Yeah, but the majority are astronomical.
Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich
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Yeah, but the majority are astronomical.
Indeed. So everyone saying he is for sale because of the release clause isn't really the same as being for sale because (a) He wants to go or (b) His club want to sell him, as in he is.. for sale.
Well, his release clause is €18m which can easily be matched by a number of European sides. Some players have insane clauses like €70m though put in there to prevent them from being sold without negotiations.
Another example would be Fabregas, who apparently has a €200 million release clause.
Whilst true, I don't really think it means he is for sale unless the club actually want to sell him.
Anyway, it's all pedantic. I'd love to have him at the club, he's got huge potential and would immediately improve us.
He isn't for sale. He's available though, and ultimately it's up to the player if he should leave or not. I'd imagine his agent has been sounded out by clubs across Europe, if he gives the go ahead before August then there's nothing Barcelona can do to prevent him leaving.
Who is saying he's for sale because of the release clause? I don't get what the issue is here. The most anyone ha to pay is £16 mill, and he apparently wants to leave. Barca and their wishes don't really come into the equation. Having said that, this whole Thiago to United rumour began a few weeks ago because Mundo Deportivo did a 4 page spread in which they say Barcelona have put Thiago on the market. The news of the release clause only came out later.
You're using Betfair as a yard stick?
Take a little look over at Sky and see what markets they have. Think you might know where Kone is going? Robinho? Shelvy? Tello? Danny Rose? Yup they've got them and about 50+ other's too with mutliple options for each club.
Paddy Power? Fellaini, Rooney, Kaka, Terry ect ect ect all with multiple club options for each player.
Of course it's worth millions, people love to bet and if they think they have an inkling of where a player is going they'll back them especially with no football on.
Its an industry where they have to constantly look to gain the upper hand with whatever knowledge they can get. With the Horses they check a huge amount of data and get as much inside knowledge as possible with a bit of cash flowing into the hands of vets to find out conditions of the horses to checking the potential weather.
Yet you don't think they are going to protect their money by keeping in touch with agents, friends of the family, club insiders ect ect. Nah they just read The Sun
Of course he's using Betfair as a yard stick, it shows what people are interested in. If they thought betting on transfers was attractive to people they'd put all the markets in place, it simply isn't. Do you know a single person who has put serious amount of money on a player moving somewhere?
There's absolutely no chance that an agent or a family member is giving any sort of serious information to a bookie either. If press can't even get a hint most of the time with all the connections they have, there's no way a bookie would get anything.
Previously, both MD & Sport were similar in their accuracy of club matters but under Rosell, for me, MD is the one that seems to be a tool used by the club to carry out their bidding. For what it's worth, I find Sport less accurate these days.
This question has already been asked quite a bit over the last month, I can see transfer excitement is in full swing.No idea, as I've already said a few times now, we won't know until the 18th, at the earliest. No new information has come out but if you're as obsessed with Thiago's plight as I am, glean what you can from MD & RAC1 - reading between the lines. English media will be unreliable. Twitter might have some rumour that proves to be fairly accurate but you'll have a hard time knowing it. There are too many parties with vested interests who will disseminate info that can't be corroborated until the 18th. I'd wait to hear from Thiago
Ah, I can't wait this long.
What steeeb said.. His release clause dropped which has brought about where we are today. On approaching Barca we would have had to negotiate because no way was we going to trigger the 90m euros.
He's probably seen the English team at the tournament and doesn't think he'll make the grade over here. It's off
It all just makes too much sense really doesn't it?.
I mean we are on the look out for midfield reinforcements, somebody who is young, can fit in right away and is potentially top class.
Somebody who is not too expensive, and somebody who is good at retaining possession.
Step up Mr Alcantara - for a grand sum of 18 million euros, makes too much sense.
I mean we are on the look out for midfield reinforcements, somebody who is young, can fit in right away and is potentially top class.
Somebody who is not too expensive, and somebody who is good at retaining possession.
Step up Mr Alcantara - for a grand sum of 18 million euros, makes too much sense.
I thought it was based on minutes. Nonetheless, I see what you mean now. Release clause still present but much more expensive.
Thank you for clearing it up.
don't normally go in for this kind of muppetry but
Please please please please please please please please please let this happen
Please please please please please please please please please let this happen
Of course the press can get a hint. They usually know what transfer deals are going to happen and when, it's just that they dilute that knowledge with a huge amount of bullshit that they make up which gives them a really bad name. Look at the actual transfers that happen, most of the papers have known about them for weeks and been running articles on it. It's only because they make up so much to sell papers that you can't trust every word they say.
It's too real. No, no it can't be true.
I would agree with you Pex but how did the papers know Lucas would suddenly decide to choose PSG over us? From my understanding, he was pretty close to signing for us. I'm not saying they don't know what's going on but more so, transfers are hard to predict because of all the vested interests from various parties.
Of course its too real to be true. Fellaini for £24million makes more sense.
Nah, we're getting Thiago. It's happening, I can feel it.
We should go football manager on his ass. 5 year contract. Whatever Barca gives him plus 10k and bonuses galore.
Point out - in scrupulous detail - the similarities between this and the De Gea deal, KM. We need hope.
I reckon we're signing this lad.
I refuse to believe it, we're trying to sign a CM
You're using Betfair as a yard stick?
Take a little look over at Sky and see what markets they have. Think you might know where Kone is going? Robinho? Shelvy? Tello? Danny Rose? Yup they've got them and about 50+ other's too with mutliple options for each club.
Paddy Power? Fellaini, Rooney, Kaka, Terry ect ect ect all with multiple club options for each player.
Of course it's worth millions, people love to bet and if they think they have an inkling of where a player is going they'll back them especially with no football on.
Its an industry where they have to constantly look to gain the upper hand with whatever knowledge they can get. With the Horses they check a huge amount of data and get as much inside knowledge as possible with a bit of cash flowing into the hands of vets to find out conditions of the horses to checking the potential weather.
Yet you don't think they are going to protect their money by keeping in touch with agents, friends of the family, club insiders ect ect. Nah they just read The Sun
Of course I use Betfair as a yardstick. Betfair are the single most important betting company as they determine 100% lines from pure punters, as opposed to bookie's who add margin to everything.
You think transfer markets are worth millions and millions,a and that they are footballs punters source of betting during the summer. If this is such an important market, then why do only Skybet, PP, WH, SJ, BV and Ladbrokes offer it? If it is so big and important, what aren't big bookie's like Bet365, Boyle's, Totesport, Betfred, Sportingbet, 188, youwin, Coral betway etc all offering it? And yet every single one of them are offering odds on the Spanish second division tonight. But surely the Spanish second division couldn't be more important than these multi million pound markets where the traders are keeping in touch with agents, friends of the family, press etc!
Yopu really haven't a clue about gambling. Here i'll do a little experiment. This is the Skybet Thiago market https://www.skybet.com/football/transfer-specials/event/15261012. I'm a restricted customer with Sky and they allow me tiny bets on. There hasn't been a sniff about him going to Spurs and that's currently 33/1. I bet I can make them cut that 33/1 by having a tiny bet on (less than 2 quid)
Plays in La Liga, release clause under 20 million, quiet on the rumour front etc.
My god he's gone down to 4/1.
Oh no, that's Real Madrid.
Oh no, that's Real Madrid.
Had this been any other club than Barca, then I'd have a small hope. I know he's not a real Catalan, but I just can't see many players wanting away from that club.
Would be so sweet though.
Would be so sweet though.
Link?
might be something to do with all this media speculation and constant reports of our interest.
Him not being Catalan and being a CM trying to get into that midfield is why there's any hope to the transfer.
He's ridiculously good this lad.
Why do people say we don't try and sign cm's? Fergie has been burnt so many times he decided to focus on other areas and the team was still competitive and winning. What quality cm have we missed out on in the last 3 years?
Vidal, Modric and arguably Dembele.
Martinez?
Dembele?
Sneijder?
Modric?
Yaya Toure before all of them?
There's been loads of available CM's that we could of gone for
He certainly tried if thats what you're asking joe. Doesn't Sniejdergate ring a bell?
It's ok, we won't miss out on this one. He's the best option we've had for years in this position and it's looking likely to happen. We're going to land on our feet with this one.
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