I'm bored of this now, it all peaked too soon
That is what exactly happened. This is getting messy. I just want to get it done now.
Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich
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That is what exactly happened. This is getting messy. I just want to get it done now.
Typo fixed.
Maybe we'll get Barkley from Everton if Thiago has been using us all along. I doubt Everton would sell and he's probably still a year away from being ready for the premier league but he will be top class no doubt eventually
Welcome to my world, just with Higuain instead.
Fernandinho looks very good, and that gives them an option that isn't Barry or Milner. I'd consider that strengthening. A signing doesn't have to be as good as your very best player to be a good signing. I'm a big fan of Navas so it's a shame he's gone to City. They lack players who can truly operate out wide, and I think he will give them some consistency on the wing, and another area to attack instead of playing so narrow. Their business probably isn't done either, but that's two good signings that definitely improves them I think.
Schurrle is decent too from what I've seen, albeit not too much, but he's a very competent attacking option, and Van Ginkel is a player I wish we were in for, and he will only get better. Again, I don't think their business is done either, but still 2 good signings with alot of headroom for improvement.
Spurs' midfield options look quite clustered, but they have so many good options there now with Paulinho. I also don't think Bale will leave, but that's just speculative. It could certainly happen, but I don't see it. A centre forward and a defender will see them looking quite formidable.
And not just our title rivals, but European rivals too. Bayern have brought in Gotze, Madrid have gotten Isco, Barca look like they might snatch Thiago Silva. I think it would be unwise to get left behind and simply rest on the laurel that we won the league so we're in good shape. Our challengers were limp, but I don't think that will happen again, and even against 'lesser' teams in the Premier League, we were often barged out of the way in midfield with relative ease.
We have Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson, Giggs and Jones. That's 5 players capable of playing in midfield, they are all members of our squad who will be expecting to play. Scholes barely played last season and Fletcher didn't even start a game in Premier League if I remember correctly, not much has changed since.
Jones will get more game time as a RB and a CB I think. He'll play in midfield when he's on special duty to do a job a la Real Madrid this season.
Giggs will play as much on the wing, and be used sparingly. The only reason for him and Jones playing in CM so often is a lack of options.
Scholes played a lot during the first half of the season, then got injured.
Fletcher won't ever be a real option for us in any game of importance, sadly.
In short our three dedicated midfield options are Carrick, Cleverley and Anderson, with huge question marks over Anderson's ability to stay fit. That's frigtheningly thin.
I think we'll be fecked if we start another season with just these players and I reckon Carrick's legs will go if we keep using him in literally every single game but I can see how Moyes might not sign a midfielder. It's kind of our tradition.
Apart form Carrick, all of the other 4 have question marks over them (for different reasons).
There's a lot of pressure on Moyes to complete this deal. If not, he'll find fans on his back already.
Feck, I'm so tired of all this flacidness
Considering he is not the 1 in charge of making the actual transfers happen, I do not see why that's the case.
It would be Gills replacement who failed - not Moyes.
And for those that aren't Spanish?
You want a translation on the kids moobs?
Holiday breakfast?
Do you really think football fans will take that into consideration?
Speaking of Woodward, we haven't seen much of him so far, I would have expected him to appear on the Moyes presser tbh. Is he going to Asia with the squad or staying behind to sort out transfers?
Most of them will still be too busy rubbing their eyes, wondering why Fergie looks so young to even ask the question.
I don't see why anyone is going to be on Moyes' back given that he cant make Thiago's mind up for him. If the lad changes his mind it's out of Moyes' (Gill and Woodward's) control ffs.
Also the panicking is getting a bit silly. We don't know that all the clubs eggs are in the Thiago basket and if that goes tits up then were stuck with what we have do we? We might have other options being tied up. Fear not, Fellaini to the rescue
Also the panicking is getting a bit silly. We don't know that all the clubs eggs are in the Thiago basket and if that goes tits up then were stuck with what we have do we? We might have other options being tied up. Fear not, Fellaini to the rescue
There are plenty who had no thoughts of Thiago at United a couple of months ago who seem to think the club might as well shut down if, gasp, he decides to stay in beautiful Barcelona.
extended holiday after playing an after season tournament and were just waiting till hes home? Hell if I was on a the money these guys were on in be on holiday till the day before pre-season.
Like most on here I really want us to sign him.
But the idea of fans being on Moyes' back if we don't is ludicrous. Not sure if it was said in jest.
I went onto the Sky Sports website, and seen a picture of Thiago under the 'Transfer Updates' part. I got excited.....only to read he's been linked with Bayern
Hazard was similar, him going to Chelsea seemed to signal doom to United after he was hyped up to incredible levels in the transfer thread. Thiago would be a great signing but its not always the great signing that end up to be the most important ones. Vidic, Evra and even Carrick dint have people half as excited as this transfer and they were 3 fantastic signings.
I'm not sure this transfer is as much of a saga outside of threads like this tbh - SSN have hardly gone to town on it, and the tabloids are more interested in stirring things up with Rooney rather than giving constant updates on a player that in their eyes isn't "box office".
If the deal doesn't happen (like many are predicting) then would it really register that much with the average non-Caftard supporter enough for them to turn on Moyes?
If the deal doesn't happen (like many are predicting) then would it really register that much with the average non-Caftard supporter enough for them to turn on Moyes?
I think the thing that is worrying most this summer is that (barring a young lad who may or may not make it) there's been no one in and it's mid July. The Hazard saga of last year was after we had already signed Kagawa and Powell. The previous years Sneijder saga was after De Gea had signed on. We're normally very early for our signings and thats not the case this year. Its enough to give normally calm and considered caftards (is there such a thing?) the heeby-jeebies.
Don't forget out new manager has only been in the job just over a week. There was never going to be early business this summer. Also, Moyes commented on the fact there's been a lot of managerial changes so clubs will assess their squads and decide on potential transfers later than usual.
It's pretty unsettling that despite all the rumoured 'progress' from us being reported by other news sources, the first Sky Sports story on him for days is that Bayern are interested. Although i can't actually find the article on there about it.
Tbh Bayern have been "interested" or "keeping an eye on proceedings" for weeks as well. Nothing has happened on that front either. Nothing is happening at all.
Although, not sure if this has been posted:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-in-Manchester-United-s-pre-season-tour-squad
'There was no further news on possible moves for Everton left-back Leighton Baines and Barcelona midfielder Thiago Alcantara, but Moyes did say: "Don't be kidded by the lack of activity.
"Take it from me, we are working hard behind the scenes to try and improve the squad. The big thing is that Manchester United will always be in for the best players in the world.'
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-in-Manchester-United-s-pre-season-tour-squad
'There was no further news on possible moves for Everton left-back Leighton Baines and Barcelona midfielder Thiago Alcantara, but Moyes did say: "Don't be kidded by the lack of activity.
"Take it from me, we are working hard behind the scenes to try and improve the squad. The big thing is that Manchester United will always be in for the best players in the world.'
Summat ON, yes!
Sounds like the same generic bullshit we get every year.
Basically Moyes is saying we are signing Messi, Ronaldo and Iniesta - and they will join us after the tour.
feckING GAME ON.
feckING GAME ON.
Not really. The generic bullshit we used to get every year was "No value in the market" "Happy with the squad". It seemed quite rare that Fergie would say we were doing any kind of business.
'Being in for the best players in the world' isn't the same as actually signing them. Arsenal have possibly made a bid for Rooney, sure even Wigan could make a bid for Rooney. It means nothing unless the player actually agrees to sign for you though.
What else should he be saying then?
No, there'd be a "no doubt about that" at the end of the quote.
I agree, it's nice for Mr Moyes to let the muppets know that things are being done behind the scenes.
Yeh but what else can we do apart from go in for them? We can't force people to sign if they don't want to come. If Thiago doesn't come it'll be because he didn't want to i'm sure of it.
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