I shouldn’t but
The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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To say feck you to the environmentalists. They're 'woke' and anything 'woke' must be destroyed. Of course the fact that the land will end up being bought by his billionaire buddies is a nice bonus. Get ready for more Trump golf courses
Erm, to get more wood? And also as a massive feck you to Canada as the US imports most of its wood from there. And of course, as usual with Trump, it's about the money $$$$$
The stupid part is the US national parks had a record year last year with over 331 MILLION visitors to them. That's almost the same size as the US population. Trump hasn't mentioned this though as part of Musk's clear out of federal employees they fired over 1000 park rangers and workers and a further 700 have handed in their notice.
Trump has signed the executive order basically giving a free for all as he's given the timber contracts to private lumber companies. I wonder what the kickbacks for that were? Again, he's a fecking piece of shit.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation...trump-officials-appear-to-want-it-kept-quiet/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...forest-clearings-foreign-timber-b2709110.html
https://www.ecowatch.com/trump-public-forests-private-logging.html
It will reach a boiling point eventually.
Whether it'll happen 3 months or 3 years from now, if they keep going down this road and doing everything possible to polarize the people more and more things will get very ugly. Maybe a full on civil war will be out of the question but at the very least there are going to be violent riots across the country between MAGA and its opposition where people will die. The way things are going I fear it's just a matter of when and not if.
Yeah actually that makes the most sense. He’s taking a wrecking ball to that country. He’s determined to bleed every cent he can for him and his mates in this term. A president should be doing everything that he can to help the people. But.. well it’s just disgusting and even more so that nobody can stop him
Don't worry, the Democratic politicians will show up to his next speech with two ribbons to fix everything.
I think the notion that post cold war Russia wasn't hostile to the US, that it was just the Soviet regime is misguided. Russia were forced to give up their influence, because they simply couldn't maintain control. It wasn't some sort of noble choice to set these countries free.Just to expand on my earlier reply Pogue:
The west, and the US in particular has always had this weird notion that everyone in the world secretly wants to be like them which in some circles has now created the notion that post cold war Russia would've become a western style democracy and poor Putin just wanted to be left alone, but was made hostile to the west again by NATO.
Putin had plenty of chances to move towards the west before his invasions. He didn't by choice, because he wants to restore the glory of the Russian empire. He was provoked in the sense that a bully is provoked into taking someone's lunch money, because their victim didn't hand it over by choice. You can of course argue that's how the world works and that it's natural selection, but that's an entirely different argument. Somehow "blaming" NATO and the west is rubbish.
I would think the invasion rather proves the need for NATO, rather than being evidence it’s dangerous to make alliances.
Has any alliance ever been blamed for a war in history, simply by existing?
Seems to me that alliances have, historically, been a way to prevent war.
Or did Britain’s alliance with Poland force the Nazis to invade?
Has any alliance ever been blamed for a war in history, simply by existing?
Seems to me that alliances have, historically, been a way to prevent war.
Or did Britain’s alliance with Poland force the Nazis to invade?
That particular article was written in this delusionary period of politicians being convinced that the end of history was reached and all the countries will just want to become the bastion of freedom and democracy that US is.
Nice to see you ignored my post and question for the third time after I pointed out the reality of how Ukraine war occuredJust to expand on my earlier reply Pogue:
Possibly being less dependent on Canadian lumber?
Afghan women who fled Taliban to study abroad face return after USAID freeze
More than 80 Afghan women who fled the Taliban to pursue higher education in Oman now face imminent deportation back to Afghanistan, following the Trump administration's sweeping freeze on foreign aid programmes.Funded by the US Agency for International Development (USAID), their scholarships were abruptly terminated after a funding freeze ordered by President Donald Trump when he returned to office in January.
"It was heart-breaking," one student told the BBC, speaking anonymously for fear of reprisals. "Everyone was shocked and crying. We've been told we will be sent back within two weeks."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4k25wlw21o
Much more of this to come, I imagine.
America first or something
Putin wasn’t even in power when this piece was written. That’s changed things a tad, eh?Just to expand on my earlier reply Pogue:
Didn't think it would end well.
Trump looking to reign in Musk.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwd1722yr2o
Trump looking to reign in Musk.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwd1722yr2o
Put this in the Ukraine thread as well, but it deserves to be in here as well in reference to my earlier post of how Trump is affecting the world now and not just the US like he did in his previous term.
I also think we should stop using the term 'America First' because it's really not at all. He doesn't give a flying feck. It's really Trump first and his rich mates second. That's all he really cares about.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cg70jylp32gt
Russian attack kills 20. President Trump will be pleased.
Russian attack kills 20. President Trump will be pleased.
This one really gets to me. The American wilderness is so spectacular - only for that worthless piece of shit to ravage it
He’s definitely up Russias arse. Doesn’t give a toss about Ukraine.
That is a pretty chilling thought for one of the world great democracies.
But I do understand what you are saying.
Yeah…the hilariously deluded take that turned out to be very prescient.
Doctors push back as parents embrace Kennedy and vitamin A in Texas measles outbreak
https://www.reuters.com/business/he...dy-vitamin-texas-measles-outbreak-2025-03-08/
DOGE job cuts bring pain to Trump heartland
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/doge-job-cuts-shake-trump-voting-west-virginia-town-2025-03-07/
The contrary also applies. The decision to expand NATO wasn’t taken as some sort of noble course to sustain the freedom of said countries. The main factor behind it was Russia’s weakness.
We simply don’t know how Russia would’ve evolved without this repeated provocation as they see it. It’s counter factual history at this point, but it’s pretty safe to assume it probably would’ve been better than it is now (if only a little bit).
NATO is America in Russian eyes, and is in effect in neutral eyes. That’s the point…it’s America by proxy.
In the not too distant past I had a more, shall we say “gentle” view on people like this. “Victims of misinformation and all that”
Since Trump has returned, seeing the outright evil he is doing at home and abroad, and the fact that it is being celebrated by his supporters, this stance has changed. These stories now fill me with delight. I don’t just mean on a “It’s clear the only way Americans will learn is if they actually suffer” kind of way, but on a personal level.
I touched on this before when talking about Vivek, that as a person of Indian descent, I can never wrap my mind around how these people can align themselves with the side that is clearly racist and does not like them or see them as equal, so them suffering the consequences they hoped they were inflicting on other people is great. Bring more of it on, I will enjoy them like the meltdowns on RAWK and Bluemoon.
Perhaps he mightn’t have been either?
Prescient about what? That Russia was going to turn to oligarchy and get back to power projecting ways? That could be told by anyone with even slightest interest in the region in the 90s. His claim is that if it wasn't for NATO enlargement Russia would somehow be a bastion of liberal democracy, which was braindead even at that time.
The reality is that if NATO hadn’t expanded its membership, Russia would likely have started their imperialist march through the former Soviet Union a lot earlier.
Something to celebrate with his mate Putin
The main thing they shouldn’t have done over the past two decades was to encourage Ukrainian aspirations to join NATO.
Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia would for sure look completely different today. For the most part it also started a lot earlier too, it's just that in a lot of Western countries Belarus, Transnistria, Ukraine pre-2014 and Georgia are not seen as examples of Russian Imperialism, despite Belarus being probably the perfect model of how Putin expects to reabsorb a country.
Explain that reasoning in detail. We're in for something really funny.
Just wait until smallpox comes back.
Boo fecking hoo! That's just so typical of the selfish attitude of so many voters. If they still had their jobs they wouldn't give a flying feck about other people losing their jobs, and you know damn well they would be supporting everything else he's doing and proudly claiming he's their President and he's doing exactly what they voted for him to do.
Me, myself and I. I'm alright Jack, feck everyone else.
The chickens have come home to roost for more than a few Trump supporters since he was elected and to make matters worse those chickens are laying eggs worth their weight in gold so they can't afford to buy them.
As I said in an earlier post, Trump is slowly losing support among some supporters. The more he carries on like this and the worse the economy gets and the more jobs get lost, the more support he's going to lose.
He hates criticism or pushback so we can only hope people voice their opinions in the streets and (as I said earlier) the press start to unite and hold him to account for things like this. We know he watches news channels 24/7 and loves his polls, so if the tide turns against him he will definitely know about it and won't be happy at all. The question is, how will he react if it does continue to turn?
He definitely did! Up until ~2007.
Nothing screams moving towards west like murdering journalists, political opposition, poisoning a presidential candidate or destabilising neighboring countries.
I suppose there are two ways of looking at this.
1. He's going out of his way to help Putin by slowly removing US support for Ukraine to facilitate a ceasefire that is favorable to Putin, so he can then reset relations and start doing business with Russia (Venal, Predatory).
2. He desperately wants to make a deal and take credit for it and is convinced he has more leverage over Zelenskyy than Putin to capitulate to ceasefire terms. (Transactional, Art of the Deal - esque)
There's probably a combination of both at work imo.
He's also desperate to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. That Leavit woman thinks he deserves already
It’s counter factual history at this point. If he had come to power regardless, would he (and Russia) have pursued the exact same course as he has?
Can it even come back? Isn't it eradicated in the form we know it?Just wait until smallpox comes back.
Boo fecking hoo! That's just so typical of the selfish attitude of so many voters. If they still had their jobs they wouldn't give a flying feck about other people losing their jobs, and you know damn well they would be supporting everything else he's doing and proudly claiming he's their President and he's doing exactly what they voted for him to do.
Me, myself and I. I'm alright Jack, feck everyone else.
The chickens have come home to roost for more than a few Trump supporters since he was elected and to make matters worse those chickens are laying eggs worth their weight in gold so they can't afford to buy them.
As I said in an earlier post, Trump is slowly losing support among some supporters. The more he carries on like this and the worse the economy gets and the more jobs get lost, the more support he's going to lose.
He hates criticism or pushback so we can only hope people voice their opinions in the streets and (as I said earlier) the press start to unite and hold him to account for things like this. We know he watches news channels 24/7 and loves his polls, so if the tide turns against him he will definitely know about it and won't be happy at all. The question is, how will he react if it does continue to turn?
Putin has hinted that Ukraine is a fake country and his ideas on Ukraine eventually culminated in the 2021 essay.
Putin keeps doing and saying things that hurt his argument about NATO. That 2021 essay was, from a PR strategic perspective, not smart. It exposed his radical imperialist ideas about Ukraine to the world. If he wanted us to really believe this was about NATO then writing that 2021 essay was a dumb thing to do. In essence, Putin betrayed himself (in my opinion).
Putin's Russia was already showing provocative/aggressive behavior towards Ukraine way before, with the Tuzla incident in 2003 and energy disputes in the 2000s to pressure Ukraine. This was pre-2008 Bucharest.
Russian FSB agents were then on the ground in Ukraine coordinating the Maidan crackdown with Yanukovych's government. Putin's increasingly interventionist policies on Ukraine was likely to clash with Ukraine because Ukrainians didn't want to live under the thumb of oligarchic corrupt governments.