The Trump Presidency - Part 2

It has been reported for months that Trump has been demanding Netanyahu to have the ceasefire done by the times he assumes the Presidency. For reasons that we can speculate on, Netanyahu has proved far more willing to acquiesce to Trump’s demand on this than he has to any other touted concessions to Biden over the last 15 months.

You're having yourself one helluva day today, aren't you?

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/16/biden-trump-gaza-ceasefire-hostage-deal
As 2cents says.

Also, as Trump announced the deal himself and as he ran on the fact he would do it. It's insane to claim this was Biden who was content to let them murder 10% of a population, increasing the money sent.

The reason I wanted Trump to win, and only one out of two (ceasefire in Ukraine being the other), was this. After that, I don't know and re domestic stuff I couldn't attest to but do sense (could be bullshit) that he will have a more centrist second term.
 
I am referring to when Biden was president to promote the vaccine. Give credit to Trump, since Trump loves any kind of adulation. Even hammer home that Trump was vaccinated.
It was political way before then, besides the whole point of Biden was he was supposed to be not Trump and not do Trump like things
 
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And there it is
Which I said openly in an election thread. The worst gotcha of all time? Ending a genocide and another war. Yes, there it is. 200k (perhaps) dead Palestinians. One is over, potentially, and it had feck all to do with Biden.

I said he'd win and that I wanted him to win for these two reasons but was told neither would happen if he was elected. There it is.
 
Which I said openly in an election thread. The worst gotcha of all time? Ending a genocide and another war. Yes, there it is. 200k (perhaps) dead Palestinians. One is over, potentially, and it had feck all to do with Biden.
Yeah, I’m not going to try to convince a Trump fan of anything. Your promotion of Mel’s brain rot episode makes more sense now at least, so silver linings and all that.
 
Yeah, I’m not going to try to convince a Trump fan of anything. Your promotion of Mel’s brain rot episode makes more sense now at least, so silver linings and all that.
Yes, you have to be a fan of someone to want them to be elected because there is daylight on the key issues of the day regarding an actual fecking genocide which he pledged to end and a horrific war which he also pledged to end. Or, you have to be MAGA to be Islamic (or Mid Eastern) in those Northern Swing states and vote exactly for what I am talking about here even though you don't like Trump at all. It's ridiculous way of behaving in a debate.

Your attempt to credit the first to the regime that enabled it is a fecking disgrace. I'll leave you with that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvne94v1rdo

Record amounts of military aid sent throughout that 16 months genocide and also top-down dictates to certain universities regarding the weaponization of protest as a potential means to be expelled when those protests really took hold. It's all on the record.
 
Yes, you have to be a fan of someone to want them to be elected because there is daylight on the key issues of the day regarding an actual fecking genocide which he pledged to end and a horrific war which he also pledged to end. Or, you have to be MAGA to be Islamic (or Mid Eastern) in those Northern Swing states and vote exactly for what I am talking about here even though you don't like Trump at all. It's ridiculous way of behaving in a debate.

Your attempt to credit the first to the regime that enabled it is a fecking disgrace. I'll leave you with that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvne94v1rdo

Record amounts of military aid sent throughout that 16 months genocide and also top-down dictates to certain universities regarding the weaponization of protest as a potential means to be expelled when those protests really took hold. It's all on the record.
Maybe it was placebo effect that led to the ceasefire. Who are we to say otherwise?
 




(this is the bill that eliminates due process and allows any state to sue the centre over immigration enforcement)
 
Maybe it was placebo effect that led to the ceasefire. Who are we to say otherwise?
Yes, 200k dead in a genocide which killed an entire state's infrastructure on purpose is really funny. Maybe Biden rewrote history to pretend he didn't send all those weapons and give cover to Israel during that time. Luckily, we can know and say otherwise.
 
Biden battled inflation down to 3% and gas under 3 $ a gallon. I guess everything he did was to stay in power, rather than try to fix the economy for regular people?!?

Biden‘s whole career is a track record of trying to help the middle class Americans.

Meanwhile, all the other guy has done is enrich himself and his family with billions of dollars, and gave tax cuts to the rich. He has been a scammer his whole life.

If Trump stops the war in Ukraine it will be because he will throw Ukraine under the bus. Everything Trump has done and said so far, benefits Putin.

The only thing Biden did regarding inflation was to slightly make it worse, like any president would.
 
Didn't Biden have a terrible record re ICE, albeit nothing like what Trump is going to do (which will be extreme)?

As for ivermectin, that drug which is often used as an antiviral, secondarily, I don't see the joke. Except the baiting tactic or whatever. And don't really care if people just disregard the facts because Mel Gibson is sketchy or Joe Rogan hosted him. As if I claimed what they did. Incredible intelligence shown.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US11364256B2/en

Not sure if that's the only patent for the use of that drug as an antiviral but it is one and there are literally thousands of articles regarding its use as antiviral in tropical fevers and so forth. But, hey, it's crazy.
 
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Biden battled inflation down to 3% and gas under 3 $ a gallon. I guess everything he did was to stay in power, rather than try to fix the economy for regular people?!?

Biden‘s whole career is a track record of trying to help the middle class Americans.

Meanwhile, all the other guy has done is enrich himself and his family with billions of dollars, and gave tax cuts to the rich. He has been a scammer his whole life.

If Trump stops the war in Ukraine it will be because he will throw Ukraine under the bus. Everything Trump has done and said so far, benefits Putin.

I absolutely agree on the last 2 sentence. Biden didn't even try to counteract the taxes cuts by the way and he benefit of the presidency also, with money and also personally pardoning his son

All the other main economies got it under 3% . US a little bit sooner and it beated all the predictions that it will be a recession which didn't happen. Good on Biden and his team. On gas prices, I already mentioned it in other posts, he could have sanctioned harder Russian oil to put pressure on the Ukraine war but that would have increased the gas prices worldwide and also in US. And Biden didn't want that, not because he did it for americans pockets, but because if not he would have had problems to be elected. And he showed that when he applied this sanctions 1 week ago when he had nothing in play and he didn't care of elections and neither american pockets and a last "present" for Trump.

He never cared of americans. If anything benefited americans was because it suited him
 
I have a good friend who sidesteps the health misinformation stuff with Kennedy. I’m not saying it’s the same as what I see in this thread but it reminded me of it.

My position is it’s wrong and dangerous (especially the MMR stuff) and it’s so evidently proven, beyond all logic, that if you can’t see it it’s futile to debate the rest of his views in a vacuum.

It’s such a waste of everyone’s time. You like your opinions so much you don’t even want to question them? Fine, but leave me out of that hot mess.
 
Operation Warp-Speed was a Trump Adminstration initative, he did many stupid things in trlation to COVID but this wasn't one of them

I'll have to look in to that... Following it all the way through, Trump appeared to take active measure to help the damn thing spread and kill as many people as possible. Denial, Denial, Denial, shut down CDC, inject some bleach, don't believe the experts, logistics obstruction and delayed rollo-out, etc. Only when Biden arrived did we get the sense of anything happening at speed, maybe that's just a coincidence of timing, when it was ready to go.

I suppose from Trump's POV, he needed a working vaccine for himself, just didn't seem to want anyone else to have it...
 
Which I said openly in an election thread. The worst gotcha of all time? Ending a genocide and another war. Yes, there it is. 200k (perhaps) dead Palestinians. One is over, potentially, and it had feck all to do with Biden.

I said he'd win and that I wanted him to win for these two reasons but was told neither would happen if he was elected. There it is.
The cease-fire is not going to last and just watch what's coming for the Palestinians in the next years. It was a minuscule concession from Israel for a much bigger reward in the long-term.

As for the cease-fire in Ukraine, there's nothing really clear about how it's going to manifest itself and what cost for the Ukrainians.

As much as I hate the racist, genocidal cnut and wish him the worst for his last years on this planet, may they be short, Trump is an even bigger catastrophe.
 
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And there it is. Trump promised this. People that voted for him cannot now complain they don't like what he does or what Project 25 does. They knew it, and voted for it.
 
As my Trump voting, construction company owning (and undocumented worker employing) BIL said: "It's time to find out if us dumb white people are the wrong ones."
 
As 2cents says.

Also, as Trump announced the deal himself and as he ran on the fact he would do it. It's insane to claim this was Biden who was content to let them murder 10% of a population, increasing the money sent.

The reason I wanted Trump to win, and only one out of two (ceasefire in Ukraine being the other), was this. After that, I don't know and re domestic stuff I couldn't attest to but do sense (could be bullshit) that he will have a more centrist second term.

:lol:
 
Trump Commerce Nominee Lutnick Is Backer of Outlaws’ Favorite Cryptocurrency
Cantor Fitzgerald holds assets for Tether, the stablecoin used by drug traffickers, terrorists and scammers to move money around the world.

Tether has become the go-to digital currency of the criminal world. North Korea’s regime, Mexican drug traffickers and Southeast Asia-based human traffickers and scammers have all been caught using it to move millions of dollars. Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo warned Congress last year that Russia was using the cryptocurrency to circumvent sanctions and finance its war in Ukraine.
Lutnick, the 63-year-old billionaire chief executive officer of Cantor Fitzgerald LP, has made his bank the linchpin of the Tether system. There are now more than $130 billion worth of Tether tokens outstanding, and Cantor holds most of the US Treasury bonds that back them — the reason they’re trusted to be worth $1 each.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...-favorite-cryptocurrency?srnd=homepage-europe
 
As 2cents says.

Also, as Trump announced the deal himself and as he ran on the fact he would do it. It's insane to claim this was Biden who was content to let them murder 10% of a population, increasing the money sent.

The reason I wanted Trump to win, and only one out of two (ceasefire in Ukraine being the other), was this. After that, I don't know and re domestic stuff I couldn't attest to but do sense (could be bullshit) that he will have a more centrist second term.

what are you seeing? I'd like to feel some level of hope

MAGA and Trump are getting more extreme at every turn, it feels like

Talking about Greenland as if it's a chess-piece, Panama, picking fights with Canada, mass deportations, and loony-tunes MAGA types in several key government positions

and he doesn't even need to pretend he gives a feck anymore because he can't get voted in again, well... until he can
 
what are you seeing? I'd like to feel some level of hope

MAGA and Trump are getting more extreme at every turn, it feels like

Talking about Greenland as if it's a chess-piece, Panama, picking fights with Canada, mass deportations, and loony-tunes MAGA types in several key government positions

and he doesn't even need to pretend he gives a feck anymore because he can't get voted in again, well... until he can
It's going to be more extreme and anyone who thinks otherwise is being deliberately obtuse. Last time around Trump was surrounded by "regular" Republicans that tried to limit some of his more extreme and zany ideas. This time around he's surrounded himself with true MAGA believers and billionaires that can smell a unique opportunity to remove all regulations that impede limitless profit for them.
He owns the Senate, the Supreme Court and social media. The Democrats are bereft of ideas and leadership. His only serious opposition is going to be the heads of the armed services if he tries to use the military too much.