Precisely why he has such a wide audience.
The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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It has been used for its antiviral properties. I knew of the drug before the pandemic but I'm not a pharmacist and I tend to side-step all the covid vaccination and alternatives controversies. Didn't go near it (that thread) all the time it was happening. It's just not a debate I want to get in to. I didn't say I liked the podcast because of Ivermectin or some sheep dye, it was because I thought it was a very interesting discussion overall and found Gibson compelling even though I don't agree with him .
What I know of it: what the medical journals I've only now had to look at (for this thread) tell me. Clinical trials and approved in limited cases (and others I think) for its anti-viral properties. As an anti-viral, basically. That's just the studies I've parsed. Honestly, I cannot be going back and forth in these discussions because I don't care about Ivermectin and hold basically no opinion on it. What I've said seems basically to check out to me (based on wiki and scholarly articles) but if I'm wrong about that then I'm happy to admit wrong and end debate surrounding contentious issue I've always avoided early.
Sorry for wall of text.
you're right in the specific sense of the term but in the more relaxed usage (which is what I mean) it just means "coincidence" as in without empirical verification of efficacy of any given substance of practice but claimed efficacy. which efficacy, if it exists, could come from other sources.
Fair enough.
I sidestep that stuff but I take your point.
My view at time and now: it is unorthodox type personal research healing. Very common and very likely to mislead. But I don't pay attention to this stuff. Of all the topics I'm interested in, Coronavirus and its vaccines and its non-vaccines never really made it (or piqued my interest) -- except for the social side to what happened during those years.
Reminds me of those idiots who consumed fish tank cleaner because it contained hydroxycloroquine that people like Joe Rogan were convinced would cure Covid.
EClinicalMedicine is not actually a Lancet journal, it's editorial staff are separate to the Lancet editorial staff and it's policies are not the same, it's part of the Lancet publishing group for convienience as its content broadly aligns
Incidentally the Lancet editor-in-chief is very much on the left side of politics and in the past has been highly critical of Trump and the likes of Boris Johnson, RFK won't win any popularity either
Fair points. Was just for this thread. Cheers.
I don’t really care if you do or don’t, but you might want to consider that Mel went on Rogan spewing a bunch of unsubstantiated medical bullshit in between his rambling about his Bible movie
Doesn't bother me. Most people spew a lot of unsubstantiated bullshit most of the time. That's life. I found it a great interview in parts and don't really care about the invermectin or the virus stuff.
I got the jab for what it's worth in case that's why there's hostility or something. I just don't care about coronavirus or its politics. The Hollywood stuff was very interesting. And that's it for me.
Do I believe the claims? Not really but I don't care. If he believes them then what am I supposed to do? Contact him personally and say "that was a good interview but give me the names of your friends so I can settle a debate on Redcafe".
Not intended to disparage btw. Just not interested in prolonging this particular topic.
Expect "witty" remarks about global warming during the speech.
-5 I heard.
Sylvester Stallone is a Trumper?
Whyyyyyyy
Whyyyyyyy
Splendid job missing the point
Can’t believe you didn’t use “sidestepping”.
old and rich.Sylvester Stallone is a Trumper?
Whyyyyyyy
He's a piece of shit anyhow.Sylvester Stallone is a Trumper?
Whyyyyyyy
He is? I honestly know nothing about actual Sylvester Stallone. Just hoped be was a good guy for some reason.
Sylvester Stallone is a Trumper?
Whyyyyyyy
Watching him and hearing him takes 5 seconds to check out to be honest
forget points, eh.
Good podcast worth watching if you can let go of the whole vaccine/whatever drug thing.
Will say this, the ceasefire deal in the Israeli genocide is more than Biden did in his entire lifetime and I'm not a Trump supporter.
Biden battled inflation down to 3% and gas under 3 $ a gallon. I guess everything he did was to stay in power, rather than try to fix the economy for regular people?!?
Biden‘s whole career is a track record of trying to help the middle class Americans.
Meanwhile, all the other guy has done is enrich himself and his family with billions of dollars, and gave tax cuts to the rich. He has been a scammer his whole life.
If Trump stops the war in Ukraine it will be because he will throw Ukraine under the bus. Everything Trump has done and said so far, benefits Putin.
DOGE working already.
You mean the ceasefire deal that has been in the works for many many months? Trump has nothing to do with it.
"However, there indeed seems to be widespread agreement among diplomats and officials involved that Trump-related factors were quite important in finally spurring the deal to come together."
https://www.vox.com/politics/395338/trump-credit-gaza-ceasefire-witkoff
I don‘t agree with this opinion piece.
It would have been better for Trump if the deal was announced after he took office.
The deal was put together, negotiated and signed through the Biden administration. The basics were in place in May.
They wanted to wrap it up before a volatile unreliable Trump came into office and fecked it up, more likely.
It has been reported for months that Trump has been demanding Netanyahu to have the ceasefire done by the times he assumes the Presidency. For reasons that we can speculate on, Netanyahu has proved far more willing to acquiesce to Trump’s demand on this than he has to any other touted concessions to Biden over the last 15 months.
You're having yourself one helluva day today, aren't you?
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/16/biden-trump-gaza-ceasefire-hostage-deal
Sylvester Stallone is a Trumper?
Whyyyyyyy
Most likely personal wealth I guess? I mean most americans are Trump supporters, he won the popular vote and all.
And yes, its fecking crazy and sad
I don’t get it either. Trump betrayed the law!Sylvester Stallone is a Trumper?
Whyyyyyyy
Operation Warp-Speed was a Trump Adminstration initative, he did many stupid things in trlation to COVID but this wasn't one of them
I am still convinced that if Biden did more to credit Trump on the vaccine, it would not have become as political as it had.
They all bent the knee quicker than warp speed
I am afraid Arnold turned out to be the anti trumper.
Why would Trump have listened to anything Biden had to say?
He was President at the time and Biden was a former VP with no specific healthcare expertise, it became political when the right wing crackpots railed against mask mandates and the like in Red States
I am referring to when Biden was president to promote the vaccine. Give credit to Trump, since Trump loves any kind of adulation. Even hammer home that Trump was vaccinated.
It seems you are right. Netanyahu doesn‘t want to start off on the wrong foot with Trump. He knows Trump will back him as he did in 2016-2020.