Actually a brilliant point
The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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What exactly is his plan with the department of education? Just close it and force the states to deal with it?
Why would anyone shut a department of education anyway?
No idea, I can understand the whole idea the big bad guy wants to dumb down education to control the masses. But for that you subtly use the department, not just close it. I just don't understand the thought process at all.
I haven't read anything official about it. So far I've just seen his usual stuff but no formal announcement.
They want private and charter schools largely independent of government standards. By not taking federal money they don't have to comply with many things such as Title IX which addresses and prohibits discrimination in things such as admissions. They want to dictate the curriculum and offer conservative Christian education and also - by making it harder and more closely to attend schooling they will create a new true underclass of citizens who will only be good for the lesser jobs.
They have tried to tear down the credibility of public education with their moms for Liberty shit and other bs efforts. Many different efforts have taken place at all levels from the state on down as well on both the legislative and regulatory front. But - they dont think it's going fast enough and meanwhile there are a lot of wealthy donors from private to the large churches jumping to expand the initiative rapidly. Tearing down the one body that keeps it all together is guaranteed to cause chaos and in chaos they thrive.
Brainwashing to create lifelong voters and squashing the plebs further down to concentrate the wealth even more - the indoctrination way. The fact they got so many Gen Z votes this time is probably the thing that gives them the most pleasure. Especially because they haven't even gone nearly as far as they plan to mold the minds of the young ones.
Oh god
I was actually going to ask this. In MAGA world, a NATO "critic" ranges from "we should help Putin bomb NATO countries" through to "NATO states are cheap fecks"
Holy shit
Shhhh. That doesn’t fit the narrative
I wonder what will happen to all the federal student loans that are owned by the Dept of Education.
Directly from the Project 2025 document:
"Bureaucrats at the Department of Education inject racist, anti-American, ahistorical propaganda into America’s classrooms;"
Dismantling/eliminating the Department of Education may not be as easy as said. But there are reasons why the right, and the religious right, want to get rid of which the Time article below mentions. I excerpted the bit about what falls within the Department that may prove difficult to dismantle.
https://time.com/7174651/what-trump-winning-means-for-education/
Experts tell TIME that dismantling the Department of Education is likely improbable. “It is entirely feasible to close down the Department of Education, but the functions of the Department of Education will need to continue,” says Ted Mitchell, president of American Council on Education, an organization that convenes higher education associations to discuss student issues.
That’s because the Education Department has numerous moving parts. It houses the Office of Civil Rights, which enforces federal civil rights laws across schools to protect students against discrimination. Regulations by the Education Department also affect college sports, which Josh Cowen, an education policy Michigan State University professor and author of The Privateers, How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers, says Republicans would likely not want to see impacted.
https://time.com/7174651/what-trump-winning-means-for-education/
Experts tell TIME that dismantling the Department of Education is likely improbable. “It is entirely feasible to close down the Department of Education, but the functions of the Department of Education will need to continue,” says Ted Mitchell, president of American Council on Education, an organization that convenes higher education associations to discuss student issues.
That’s because the Education Department has numerous moving parts. It houses the Office of Civil Rights, which enforces federal civil rights laws across schools to protect students against discrimination. Regulations by the Education Department also affect college sports, which Josh Cowen, an education policy Michigan State University professor and author of The Privateers, How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers, says Republicans would likely not want to see impacted.
Yeah I'll feel really confident that someone like Rubio - who cowered on the public stage as soon as Trump said anything back to him - will make for a great Secretary of State dealing with hard nosed world leaders and diplomats. What a clown show. Then again, Trump will probably simply go around the State dept. so this is probably convenient from his perspective. And then we haven't even touched on Noem yet.
Rubio would be a decent pick given some of the alternatives mentioned. Rick Grennel shouldn't be anywhere near the levers of power, and frankly, there would've been questions asked by Republican Senators if he had to go through the confirmation process.
To use a common CAF saying - "Standards have gone"
Former secretaries of state include Blinken, Tillerson, Pompeo, Clinton, and Kissinger. Not sure Rubio is gonna be much worse, to be honest.
Maybe not worse but lets face it, Rubio has flipped most of his beliefs to gain a position of power and stay relevant, he's not alone in that though
He is more qualified than pretty much all of them to be fair. Probably not a great choice simply cause there aren’t great Republican choice, but far better than total sycophants such as Richard Grenell.
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Rubio would be one of the few sensible appointments Trump has made while in office. He's a slimeball but a competent politician at least. Kristi Noem on the other hand, feck me.
Only good thing about Trump winning is that the non-maga cultists that voted for him will have a very hard 4 years ahead, specially all those latinos and immigrants. Alot of schadenfreude in the next 4 years.
Yep, it's great that people will suffer.
If they voted for him they fully deserved it, FAFO.
Some of the people who died recently in portugal because of the emergency services failures voted for the current government. Guess they deserved it.
That doesnt make any sense, AD didnt campaign on defunding INEM. While Trump campaigned on mass deportations, cutting alot of federal programs that help alot of people, mostly his voters and replace competent federal workers with his minions (Project 2025)
wth.
If you voted for trump and then he does what he said he was going to do and you don't like it, then tough shit.
The 2% requirement is the one thing I have the least issue with. It is understandable with the previous order of things how that stopped to be observed at some point, however looking at the world now it's only fair to expect everyone to pay their mandated due.
Fair enough, guess I'm one of those weirdos that doesn't enjoy random folks suffering.
Swamp the drain.
in what way are they random?
A random woman that gives little importance to politics and votes republican because it's sort of a family tradition or everyone is a republican where she lives or she got some social pressure or misinformation, whatever. She might find herself denied healthcare and suffer serious harm or die.
This is just example of many possible. Feeling happy these people will suffer is something I'm glad I don't understand.
So, the next time OpenAI, censors something about Trump/conservatives, he can close them down?
OpenAI won't be a non-profit for much longer, right? And I don't think he'll move against SV so aggressively.
The bill lets one of his cabinet (Treasury Secretary) unilateral power to move against anything he finds is "terror-supporting". No evidence is required, it is a personal decision of the secretary.
It is already very illegal to provide material support for terrorism. And material support laws have been used, at times aggressively, to bring criminal charges against people and groups accused of supporting proscribed terrorist groups abroad.
The new bill on terror designations for tax-exempt nonprofits, however, would slash through the pesky red tape — constitutional checks and balances — of due process, presumption of innocence, and other protections afforded to defendants accused in criminal court of providing material support to terror groups.
The new bill on terror designations for tax-exempt nonprofits, however, would slash through the pesky red tape — constitutional checks and balances — of due process, presumption of innocence, and other protections afforded to defendants accused in criminal court of providing material support to terror groups.
Most likely it will end private donations to UNRWA (with the US govt having stopped already), Medical Aid for Palestine, and probably to Btselem (the Israeli human rights organisation).
But, as the enemy of the moment changes, this will expand.
IIRC, it will have a somewhat similar impact to the Georgia bill that was protested, and some laws in India about funding of NGOs.
Not that it adds to the discussion, but OpenAI is moving/has moved to a for-profit organization.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/...ive-sam-altman-equity-sources-say-2024-09-25/