Thiago Alcantara | Pool bound

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He'd be a fantastic signing and makes all the sense in the world, would also be a statement of intent as to where we want to go as a club and is also available at a snip compared to his ability level, all of those things make me absolutely certain we will not sign him. We are more likely to sign Longstaff for £50m than Thiago for £30m.

When we get linked for world class players like this, either it's the players agent trying to get him a new contract, or it's the agent & the club trying to get another club to up their bid, I don't believe for one second we are in for a player the calibre of Thiago.
 
Scarecrow said:
Oh, please. Bayern are leaking this to get Liverpool moving with their bid. We’re everyone’s favorite club to use in these situations. I’m not falling for it. And Rummenigge can get fecked.

Sorry for being the cynical bastard but, come on.
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If Bayern were leaking this it wouldn't come from a Norweigan source.
 
Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
He'd be a fantastic signing and makes all the sense in the world, would also be a statement of intent as to where we want to go as a club and is also available at a snip compared to his ability level, all of those things make me absolutely certain we will not sign him. We are more likely to sign Longstaff for £50m than Thiago for £30m.
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Except we've proven we aren't as we walked away from that deal last year.
 
Is this only based on something said by some Norwegian guy who supposedly knows Fjörtoft?
 
AltiUn said:
Except we've proven we aren't as we walked away from that deal last year.
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Yes, I know. But what I am saying is we are more likely to do that deal than sign Thiago. We like young hard working british players.

If Longstaff starts next season well I can easily see us being in for him again. I can't see any instance where we sign Thiago.

Thiago is the type of player who serious teams sign, a team who actually have aspirations of challenging domestically & in Europe, think Liverpool, City or Chelsea. We're more likely to look at a Kalvin Phillips or a John McGinn, or go back to Sean Longstaff.
 
Xaviesta said:
Thiago would be a brilliant signing for whichever club signs him. He'd improve United if they signed him - he's arguably better than what they curretly have. I wonder if United are being used as a way of getting Liverpool to Bayern's asking price.
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I'm sure of it, though it is weird it coming through a Norwegian journalist rather than Falk or someone. If we managed to get both him and van de Beek, we really would be sorted for midfield depth.

Bruno
Thiago Pogba

with van de Beek, Fred, McTominay and Matic rotation. Lingard and Pereira sold. In reality, I think the links to Thiago are nonsense, van de Beek is the only one we're interested in and whether that happens is debatable. Thiago seems set for Liverpool and will probably happen once they raise the funds by selling Wijnaldum to Barcelona.

There'll be replies saying that midfield three is too weak defensively but Bayern won the Champions League with a midfield of Muller, Goretzka and Thiago and both Bruno and Pogba are capable of tracking back.
 
Hammondo said:
We have left our DM exposed this season and paid for it. He's not a dm, he's a deep lying play maker and there is a huge difference. He's closer to pirlo than a proper DM. He had a great setup in Bayern with hard working players around him, he will not get that with the suggested lineup.

He is a great player and brings a lot of what we need, but we need to properly balance our midfield with him.
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Against 12 or 14 teams in the league he is what we need. Our issue is creating chances and scoring goals against the teams below us in the table.

If a midfield of thiago pogba and bruno cant solve that we may as well give up.

We also have 2 defensive fullbacks which should allow for more attacking options elsewhere, the opposite of say Liverpool.

You'll obviously need matic in certain games.

Not that he's coming anyway.
 
AltiUn said:
If Bayern were leaking this it wouldn't come from a Norweigan source.
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Right mate - some friend of Jan Aage who is a Bundesliga journalist, and I wouldn’t trust to tell me if it’s day or night outside, says “we are interested” (which can be said also for every club in the world). Then the Bayern mouthpiece Falk retweets it immediately, careful not to deny anything but emphasize that Thiago wants to go to Liverpool. Same time Rummenigge says they are expecting a bid from a club soon.

It’s textbook.
 
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Doubtful given the van de Beek reports yesterday. Those links sound far more concrete and there's no chance we're going in for two midfielders.
 
Damien said:
I'm sure of it, though it is weird it coming through a Norwegian journalist rather than Falk or someone. If we managed to get both him and van de Beek, we really would be sorted for midfield depth.

Bruno
Thiago Pogba

with van de Beek, Fred, McTominay and Matic rotation. Lingard and Pereira sold. In reality, I think the links to Thiago are nonsense, van de Beek is the only one we're interested in and whether that happens is debatable. Thiago seems set for Liverpool and will probably happen once they raise the funds by selling Wijnaldum to Barcelona.

There'll be replies saying that midfield three is too weak defensively but Bayern won the Champions League with a midfield of Muller, Goretzka and Thiago and both Bruno and Pogba are capable of tracking back.
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VDB has been left out of the squad, there is something definitely happening there. We’ll know more tomorrow I’m guessing.
 
I don't think its true, believe the Van de Beek one but not a chance for both. Would be overloaded, unless Pogba was leaving. Tbh though I would easily replace Pogba with both Thiago and Van de Beek, but wherever Thiago goes he'll be an instant starter, and I don't see us putting him as the holding mid next to Pogba. He's a better player, but they wouldn't compliment each other (and then Van de Beek would just be extra).
 
Strats said:
Is this only based on something said by some Norwegian guy who supposedly knows Fjörtoft?
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He said it alright. I have followed Man Utd for years and also transfer windows. Have not heard about this guy and I highly doubt that a Norwegian would know. If he does he knows some of Oles click and has his sources there. The original source works for a pretty big newspaper here. Don’t think he would make it up though. So he has it from somewhere. The reliability is dodgy imo.

Edit: went through his Twitter feed and he usually don’t do transfer rumours at all. So why he all of a sudden tweets this I don’t know- but he has heard something probably.
 
Castia said:
DM is not Thiago‘s position by nature’s never has been not got a clue why people think it is.
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If you say so. It's a fact though that he was more important to Bayern in the DM role than he ever managed to be in more offensive positions throughout the seven years with the club. I'm inclined to say that he actually was wasted in earlier seasons further up the pitch.
 
Here we go again, chasing up players last minute when it's obvious they've agreed to join our rivals
 
GhastlyHun said:
If you say so. It's a fact though that he was more important to Bayern in the DM role than he ever managed to be in more offensive positions throughout the seven years with the club. I'm inclined to say that he actually was wasted in earlier seasons further up the pitch.
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Its not so much about the location he plays in, but the role he has in the midfield. He's the controller and creator from deep. That's Pogba for us. Pogba next to Thiago just wouldn't work that well IMO. Would be all for moving Pogba on for Thiago and getting Van de Beek on top, but can't see a midfield of Thiago/Pogba/Bruno ever working. Its the same for City whenever they don't have one of Fernandinho or Rodri in their midfield. Need that defensive minded physical presence.
 
charlenefan said:
Bayern just won the UCL with him and Goretzka as their CM paring, I think we'd be fine with Thiago and Pogba
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Bayern team totally different in their style of play. Their defenders are playing too high so that they can support their midfield with ball rotation and their attackers too very close to their midfield.

Man utd can't play both pogba and alcantara in two man midfield.
 
Rajiztar said:
Bayern team totally different in their style of play. Their defenders are playing too high so that they can support their midfield with ball rotation and their attackers too very close to their midfield.

Man utd can't play both pogba and alcantara in two man midfield.
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Ole has said he wants the defence to play high next season
 
Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
He'd be a fantastic signing and makes all the sense in the world, would also be a statement of intent as to where we want to go as a club and is also available at a snip compared to his ability level, all of those things make me absolutely certain we will not sign him. We are more likely to sign Longstaff for £50m than Thiago for £30m.

When we get linked for world class players like this, either it's the players agent trying to get him a new contract, or it's the agent & the club trying to get another club to up their bid, I don't believe for one second we are in for a player the calibre of Thiago.
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Well we have had our fair share of
World class players since SAF left. Hasn’t often worked out for them
Or us.
 
Fjortoft got it from norwegian journalist Fredrik Filtvedt who works for Dagbladet TV.

Here is the tweet.

It roughly translates. Ive heard that apart from van de beek, united is also interested in thiago.
 
Scarecrow said:
Oh, please. Bayern are leaking this to get Liverpool moving with their bid. We’re everyone’s favorite club to use in these situations. I’m not falling for it. And Rummenigge can get fecked.

Sorry for being the cynical bastard but, come on.
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Yep. This is not my first rodeo neither. This is just our name being used.
 
VP89 said:
In many ways, he was the support. Bayern played countless vital passages through him.

He would shine anywhere, this argument that he doesn't suit Pogba and Bruno is really, really weird. On paper he suits them perfectly.
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Exactly. It looks great on a "best 11" lineup but I just can't see Pogba and Thiago in a midfield 2 being in any way balanced. Maybe Thiago has added a lot more to his game in recent seasons. If he's good enough defensively to compensate for Pogba, add that to his quality on the ball and he will be an outstanding player.
 
Cassidy said:
Ole has said he wants the defence to play high next season
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Then ole need to recruit lot more players. Man utd starting 11 is great but with them alone you can't play high press expansive foot ball.

You need one pacy defender to pair maguire and two super fast full backs either side who should be good at attack.

And more importantly he should be able to bring in coman Coutinho like quality to maintain the tempo.
 
Rajiztar said:
Then ole need to recruit lot more players. Man utd starting 11 is great but with them alone you can't play high press expansive foot ball.

You need one pacy defender to pair maguire and two super fast full backs either side who should be good at attack.

And more importantly he should be able to bring in coman Coutinho like quality to maintain the tempo.
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Yes which Ole has said. He wants a CB who can be relied upon to defend on his own and who has pace. Doesnt mean we will get one this summer but building a team is an evolution. Its clear what his tactical intentions are
 
Think he would fare much better at Liverpool, to be honest. I don't believe he fits to Pogba and Bruno who are much more vertical than him. You wouldn't get the best out of him in that setup, IMO. Could Bruno also play as an inverted winger, theoretically?
 
Don't believe there's anything in it and he's destined for Liverpool but think he'd be ideal next to Pogba and Bruno who don't really offer control over games.
 
Zehner said:
Think he would fare much better at Liverpool, to be honest. I don't believe he fits to Pogba and Bruno who are much more vertical than him. You wouldn't get the best out of him in that setup, IMO. Could Bruno also play as an inverted winger, theoretically?
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This is precisely why we need him. We struggled in a few games cause we simply had no control of the ball, we couldn't retain it. We need a midfielder who can settle things down and allow us to play a patient game.
 
Scarecrow said:
Oh, please. Bayern are leaking this to get Liverpool moving with their bid. We’re everyone’s favorite club to use in these situations. I’m not falling for it. And Rummenigge can get fecked.

Sorry for being the cynical bastard but, come on.
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Perhaps. Agree Liverpool is is absolute preferred destination. But what Liverpool they cant afford him, or we outbid them?

Maybe we have a choice between Van Beek or Thiago?

Do you turn your nose up to him, because we aren't his first choice? I don't know enough about Van Beek to make a judgement on which is a better long term acquisition.
 
Zehner said:
Think he would fare much better at Liverpool, to be honest. I don't believe he fits to Pogba and Bruno who are much more vertical than him. You wouldn't get the best out of him in that setup, IMO. Could Bruno also play as an inverted winger, theoretically?
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Well, probably a diamond? With Sancho not coming moving to a different format?

This is BS news though. Just a ploy to have Ajax reduce their 40m price.
 
I don’t for one second believe this is true! If it were true however, it’d mean we’re selling Pogba as there is no way the two could play together in Ole’s system.
 
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