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Ambrose v Rollins is the only thing that's kept me going recently.I was thinking of Reigns (and Ambrose) against Rollins.
I hope not. That would be a waste of Lesnar.
Lesnar needs to be champion until Wrestlemania.
Lesnar needs to be champion until Wrestlemania.
Why would rollins help cena win and then cash it on him? Makes no sense.
Brock should keep it for yonks. No point in undoing everything he's done so quickly. Cena+Rollins isn't enough to end this reigns, should be used to genuinely put someone over in a heroic way.....not fecking Reigns either, he's good for a biggie, but mediocre on the grand scale, but they are insistent on brute forcing over, which will kill him.
Raw after WM: Reigns gets boo'ed, Ambrose will be made with enormous reactions.....despite Reigns leaving WM31 as the face champ.
Raw after WM: Reigns gets boo'ed, Ambrose will be made with enormous reactions.....despite Reigns leaving WM31 as the face champ.
Anyone else sick of seeing Reigns destroy everyone every fecking week?
Ring apron dropkick, Superman punch "Awooooo" Spear.
Precisely. He's fastly becoming another Cena and is boring as feck. Should have never turned him face, at least not so soon.
Reigns has a long way to go before he becomes a wrestler that I enjoy watching and that's mostly because of his move set and lack of charisma. When he had Ambrose and Rollins with him, he could get away with a limited move set, but as a singles competitor you need more and there are a few things that certainly need refining. WWE are protecting him and that's understandable not only because he's seen as the next top guy in the company but also because he lacks experience. He has kept the same attire, entrance, theme music, and the "Believe that" phrase.
What's disappointing thus far is that he's not making full use of the opportunity, it feels like he's merely accepted his current role (like a robot) but he's not doing anything worthwhile with it. For instance on RAW this week, he was awful on the mic: he sounded monotone and didn't offer any conviction. No doubt he has a great look, but he needs to be more of an all-rounder.
WTF has happened to Kane again? 2001 Kane would steamroll Reigns without any effort whatsoever.
He's the ultimate jobber now, but given his age, that's to be expected. He's still there to put young talent over, just like Jericho, RVD etc.
13 years.
Reigns is the next Cena. So no time to mature. He has probably until WM.
He lacks and color and I fecking hate Superman Punch.
Kane is a great guy to have around. He puts over people with no fuss unlike a lot of the other top wrestlers.
I was disappointed when he returned with the mask. I loved his character in 1997, when he didn't talk and just destroyed everything.
I reckon Kane was best when he was World Heavyweight Champion, during that storyline where he was hunting down who attacked The Undertaker (obviously it ended up being him anyway).
I wish Ambrose was next champion. He is better than Rollins and Reigns and the only one with a character of his own.
He's doing more damage than good at this stage. Fans don't give a toss about Kane anymore with his monthly character changes; Masked Kane, Demon Kane, Corporate Kane and he loses all the time. A wrestler being put in a feud with Kane is a mixed blessing, they're going over but the crowd won't give a shit.
2001 Kane was the best Kane.
Watching wrestling for the first time in ages, the feck has happened to Kane?? his character looks to have been completely ditched. Meh that's retarded, he's got black pants and and drop kicking people in the face.
I imagine that they are doing what they are with Kane because once he is done as an in-ring performer, which could well be not too far away, then maybe they can at least keep him on tv without the limitations of his gimmick.
I dont get the complaints about Reigns. Seems like hes being bitched on cos they are priming him for a top spot. he doesnt need to be the most technically gifted star either, its clear he has "It". Theres also nothing wrong with trademark moves which get the crowd into it. Super man punch and Spear clearly do that. He has plenty of time to improve between now and WM. Him vs Brock (if both are legit unbeaten monsters) could be huge for WWE as main event.
The only other story that would work would be Bryan returning, winning the Rumble and being the one to face Brock at WM.
Cena winning then getting cashed in on by Rollins would be boring.
The only other story that would work would be Bryan returning, winning the Rumble and being the one to face Brock at WM.
Cena winning then getting cashed in on by Rollins would be boring.
[Keegan] I would absolutely love it if Bryan was the one to beat Lesnar at Mania. It'd be great for a lot of reasons but it'd also bring the 'B+ player' saga to an end by defeating the monster that is Brock Lesnar on the biggest stage, leaving no (kayfabe - Authority) argument to contest his place in the elite modern superstars.
I'm not a big fan of the whole face swapping thing, but these are quite good 
Swagger absolutely needs that beard.
Lesnar/Heyman looks like an aged Nicklas Bendtner.
Indeed, though I really don't get why fans are so obsessed with who gets pushed or not.
Back when I watched it regularly it was just enjoying the show, couldn't care who was in the title picture or not. Didn't care if an upcoming star got 'buried' either.
It's actually ruined watching it for me. The talent pool may be weaker but the fans are no better. I blame the internet.
Sorry I dont follow too much WWE but I hear that Sting is finally signed by them? Is he competing? and who against? Would have been good to let Taker have his record at Wrestlemania to put it on the line against the Stinger but I guess they already wasted that one...
He's terrible in the ring mate. His match against Orton at Summerslam was dreadful, he did nothing until the last 5 minutes. He doesn't have the stamina to be involved in top matches. I also don't see this "IT" factor. He's losing popularity. His pops aren't even close to those he was receiving a couple of months ago. WWE clearly wanted him to be the guy to beat Lesnar, but I can't see it now. He isn't popular enough to beat Lesnar. I can only see it getting worse as it's clear he's incapable of a good singles match (unless maybe pitted against an elite wrestler like Bryan for instance). His finishing series of moves is fine, but he has to do more than just those in the entire match. Nobody wants to see the same thing every single match. It's boring.
Honestly, it looks like Rollins and Ambrose will be WWE's next true main eventers. Both are excelling in their roles and getting the desired reactions. They are also both great in the ring (especially Rollins) and have amazing chemistry. They could very easily be built as this new era's Rock and Austin.
There are a few ways they could go with Lesnar losing the title at Mania. Bryan is an obvious one. The Rock is a possibility (even though I wouldn't like that). And I'm not saying it will happen, but if Punk was ever to consider returning, a main event spot at Wrestlemania (the thing he always stated he wanted to do before he retired) and winning the title off the dominant champion, making him the true top guy at that time, would be the only reason I could see for it and it wouldn't be too surprising to see Punk returning at the Rumble if promised this. There aren't many who could realistically beat Lesnar and truthfully when watching their match at Summerslam it's clear Punk is one who could do it credibly. Bryan would be perfect if not for the severity of his injuries. Not sure WWE will be willing to risk putting the titles on him considering this.
Reigns will likely remain their first option for at least another 2 months, but if he hasn't regained his popularity at that stage, I can't see them going through with it. It would just hurt ratings. Plus the match would be terrible. Likely another Brock vs Goldberg
.He's terrible in the ring mate. His match against Orton at Summerslam was dreadful, he did nothing until the last 5 minutes. He doesn't have the stamina to be involved in top matches. I also don't see this "IT" factor. He's losing popularity. His pops aren't even close to those he was receiving a couple of months ago. WWE clearly wanted him to be the guy to beat Lesnar, but I can't see it now. He isn't popular enough to beat Lesnar. I can only see it getting worse as it's clear he's incapable of a good singles match (unless maybe pitted against an elite wrestler like Bryan for instance). His finishing series of moves is fine, but he has to do more than just those in the entire match. Nobody wants to see the same thing every single match. It's boring.
Honestly, it looks like Rollins and Ambrose will be WWE's next true main eventers. Both are excelling in their roles and getting the desired reactions. They are also both great in the ring (especially Rollins) and have amazing chemistry. They could very easily be built as this new era's Rock and Austin.
There are a few ways they could go with Lesnar losing the title at Mania. Bryan is an obvious one. The Rock is a possibility (even though I wouldn't like that). And I'm not saying it will happen, but if Punk was ever to consider returning, a main event spot at Wrestlemania (the thing he always stated he wanted to do before he retired) and winning the title off the dominant champion, making him the true top guy at that time, would be the only reason I could see for it and it wouldn't be too surprising to see Punk returning at the Rumble if promised this. There aren't many who could realistically beat Lesnar and truthfully when watching their match at Summerslam it's clear Punk is one who could do it credibly. Bryan would be perfect if not for the severity of his injuries. Not sure WWE will be willing to risk putting the titles on him considering this.
Reigns will likely remain their first option for at least another 2 months, but if he hasn't regained his popularity at that stage, I can't see them going through with it. It would just hurt ratings. Plus the match would be terrible. Likely another Brock vs Goldberg
I don't think Bryan or Punk will do it. Punk already lost to Taker, so having him beat Lesnar is completely and utterly pointless as the point of Lesnar getting beaten is that the winner gets the rub of taking down the monster that beat the Undertakers streak.
Bryan is also unrealistic, he is a chaser, and had momentum during the chase. People wanted to see him overcome the odds, but if he held the title for any length of time people would lose interest and turn on him. The same way they do with most top guys who end up on top for a while. The champion will be shoved down our throats with the exception of Lesnar due to his contract dates. People complain about Cena's 5 moves of doom, Punk also only has 5 moves of doom now, as does Bryan, as does Orton, as will Reigns. Yes they're all capable of far more, but the WWE protects them because they're future investments. All their move sets have been scaled back. They all have their little rotations they go through one move to the next to the next to the next to the call for finisher to the finisher. The crowd will always start to shit on the champion because they get sick of it. WWE have started it early with Reigns because they're so heavily invested in him.
I don't think Reigns would be a boring match with Lesnar. It would be a good match to see two big guys go against each other. Brock/Goldberg would have been a great match up had it not been for them both leaving and the crowd knowing it and shitting on the whole thing no matter what. Watching Lesnar snap Bryan in half would not be fun, nor believable, especially after the surgery he's had/is having.
Bryan could work cos hes a wrestler and a submission master. That would work if done right.
I dont get the Reigns hate. His match vs Orton wasnt deadful. He didnt get a great reaction against rollins last Raw cos it was Rollins home state. But he still got cheered as he always does. They havent made him into a standard face like they do with most guys. He looks like a legit badass who wants to come out and just punch you in the face which would work in a build with Brock. Id be excited for that match as im sure others would be too (well cept those who complain but would watch it anyway). :P
I dont get the Reigns hate. His match vs Orton wasnt deadful. He didnt get a great reaction against rollins last Raw cos it was Rollins home state. But he still got cheered as he always does. They havent made him into a standard face like they do with most guys. He looks like a legit badass who wants to come out and just punch you in the face which would work in a build with Brock. Id be excited for that match as im sure others would be too (well cept those who complain but would watch it anyway). :P
The way that they're building Brock, you can't have him defeated by someone like Bryan, slowly wearing him down and making him submit. It would be the most boring and anticlimactic fight ever. A monster like Brock needs to be destroyed for it to be credible. Not a technicality, or a fluke, or something as boring as having his monster style nullified by a slow wearing down.
So four superman punches? They should build sheamus or cesaro up and have an all out brawl with him or have rusev absolutely destroy henry and then go after lesnar. Sadly that wont happen but would be an awesome fight.
Apparently Big Show will face Brock after Cena.
I would prefer Heel Orton trying to take down Brock. I don't think they have ever feuded. Where as Brock vs Big Show has been done 100 times. Including early this year.
I would prefer Heel Orton trying to take down Brock. I don't think they have ever feuded. Where as Brock vs Big Show has been done 100 times. Including early this year.
Orton as he is now vs Brock would interest me. As would a brawl between Sheamus and Brock.
Bryan wouldnt be a wear him down slowly match, it would be all fast paced stuff from Bryan but similar to Punks match with him.
I do agree Brock needs to be taken down and pinned though.
Bryan wouldnt be a wear him down slowly match, it would be all fast paced stuff from Bryan but similar to Punks match with him.
I do agree Brock needs to be taken down and pinned though.
I feel the opposite, I think they should have brock as a monster heel for two years and let him go undefeated during that run. Have him win at this WM and lose the title on the next one.
I still think Cena would win. After being the poster boy for so long, they would not let Cena die off silently. He would get his revenge and then drop to Reigns at WM.
Cena will lose.
If Bryan was to beat him, the surroundings would have to be perfect. WrestleMania, 80,000 people behind Bryan, Bryan with the crowd behind him becomes an unstoppable force, occasion gets the best of Lesnar. Even then, it's still not believable. Besides, I think Bryan's popularity peaked at WM30. If it wasn't for his injury, I'm sure a small proportion of the crowd would have already turned on him.