This was the most crazy window. That is arguably the best muppetry we have seen on this forum.
Even Sky Sports news got in on the act and speculated Moyes would introduce Thiago at his press conference
This was the most crazy window. That is arguably the best muppetry we have seen on this forum.
Really light midfield. Pogba doesn't do much defensive work and Tiago shouldn't be left on his own.Why?
He's been playing a holding role for Bayern, who were the best team in Europe this season?He’s a playmaker leaving us short of any shielding of the defence imo. Thiago, Pogba and Bruno would be exciting but leave us open in the bigger games.
He had much better support though.He's been playing a holding role for Bayern, who were the best team in Europe this season?
He's in my opinion, the best holding midfielder in the world and probably has another 3 years at the top. I think exceptions can be made in that regard, and also buys time to scout for such a player to pop up later down the line.Not sure about this. He’s a little older than the players we should be targeting. We need to be focused on a proper defensive midfielder for the long term. This would give us great depth though and he’s obviously a terrific player. The thing that would swing it for me would be the price tag which could be very low.
In many ways, he was the support. Bayern played countless vital passages through him.He had much better support though.
He‘d want to be a starter, not sure how we play Pogba, Bruno and Thiago.
Van De Beek would be a squad I guess.
Just won the treble with Bayern.....I just can’t see why he’d want to join United.
Think if we even hinted for a bid, Liverpool will pay up.If Wijnaldum does not agree to sign the extension and appears to be wanting to go to Barcelona then Thaigo will be liverpool player soon. We may have a chance only if Liverpool refuses to go for the price a bit like Werner
Who do you think was the DM in the UCL final
As others have said, it's way too weak defensively. In Bayern he had others doing way more defensive work in midfield than pogba will ever do.In many ways, he was the support. Bayern played countless vital passages through him.
He would shine anywhere, this argument that he doesn't suit Pogba and Bruno is really, really weird. On paper he suits them perfectly.
In fairness he's saying he's not sure why he'd want to go to United. He's obviously leaving Bayern.Why does he want to leave Bayern?
So now Pogba and Bruno are not willing to defend when needed?Playing with Goretzka and Muller though 2 players who are willing to defend when needed
Thiago isn’t your traditional DM is he.
Not sure if you truly believe we can afford all those players? Especially when we seem to be struggling to pay what’s needed for the first name you listed.Dunno, this link feels like the obligatory, look fans we beat United for him. Either way I'm in. Sancho, Grealish, DVB, Thiago, Hauge and a defender. Awesome summer.
I don't think he defensively presses or covers less ground than Matic does for us. And Bayern play a very high press, so they'd probably be left open and reliant on him+others way more than we would in ours.As others have said, it's way too weak defensively. In Bayern he had others doing way more defensive work in midfield than pogba will ever do.
Bruno defends...you could argue it’s actually more balanced having him in there instead of Muller. He’s immense at getting the ball deep and beating the press which is our biggest weakness. He’d be a terrific signing but we’d have to sell Fred to be able to do it.Playing with Goretzka and Muller though 2 players who are willing to defend when needed
Thiago isn’t your traditional DM is he.
Why would we need to sell Fred instead of PereiraBruno defends...you could argue it’s actually more balanced having him in there instead of Muller. He’s immense at getting the balm deep and beating the press which is our biggest weakness. He’d be a terrific signing but we’d have to sell Fred to be able to do it.
So now Pogba and Bruno are not willing to defend when needed?
We have been left open when we have high pressed with matic. Our midfield has been one of the biggest reasons we have lost or drawn games, we need to make it defensively better.I don't think he defensively presses or covers less ground than Matic does for us. And Bayern play a very high press, so they'd probably be left open and reliant on him+others way more than we would in ours.
Besides Bruno often tracks and defends.
Because Thiago will play as a DM...Why would we need to sell Fred instead of Pereira
Its nothing to do with getting away. He us just a superb player and essential to beating the pressIt’s comparing apples to oranges.
Whatever anyway, the midfield attributes at Bayern are completely different to Uniteds hence they can get away with Thiago dropping deep.
Fred can play as CM, why would we sell him and have no Pogba coverBecause Thiago will play as a DM...
We have been left open when we have high pressed with matic. Our midfield has been one of the biggest reasons we have lost or drawn games, we need to make it defensively better.
Compared to Bayern we look so light in midfield. I don't want to watch us collapse to some midfield pressure or when leave our midfield exposed again next season.
We’re signing VDB and Mctominay also plays as a CM. There is no way Fred is staying if we sign both Thiago and VDB. He’d then arguably be 3rd choice in the DM role and possibly 4th in the Pogba role. He was a 50m signing. He’d have to be moved on.Fred can play as CM
I know. He’s one of the few players I’d make the mistake of getting drawn into a saga for more than onceDont do it to yourselves guys. Liverpool will pay-up.
I believe Falk said he wants a new challenge and to play in England. Also that he feels like the icing on the cake at Bayern but he knows they're fine without him & he wants to be more of a catalyst leads a team to glory. He would have transformed Liverpool's average midfield and taken them up a few levels but if they've pulled out maybe the chance to take us back to the top is enticing enough?Why does he want to leave Bayern?
If we sign VDB then fine. Thats not a given if we get Thiago in my opinionWe’re signing VDB and Mctominay also plays as a CM. There is no way Fred is staying if we sign both Thiago and VDB. He’d then arguably be 3rd choice in the DM role and possibly 4th in the Pogba role. He was a 50m signing. He’d have to be moved on.
We have left our DM exposed this season and paid for it. He's not a dm, he's a deep lying play maker and there is a huge difference. He's closer to pirlo than a proper DM. He had a great setup in Bayern with hard working players around him, he will not get that with the suggested lineup.We don't press anywhere like Bayern do. In fact I'm sure no club does this, it's a weird tactic but it works. And obviously Thiago will be more exposed in that system than anywhere else. To draw parallels from there, where he plays a holding role despite this supposed weakness, and try and claim it wouldn't work here is a bit lazy.
Put it this way, he's better than Matic as a defensive midfielder. So it makes obvious sense.