re-ignited with Lesnar as wildcard.
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Rollins won't be winning the title any time soon. I'd imagine he will attempt a cash in on Reigns after Wrestlemania. There is no way he will cash in on Lesnar. I haven't seen SS yet, but even before hand I said that Lesnar would win it at SS and go on a dominating run until WM, but after taking the streak, the biggest achievement probably in wrestling, and having heard the manner in which he apparently destroyed Cena, there is no way they will put it on someone else just like that.
 
Zarlak said:
Rollins won't be winning the title any time soon. I'd imagine he will attempt a cash in on Reigns after Wrestlemania. There is no way he will cash in on Lesnar. I haven't seen SS yet, but even before hand I said that Lesnar would win it at SS and go on a dominating run until WM, but after taking the streak, the biggest achievement probably in wrestling, and having heard the manner in which he apparently destroyed Cena, there is no way they will put it on someone else just like that.
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Cena may as well have shown up dressed as the Boston Brawler.
 
I don't see anyone else challenging Lesnar anytime soon. MAybe they will get Cena to do a rematch in NoC, which he will lose, but in a more even manner. Redemption.

I would say Regine will be facing Orton again and then HHH before he manages to get into Lesnar....and that is a big ask.
 
WWE will use a fatal four way to beat Lesnar if they need to .... There's no one on the card that could provide a good 1v1 right now. Reigns is too raw.

The only angles I can see are a no DQ match with Bray Wyatt or Dean Ambrose or Triple Threat/Fatal Fourway or kayfabe story that bans Lesnar for some reason.

Maybe a Bautista/Rock return but both those storylines would be weak.
 
Reigns may be "raw" but WM is ages away and by then Reigns will be fine. His match with orton was brilliant and I think WWE can put together a great brawl between Brock and Reigns at WM if needed.

Brock vs Reigns or
Brock vs Bryan should be the way they are going for WM.

Either men should beat Brock clean for the title as it will make the winner look mad strong given what Brock has done since his return (bar that ego fest loss to HHH at WM)

Id have Brock beat Orton/Sheamus/Batista at NOC/ Survivor Series / Rumble just to add to his list of names.

Wonder if this is one and done for Stephanie Mcmahon. She had no right to have as good a match as she did. And she looked fantastic on top of that. Obviously Brie played her part in that so wondering if they just do Bella vs Bella (and will it be a rollins type deal or one she was forced to do it cos when she walked out she looked sad so im thinking latter)
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
The Authority may step back in and give this to Rollins (with outside help ofc) as they would not want the belt outside of their influence. This would get old Shield/Authority feud re-ignited with Lesnar as wildcard.
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Is it not all fixed, and they can do entirely what they?
 
I think Reigns is certainly ear marked to replace Cena but I am starting to think Mania 31 might be to soon for him. He had a decent match last night with Orton but his inexperience and limits are highlighted a lot more now he's not in a stable which concealed those weaknesses and accentuated his strengths.

For me, the same is true for the rest of the up and comers. There's no one I think that's tailored made for that spot yet. That's why I would not rule out Bryan coming back in January and having that Mania match with Lesnar. He would be a safer bet than Reigns to deliver at the moment and his injury means he never fully rode the way of his popularity. They have other options as well.

I like Reigns as well but think it might be all a bit to soon for him.
 
There is potential for Orton turning face. Orton is pissed off with HHH for being denied the tile shot. Roman can make a deal with Orton and screw up Rollins, with Orton taking the title match (which Reigns will win cleanly).

This would be the ultimate Plan c Orton moving this way to counter Rollins. What a three man tag that would be, HHH/Batista/Rollins vs Reigns/Ambrose/Orton. Delicious!
 
There's a lot of possibilities with Brock. Have a feeling he may face Batista before Wrestlemania.

But have a feeling this is building up for Rock vs Brock. Which would be ashame as I would rather give it to Ambrose, Reigns or Bryan. I hope they don't drop Ambrose to mid-card after his feud with Rollins.
 
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