Donald Trump has confirmed Elon Musk will co-lead a government department in his cabinet.
And in other news water is wet
And in other news water is wet
The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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From what I heard, Trump was actually considering him in 2016 because he looked like he was from central casting, but thought better of it at the time.
It will be interesting to see how the Senate react to this since this guy has no senior experience and has spent the past decade as a TV guy.
Some people are hoping that trump voters will suffer and will be happy when it happens and I'm the one seeing things black and white?
Better than Tucker?
He's also a combat veteran with tours of duty in iraq and Afghanistan, and is a Major in The Minnesota National Guard with 2 Bronze Stars, so probably as qualified as anyone else Trump might consider given that Generals aren't his thing anymore, and he has 7 kids so presumably is pro-life!
The department of redundancy department
Named after Elon's cryptocurrency. Wonder how long they spent on coming up with that only to end in a maniacal self fulfilled laugh when they did.
Should have seen that coming. AliExpress and DHgate are getting all giddy watching this unfold. More "patriots" to rinse of their money. And hey you do you China. Take advantage. Because while that carton of eggs may never return to 1950s pricing at least you ll have closet full of Trump merch.
Except that the military is run by a civilian and actual military service for the DoD job hasn't been required. Its usually civilian technocrats with a lot of civilian experience and/or political appointees.
cutting down on bureaucracy by making a whole new department (named after some stupid meme crypto)
Hiring in a national guard guy for his military credentials is peak Trump.
How long will it take for the complete breakdown in relations between Trump & Musk do we think.
I'm going with 6 months.
I'm going with 6 months.
A lot of people are hoping they suffer the consequeces of their actions, not in a physical sense, but financially, when they realise they aren't better off, indeed the reverse if Trump follows thru on what he promised them/
The value of US exports in 2023 was $3,053.5 billion, the total value of imports to the United States in 2023 was $3.83 trillion, adding 20-60% tariffs to that figure is insane
Everyone will paying for that or doing without because those imports won't be made in the US, especially not if he deports millions of immigrants
Unsurprisingly the people he's putting into these high ranking positions looks laughable and at the same time scary.
Well you can't expect Trump to follow the norms, he never has, so in my book this is probably as good as it will get, at least this guy will have some semblence of how the military works, which is probably more than some of the alternatives he probably considered
Well before that imo. They are both peak narcissists and so all it will take is for Trump to get the perception that the media is hyping up Musk's decision making relevance and he's gone.
Can't wait till he recommends thousands of cuts that lead to trump voters losing their jobs
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The Mooch reckons 6 months, TBH I'd be surprosed if it was that long
Did I miss something, Trump buses??
I wonder how Musk will be able to manage his schedule being CEO of several large organisations as well as a cabinet secretary. All whilst finding time to tweet hundreds of times per day.
Are government officials even allowed to be executives/board members of private organisations whilst in office?
Your last line tells you why, his CEO work obviously doesn't take up much of his time
Generally no because of potential conflict of interests, but there are exceptions and it's not technically against the law
based on the wording, DOGE is an extra-governmental body.
Conflicts of interest are generally ignored under Trump, who himself didn’t divest from his own Trump organization business interests during his first term.
And I very much doubt his new government role role will either. His first act should probably be to remove himself from all his highly paid positions in the name of efficiency since he clearly isn't doing much in any of them.
Didn't Trump hand over control to his sons when he took office? On paper anyway.
So why is Trump appointing people to run it if it's not part of government?
Yes, but he himself never divested.
https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...m-his-business-while-president-idUSKBN14V21K/
Why bother pretending thesedays? He's been voted in twice and now has a clear mandate to do what he wants but let's not cover the fact America to a degree hasnt been like this for decades, the constant corny merch advertising, corporate greed etc, now it's just out in the open at a Government level, America has more or less has been like this.
I was referring to him being an executive of a private organisation whilst holding office. I know it's basically semantics when you own the company, but if you are appointed as an executive of said company, you're legally responsible to act for the benefit of the company and shareholders. Being a CEO of a company that provides services to the government, and being head of a goverment department that potentially regulates or influences the services you provide is untenable.
So Musk should have to resign from his executive positions and board memberships of any of those companies are potentially subject to his new oversight.
Or just give up the pretence that corporate power controls what governments do and let them openly dictate policy.
Well, certainly since the 80s, Reagan largely caused all that followed, one way or the other.
If it wasn't for Reagan, the "lets run government like a business"-stuff, with all that it implies, would largely have been kept where it belong, instead it was popularized to the masses.
The common good got lost along the way, for rugged individualism, took a bit later to catch on in Europe, but last 10-15 years has been much of the same.
Social democracy, or whatever remains, is being voted out everywhere in the west, people shouldn't come back to complain later, its what they voted for, so i don't have much pity.
These appointments are laughably bad
So Musk will use his expertise on running Twitter to the ground efficiently to do the same to taxpayer's money.