Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich
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So it's only the player who we need to convince? Who else has he been linked with apart from United? Real Madrid, Milan, and City?
Madrid are the most strongly linked, and the only club to officially talk about the player this summer, although they haven't actually said that they're trying to sign him yet. We are the only other club to be linked by a number of different sources, but in line with usual policy the club hasn't made any statements about potential transfers.
It does seem mad that Barca haven't tried harder to prevent this situation developing. I know you shouldn't let contract situations influence team selection, normally, but really it's only been a somewhat lacklustre Fabregas keeping Thiago out of the team this season. Make their game time just a little more equal, and you make certain of keeping a player who is a decent bet to be one of the best midfielders in the world in a few years.
I seriously hope we're in for him, at least. Money is not a problem - he's the steal of the summer, financially. From what FCBarca says, it sounds unlikely that he'd go to Madrid. I think there's a big chance that he'll be staying with Barca, but we should be doing everything in our power to ensure that we're the other choice.
I'm with this guy.
We if you believe the inside stories.. We've bid for him in the past and predicted that Fabregas's arrival would limit his play and development... With this in mind i'm sure he's a top target we will be trying hard to cop.
Ugh!! This is the hart part. According to reports Madrid is not an option (atm), City have bought a new Brazilian midfielder and have Yaya in this role but that will not prevent them from buying more if they want so they are probably in the race, Milan and Juve is always a good option for a young Latin player but if he want's to move away from Barca and getting playing time on highest level then United suit him very well. We desperately need midfield quality and he would be a nailed starter together with Carrick if he adapt to the PL and plays on the same level for us as he do for Spains U-21 team and Barca. Give him the salary he want's and give his father a signing fee that makes him shout up and the deal is ours. I don't want another Hazard story all over again when the player change his mind in the last second.
This Spain U23 team is much more exciting than the Spain team. Alcantara as always brilliant.
Then you didn't watch the match. It was a borefest.
No, I didn't. Just those highlights. Anyway, the team looks more direct, crosses a lot and isn't afraid to shoot from distance. While the Spain team only pass, pass, pass, backpass, pass and then pass again. Cycle repeated.
Theres always one of these threads. Every summer, must be the sun. Without fail people seem to get lured in every silly season.
Yeah. Or, you know, the transfer window. This is a forum. What do you think goes on here? We talk about stuff, generally.
What the hell does that mean?
Would he? In what role exactly? They needed a more defensive minded cm beside Ramires not a Thiago.
Without dreams we are nothing.
This Thiago guy is probably the most talanted young prospect since Ronaldo. Who say no to dream about the hottest bird around?
Think he wanted to type "guyITK" which stands for "guy in the know" but ended up making it sound as though his bowels had exclusive information as to the transfer status of a football player
Chelsea don't need him at all, they have enough creavity with Oscar, Mata and Hazard, they have enough engine in Ramires and now all they need is for someone to finally replace Mikel.
Ahhh, that would make more sense. In that case I agree with Top. Banning is in order if he's giving us bum info.
Its gutITK as in he has no source other than his gut feeling.
I think he meant it like a "gut feeling", but his gut is an itk.
Great *** material, indeed. June 18th can't come soon enough.
Yes, his earlier post makes it clear he means that he's not actually itk, but just has a gut feeling.
In that video Thigao's starting position when he receives the ball is mostly quite deep, like a proper CM.
It's because he is a Center midfielder for them, think of it like he's a Xavi replacement for the u21's, and isco is iniesta's replacement. They basically played that way all game, and both being by far the two best players on the pitch. If he really does want to leave Barcelona, he'd be a perfect partner for Carrick, behind kagawa or Rooney.
He gave the ball away once in the entire game, and worked to win it back within seconds anyway.
Yeah I know, I was just mentioning it as many seem to still be under the impression that he couldn't play as a CM partner to Carrick and will only work as an AM ahead of two CM's.
When you consider the importance Barca put on bringing through youth players you realise there is no chance they'll sell Thiago and I see no indication that he would want to leave
it would be like us deciding to sell Giggs for no reason in the mid 90s
they got their fingers burned with Fabregas, Thiago is a better player than the likes of Song - why on earth would they sell him
he is brilliant and looks like he could be every bit as effective as guys like Fabregas
it would be like us deciding to sell Giggs for no reason in the mid 90s
they got their fingers burned with Fabregas, Thiago is a better player than the likes of Song - why on earth would they sell him
he is brilliant and looks like he could be every bit as effective as guys like Fabregas
They can't offer him everything he wants, if what he really wants is to replace Xavi in the center of midfield. They can't even offer him a timescale.
If you read the thread you'll find that Barca have no choice here...due to the existence of a minimum sellout clause.
He's got a release clause of 18m euros because he didn't get enough playing time, and because of that he is considering leaving. Barcelona can't do much about it, and Thiago has only had less playing time under Tito because he favors Cesc. What's to say he'll get a lot more next season? What he really wants is to be first choice pretty much, and with Xavi still as good as he is, and Fabregas second choice behind him, it doesn't look like he'll be first choice in the next few years. Unless they sell Fabregas, then I can see Thiago leaving for another club where he would be guaranteed to be a starter pretty much (like United).
I see - he would be my number 1 choice if we could make it happen - I'd be surprised if they didn't give him the assurances he wants
If he'd have chosen to play for Brazil instead of Spain, as he had the choice to, I bet he would be dubbed the new Ronaldhino. There's some strikingly similar play styles, especially with the shimmy of his hips that he does and the ball roll before he starts to dribble.
You'd think so but that hasn't been the case. Not through his minutes nor contract. It's as if the club are daring him to leave the nest. Pretty reckless if you ask me.
And I doubt very much that he'd ask something as impossible to give as that, here, much less at any club. Anyone demanding a timescale for anything is not talking about the biggest clubs.
This point has been brought up in the past but as his own mother has said in interviews, Brasilian Federation ignored their son which made playing for Spain fairly easy. Rafinha chose to look the other direction as he saw quite a queue of possibilities ahead of him for La Roja. Yet, can you imagine Brasil with Thiago running the midfield that is so desperate for a true #10?
What you're describing is true in general but the elite talents coming through the cantera are normally concerned about their place in the rotation & minutes. At an earlier stage with the club, a player like Cesc bolted for a combination of who he was behind and the fact that the club was not giving the youth much playing time. Thiago & Deulofeu are big talents and while Deulofeu is likely to be loaned out, he has resisted poaching from the usual clubs - he wants to succeed at his hometown club. Of course, Gerard is Catalan and Thiago is not. Thiago is a massive talent and with Cesc's return he had to be understandably concerned about his role at the club and after one season with Tito he saw his minutes dramatically decrease (Of course, he was also injured quite a bit too).
No one is certain whether he is legitimately considering leaving or this is gamesmanship for assurances of PT or contract improvements. He's a competitive lad who feels he's ready to make his mark in world football, just a question of whether that will be at the club or elsewhere. Don't think the club have handled it well at all (Among many things, unfortunately). 10 days to go before we hear anything new/credible
Oscar would certainly benefit hugely from having someone else truly top class in midfield with him. The pair of them together would be quite something.
Just as an aside on why did Barcelona "forget" to give him enough minutes. Roura was asked about it at a press conference and said that from a coaching staff point of view, "It's not our job to know everyone's contracts."
I actually think it might be as basic as that. The contract was signed in the Guardiola era. Vilanova had other things on his mind. I also suspect Rosell is every bit as dumb as he sounds when he's being interviewed and that he hires underlings who don't make him nervous by being too clever, so no one sent a memo to the coaching staff.
Of course I might be entirely wrong and I've just been seduced by the Laporta spin machine.
- Don't think so though
BTW - why does this software, like the old one hate the term P R? Apart from the obvious reason that everyone does?
I actually think it might be as basic as that. The contract was signed in the Guardiola era. Vilanova had other things on his mind. I also suspect Rosell is every bit as dumb as he sounds when he's being interviewed and that he hires underlings who don't make him nervous by being too clever, so no one sent a memo to the coaching staff.
Of course I might be entirely wrong and I've just been seduced by the Laporta spin machine.
- Don't think so though
BTW - why does this software, like the old one hate the term P R? Apart from the obvious reason that everyone does?
It didn't, but someone posted it in the 'Banned words' thread in the General and Hectic banned it. I don't see the harm in keeping it unbanned on here.
After watching some more of his videos I'm actually warming to the idea of signing him as partner for Carrick in CM. His defensive game seems fairly good. Let's sign him and Verratti and our midfield should be sorted for the future.
I think we can rule Chelsea out as an option - I can't see Barca letting a player strengthen a Mourinho team
Barca don't get to "let him go" - the buying club hands over the cash to the Spanish FA, the player signs a contract and it's game over.
They may tell him who they won't buy him back from, but I doubt that advice would stretch further than asking him not to go to Madrid.
That's the third time today you've posted something like this, despite being told repeatedly that Barca have no control over where the player goes. Do you read other people's posts?
So does that mean that if there's a buyout clause that we meet and agree personal terms that Barca have no power to put in a buyback clause?
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