kept thinking about this today after watching last night
great episode and I really didn't care about the characters
savage and brilliant
great episode and I really didn't care about the characters
savage and brilliant
Television The Walking Dead
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It was a good episode but I can see where the criticism comes from by people. The show has a history of having a strong episode followed by about 3 episodes of shite so I can understand people being cynical. It has also repeated the same formula a load of times.
Thing that annoyed me mainly about the episode
Thing that annoyed me mainly about the episode
why they make Carl out to not be the sligthest bit bothered by what was happening? The rest were shitting themselves and he just sat there not intimidated at all. Maybe he's just a really shit actor but it seemed intentional to have him like that.
He's a really shit actor but they are stuck with him.
Really?! I thought Negan does bore on a bit.
It was intentional
Yeah they definitely had him talking too much. Seemed to go on and on at times, like a Family Guy joke.
My thoughts entirely and for me, it undermined him as a character, ie he's boring, not menacing. I get the ramping of tension and breaking Rick, but I also thought the axe scene was a bit lame -the mist was almost trying to make it like a sub-conscious, soul-searching thing.
I was pretty pissed when I watched it tbf- got a corporate invite to that darts place, Flight Club, which was better than I expected tbf, but a ballache getting home from (ie involved falling asleep on the central and waking up at Ealing Broadway).
This is what I come into the Walking Dead thread for.
Jesus Christ. What's the first rule of flight club? 
The Glenn death was hilarious. And long overdue. Least he didn't escape under a dumpster this time.
Also that dinner table bit at the end
Anyway once the Negan stuff ended it went back to usual melodrama soppy TWD shite. He should have killed the rest and have the show be about him instead.
Also that dinner table bit at the end
Anyway once the Negan stuff ended it went back to usual melodrama soppy TWD shite. He should have killed the rest and have the show be about him instead.
How does it feel to share the opinion of a drug addled alcoholic?
Sorry, a Welsh drug addled alcoholic.
I think Negan did seem to talk a lot, but it was to show his power and to break Rick.
And this is why I think it would have worked better if the actual deaths happened in the finale and then continued with the bit he did here.
But it did seem really padded out for one actual act which we all wanted to see
And this is why I think it would have worked better if the actual deaths happened in the finale and then continued with the bit he did here.
But it did seem really padded out for one actual act which we all wanted to see
Beats Negan's verbal diarrhoea!
I think Negan made a comment about Carl being a "future serial killer" last season. You get the impression they're trying portray him as this kid who, unlike the others, has spent the majority of his life post zombie apocalypse and is not overly bothered by violence and death.
The Glenn death was hilarious. And long overdue. Least he didn't escape under a dumpster this time.
Also that dinner table bit at the end
Anyway once the Negan stuff ended it went back to usual melodrama soppy TWD shite. He should have killed the rest and have the show be about him instead.
Loved his boogly eye.
It's weird how we're supposed to hate Neagan for killing 2 people yet Rick and Co. killed a few dozen of his men unprovoked.
I think that's it really. He's been surrounded by his friends dying ever since he was a boy. Maybe he's still to young to understand exactly what's happening, maybe he's just fed up and doesn't care if he dies.
I think where as Rick clearly has a conscience, we might see Carl grow up to become a bit less remorseful.
He's grown up with death all around him, either everyone he knows dying, him having to kill people, or seeing people he loves kill people. It's a sub plot between him and Rick that I would say really picked up in S4?
Their whole dynamic changed during the prison after Lori died. Rick almost talks to Carl as if he's the parent. For example when Negan toyed with Rick about chopping Carl's arm, Carl just knew it had to be done to save the life of the others, and he was almost pitying Rick for being so weak in that moment.
Plus he's been shot twice! That's as gangsta as it gets really, he just needs a tattoo next.
Their whole dynamic changed during the prison after Lori died. Rick almost talks to Carl as if he's the parent. For example when Negan toyed with Rick about chopping Carl's arm, Carl just knew it had to be done to save the life of the others, and he was almost pitying Rick for being so weak in that moment.
Plus he's been shot twice! That's as gangsta as it gets really, he just needs a tattoo next.
I just want to say Glenn was my boy ever since he banged Mags. RIP.
I suppose the comments re Carl make sense. Think I'm just biased against him cos I can't stand him mainly!
Would anyone really begrudge 'em recasting Carl though? Just a little message at the start going "hey, look, we fecked up, soz, this is new Carl, he can act, promise."
If they did a time skip they could just make out as though Carl grew up and have an adult cast in his role.
Yeah I would, he's a terrible actor really. Problem with child actors to be honest.
Problem with the show is they won't change anything it seems as it generates huge viewers, the storylines often get the same as it's just easy viewing. It works for the show even if people think it's shit.
Some possible replacements, not just the actor, bring the whole character over.
Jesus Christ. What's the first rule of flight club?
I imagine that it is: you do not walk about flight club?
It will be interesting to see what the out is for Rick and Company with this guy. Seeing it being....
Pretty obvious choices.
1) There are those within Negan's group who don't like him and they end up siding with Rick's group.
2) There are other small groups Negan has enslaved and they join together
3) There is another powerful group out there that steps in and helps Rick put an end to Negan
4) Zombies.
1) There are those within Negan's group who don't like him and they end up siding with Rick's group.
2) There are other small groups Negan has enslaved and they join together
3) There is another powerful group out there that steps in and helps Rick put an end to Negan
4) Zombies.
Obit for Glen.
I kept reading that and expected a punchline at some point but it turns out it was just completely shit the entire way through.Obit for Glen.
It's odd some Oregon newspaper would run an obit. Does kind of lack something- I guess the Negan bit is the 'punchline'.
Those complaining about the tired formula obviously haven't read the books.. it's the same formula. Basically you're alive but you can never relax as humans are worse than the zombies.
I don't know how it's actually all going to end!
I don't know how it's actually all going to end!
I think I hate Carl more than I hated Skyler in BB. That's really saying something. Awful actor and fecking annoying character.
Well, I like that they addressed this and acknowledged that it isn't practical to have a freaking tiger.
I was a little disappointed King Ezekiel broke character though, I want him to be as kingly as possible.
It feels like they are trying to repair some damage they did before. Killing off Glen who shouldn't have been alive after that fecking ridiculous episode when he was sitting under a fecking trashcan, Negan who seems to be mental and Ezekiel who seems like a great character.
I think I preferred the Ezekiel when he was alone sitting with Carol explaining who he really is, hope to see more of his big bodyguard too as he brings a bit of humour to the show.
That was a whole other level of shite.
Carol was kind of like a lot of viewers in that episode. "This is nonsense. What am I doing here?"
Normal service has been resumed
I didn't think it was too bad
That face-slice kill was excellent.
Not sure I like it going all knights of the round table though.
Not sure I like it going all knights of the round table though.