Television The Walking Dead

Was brutal as f*ck. Can't think of another TV episode like it.

Dát snot bubble tho.
 
Jeffrey Dean Morgan is a great addition to the cast.

That was a very god episode but I actually agree with @Eboue that there should have been a death in the last episode of the last season. The cliffhanger was annoying. And, then Glenn's death in this episode could have been even more surprising.

The inevitable Rick Grimes crew win at some point in this season is going to be irritating though, I fear. They are ridiculously outmatched.
 
They could have been a bit more creative with the choices but it was alright. Thought Negan talked way too much and lost a lot of his intimidation factor from last season's end.

Unnecessary tease when Negan was forcing Rick to de-limb Carl and didn't go through with it. Would have made the episode worthwhile for me.
 
Best episode of this program in a hell of a long time.

Brutal as hell though and I've come away feeling Like WTF.
 
Meh you just know the next episode is going to be:

Full of crying and dramatic music when they return to Alexandria.
 
ADJUDICATOR said:
They could have been a bit more creative with the choices but it was alright. Thought Negan talked way too much and lost a lot of his intimidation factor from last season's end.

Unnecessary tease when Negan was forcing Rick to de-limb Carl and didn't go through with it. Would have made the episode worthwhile for me.
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Disagree completely.

After he gave Glenn, a character with insane plot armor, such a gruesome death just to prove his point, I felt that anything could happen. Because of this, the part with Carl had me twisting in my seat. And I don't even like Carl!

Honestly, I could see 2 more characters being slaughter near the end there, just to rub it in completely.
 
I thought it was rubbish. It felt like torture porn, not torture porn for the viewer because even after 6 seasons I feel little connection to the characters, but torture porn for the show makers to see how long they could keep people hanging on with the patience testing reveal.

Abraham's death means absolutely nothing now, the sunday lunch scene was horrible and everything on the camper van was poorly handled.

JDM and the SFX were very good though. There was perhaps 5 good minutes out of 45, 5 minutes that should have been at the end of the last season.
 
Woodzy said:
The only way ending on a cliffhanger makes sense is if we get two or three people die. Maybe with someone trying to stop Negan as he assaults the first person and getting a bat the face themselves.

Maybe he beats the shit out of Lara Croft and James Hetfield goes in for the save? Then we get another season of Bob's Girlfriend being pissed off at everything.
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I was bloody close mind.
 
I didn't even find it that gruesome or over the top violent :lol: I must be seriously desensitized to this kind of thing.
 
Dir Wangem said:
Disagree completely.

After he gave Glenn, a character with insane plot armor, such a gruesome death just to prove his point, I felt that anything could happen. Because of this, the part with Carl had me twisting in my seat. And I don't even like Carl!

Honestly, I could see 2 more characters being slaughter near the end there, just to rub it in completely.
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Glenn did has had a pretty lucky run, but he was the one in the group that fit the 'good guys die eventually' theme best. That's been cropping up throughout with deaths like Dale, Caleb, Hershel, Tyreese, Noah etc. Maybe I just wasn't surprised because it was so widely known that he dies in the comics. Anyway, Abraham was a super safe choice.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
I didn't even find it that gruesome or over the top violent :lol: I must be seriously desensitized to this kind of thing.
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I'm not sure how you could get more violent than bashing in heads with a barbed bat, eyes popping and dents in the head

I was fecking shocked by it and I don't normally get shocked
 
Randall Flagg said:
I'm not sure how you could get more violent than bashing in heads with a barbed bat, eyes popping and dents in the head

I was fecking shocked by it and I don't normally get shocked
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Didn't really bother me either to be honest. I am really insensitive to gore.
 
That was one gruesome episode, at times it was tense and it was played out really well by this Negan character.

My only concern is that we will now get 3 weeks of fillers.
 
Randall Flagg said:
I'm not sure how you could get more violent than bashing in heads with a barbed bat, eyes popping and dents in the head

I was fecking shocked by it and I don't normally get shocked
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I don't know, I guess I've just seen a lot of violence on tv or in movies and gore doesn't really bother me in the slightest.

Glenn's eye was really well done though, that was more like something you'd see in the Saw/Hostel films. Specifically brought this to mind for me:

 
That was intense as feck! Didn't really feel a connection with the characters that were killed off but damn.. that was some messed up shit!
 
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I dont get why they did the Glenn teases last season? It really wasnt needed.

Also I think the impact of Negan coming up in the last episode and surrounding the group was lost by the break and the need to stretch it how to reveal who actually died. I think if it had actually happened at the end of the last episode, the whole impact of it would have been captured and leaving us with a "holy feck, Negan".

Saying that, it was still a fantastic episode and very gruesome.


Somebody mentioned that the death of Negan will be satisfying. I have a feeling it will either be Morgan killing him to go against his code (cos Negan is outside the rules for him) or they will use that silly jail he built, cos... Walking dead)
 
starman said:
I have finally managed to catch up (on a binge, annoying when there are some many references on the net) and i quite liked the ending. I can see it has pissed off a lot of people who already know the comic story line, but the fact they didn't show who died has spawned so much talk and speculation which what it supposed to do, going into new a season.
Unfortunately i know bits of the comic storyline so know who Negan was supposed kill, and if they follow through with that death and showed it i dont see there being the same amount of anticipation. We know we are going to see it when season 7 comes around.

As for the final episode, it was pretty boring while happening, but appreciate the pace after it had finished, given the sheer desperation of the situation they were leading into.
I am not really getting the arc of Carol, she seemed to just switch, from being totally cold. Whether it was the death of Sam that triggered it, it didn't really resonate. The arc is not a bad thing, but it just does not seem to be protrayed that well. Morgan did a much better job, even if we only saw a little of it.
I glad Morgan got more screen time and the parallels from the first season. He is the only character i really root for now, the rest of the mains are mild to extremely irritating.

Abraham.

I know people might feel cheated by this as he is not a major character, which would have been echoed, alot more had they actually shown it and we knew who it was, with that information to fester for 6 months.
Anyway the whole position he was in, the screen time he got in the last few episodes, the Orange crush references and the way he puffed his chest out at Negan and the person getting up from being hit in the head suggests its him. IMO
However.... i also think Glenn will get the chop as well in the first episode, if it was indeed not him in the finale, he would have cheated death twice now, and that will be the real shock as people would expect him to survive if it was not him getting his head smashed in by Negan (supposed to be him in the comic).
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starman said:
Unless they are going in a different direction from the comic, but Negan does not kill females, which should rule out Michonne. And if it was her, there would be more effect showing it as, without having a cliffhanger as no one would have expected it, the shock value would have been higher,m than waiting.
Anyway i think its Abraham, but Glenn also ends up getting it which would tie in the POV theory
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starman said:
Thats why i think its going to be two. Glenn, being the POV character. Having Negan kill a female would completely divert from his character in comic and Michonne has "uses" to him. Hes not a complete psycho like the governor. He values people of use to him and feeds off fear.

Abraham is muscle, which he has plenty of, and Glenn, unless he turns into a complete nut job, his arc is pretty much complete. Daryl is weak after being shot, and a fan favorite, so not much sense in killing him. That said the actor schedule is supposed to be full , so he might leave the show, but think he will be written out for a return at a later date.
If it was Michonne or Daryl, the shock value would be much higher, imo, if they actually showed it now, rather than wait for 6 months
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Nailed it..
 
Sylar said:
I dont get why they did the Glenn teases last season? It really wasnt needed.

Also I think the impact of Negan coming up in the last episode and surrounding the group was lost by the break and the need to stretch it how to reveal who actually died. I think if it had actually happened at the end of the last episode, the whole impact of it would have been captured and leaving us with a "holy feck, Negan".

Saying that, it was still a fantastic episode and very gruesome.


Somebody mentioned that the death of Negan will be satisfying. I have a feeling it will either be Morgan killing him to go against his code (cos Negan is outside the rules for him) or they will use that silly jail he built, cos... Walking dead)
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Morgan already broke the code last season when he shot someone to save Carol. I think it will be Carl who eventually kills him. Or Maggie.
 
a_devil_inside said:
Sadly a lot of people on social media couldn't wait to post photos of the deaths so that kind of spoiled it for me, like it's a competition to try and be one of the first.
Seen loads of people say they were crying or they're heartbroken after watching this, get a grip. It's just a show.
Still a good episode though, Negan hopefully continues being a strong character, but as for that blonde bloke who hates Daryl I hope he gets killed off soon.
Shame about the arm, I was urging Rick on.
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Unfortunately this, haven't seen the episode yet but people on Facebook have ruined it for me already. Don't see what they achieve out of this.
 
That was really brutal, the guy who plays Rick is one of the best actors around imo. Unlike previous seasons this one will actually have some direction, will be good to see how Rick and his crew come back from this. Really good episode, hope they can follow up on it, won't hold my breath as this has been happening a lot over the last few seasons where we have a good start then it just wanes of with mediocrity.
 
pascell said:
Unfortunately this, haven't seen the episode yet but people on Facebook have ruined it for me already. Don't see what they achieve out of this.
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Don't use facebook but have been twitter free and anything WD related free over the weekend, so didn't get spoiled.
 
Have had to watch this show for years because the wife always enjoyed it, but after this season's opener she has finally called it a day and given up on the series.
 
Parma Dewol said:
Have had to watch this show for years because the wife always enjoyed it, but after this season's opener she has finally called it a day and given up on the series.
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Why? If you've stuck with it this far you know what it's all about. Can't see anything that would put you off that anything previous wouldn't?
 
Parma Dewol said:
Have had to watch this show for years because the wife always enjoyed it, but after this season's opener she has finally called it a day and given up on the series.
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Why, weird reaction to what was a very strong episode.

She knew someone was going to get it after the end of season 6, so why now give up on it?
 
Adam-Utd said:
Why? If you've stuck with it this far you know what it's all about. Can't see anything that would put you off that anything previous wouldn't?
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I'd personally given up on it a few seasons ago, but for the missus I think she got tired of the way the show has developed. The underlying story is vanishing, character development has in my opinion fallen by the wayside, and when watching it feels almost cheap and manipulative. Takes an age for a supposed big-reveal to be revealed, and when it is we found ourselves nonplussed either way. I think we've eventually both come to the same conclusion, which is: why are we actually watching this?
 
Parma Dewol said:
I'd personally given up on it a few seasons ago, but for the missus I think she got tired of the way the show has developed. The underlying story is vanishing, character development has in my opinion fallen by the wayside, and when watching it feels almost cheap and manipulative. Takes an age for a supposed big-reveal to be revealed, and when it is we found ourselves nonplussed either way. I think we've eventually both come to the same conclusion, which is: why are we actually watching this?
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Yeah they're certainly dragging the show out. No real plot or end game in sight right now. It's definitely NOT a great show, but I still watch it for some reason. I must admit I don't actually enjoy it that much anymore though :lol: I did at first.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Yeah they're certainly dragging the show out. No real plot or end game in sight right now. It's definitely NOT a great show, but I still watch it for some reason. I must admit I don't actually enjoy it that much anymore though :lol: I did at first.
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Trouble is, when the next episode airs I reckon she'll want to watch it just out of curiosity! Certainly not easy to give up on something that you've already invested a lot of time in. A bit like a book that reads as though it's going nowhere, you don't really want to continue, but after 200 pages with only another 100 to go, you think you may as well keep going.
 
Parma Dewol said:
Trouble is, when the next episode airs I reckon she'll want to watch it just out of curiosity! Certainly not easy to give up on something that you've already invested a lot of time in. A bit like a book that reads as though it's going nowhere, you don't really want to continue, but after 200 pages with only another 100 to go, you think you may as well keep going.
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Yeah I think that's why I persist with it, I've gone too far to stop now. I generally forget about it for a few weeks then just record + fast forward half the scenes, there's plenty of filler usually. I just don't see how they can keep getting new material in the same scenarios, feels like they are going in circles until they decide to kill them all or find an antitode or something :lol:
 
Firstly, I'm so happy to see Andrew Lincoln put in a star performance like that. I've worked with a few celebrities in my time and he is by far one of the nicest.

Thoughts on the episode below:

Didn't expect Duke Nukem to die... thought it would have been Eugene as his character arc appeared to be finished.
Glenn was also a surprise... bloody Daryl got him kiled :mad:
Why didn't Rick axe the back of Neegan's head when he retrieved the axe and came into the RV, at which point Negan turned his back to Rick...?
Carl should take Glenn's eye and use it for himself.
 
Sylar said:
I dont get why they did the Glenn teases last season? It really wasnt needed.

Also I think the impact of Negan coming up in the last episode and surrounding the group was lost by the break and the need to stretch it how to reveal who actually died. I think if it had actually happened at the end of the last episode, the whole impact of it would have been captured and leaving us with a "holy feck, Negan".

Saying that, it was still a fantastic episode and very gruesome.


Somebody mentioned that the death of Negan will be satisfying. I have a feeling it will either be Morgan killing him to go against his code (cos Negan is outside the rules for him) or they will use that silly jail he built, cos... Walking dead)
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I don't think Negan is going to die any time soon... there's nothing to suggest this, and I don't think it will go down the usual route where Rick's group come together against the odds and take out the 'bad' guy.
The whole dynamic is going to change I think
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Firstly, I'm so happy to see Andrew Lincoln put in a star performance like that. I've worked with a few celebrities in my time and he is by far one of the nicest.

Thoughts on the episode below:

Didn't expect Duke Nukem to die... thought it would have been Eugene as his character arc appeared to be finished.
Glenn was also a surprise... bloody Daryl got him kiled :mad:
Why didn't Rick axe the back of Neegan's head when he retrieved the axe and came into the RV, at which point Negan turned his back to Rick...?
Carl should take Glenn's eye and use it for himself.
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Rick killing Negan would have got everybody else killed. He knows Negan's got him by the balls so he's just got to go along with it right now. That was the whole reason for the "show" he put on, it was a show of power.

Exactly why he keeps saying "I don't like the way you look at me", Rick doesn't look at him with fear to begin with, but by the end he is. He knows then he's got power over him.
 
I think I have the same issue as posted on here by some others. The story itself has been gone and they rely on cheap gimmicks / tactics to keep you watching. Its the same thing over and over again for 7 seasons.
Sure it might change now, but then theres that other group whos with Morgan (and a freakin tiger still to come). Im sure that will come into play and then eventually it will happen again.

This should is decent at best with great moments here and there when it could and should have been fantastic.
But so much time has been invested I end up continuing.

Next week will probably focus on Carol or Morgan (or both).

vi1lain said:
I don't think Negan is going to die any time soon... there's nothing to suggest this, and I don't think it will go down the usual route where Rick's group come together against the odds and take out the 'bad' guy.
The whole dynamic is going to change I think
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Neither do I. I think he will be around for 2 seasons.

Glenns death made me laugh when it should have been a big moment. The cheap trick they did last season took so much away (well both cheap tricks - the fake Glenn death and the cliffhanger ending).
It was well shot though.
 
Sylar said:
Neither do I. I think he will be around for 2 seasons.

Glenns death made me laugh when it should have been a big moment. The cheap trick they did last season took so much away (well both cheap tricks - the fake Glenn death and the cliffhanger ending).
It was well shot though.
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I can see him staying around for the duration, with other villains like the Governor you knew they were on borrowed time and will eventually die.
At this moment, and the way he broke Rick I just can't see them killing him, and considering he's in charge of a number of other groups of survivors the odds are stacked against them severely.
I mean, Rick's group will win eventually, that's just how the show is set up. I'm just not convinced they'll kill Negan.
It might be someone else, or maybe they keep him alive for leverage/power?
 
Honestly, isn't the plot a bit predictable now?

Rick's group + Hilltop + The Knights (the dudes who found Morgan) will unite against Negan and win. Is there anything else more realistic to assume? I just have a bit of trouble understand the role of the Wolves.
 
I really like Negan's trousers. Does anybody know what they are and where I could get some?

He has no ass though so I need a fuller-figure size.
 
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