The Trump Presidency - Part 2

Yeah right, Americans' trust in mass media is at record lows, and thankfully young people are less so.

That has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with being gaslit by Trump and his stooges. You seem to have fallen for it as well. The media are doing their jobs as a check on political power as they always have.
 
They weren't loyal. Pompeo criticized Trump mildly after Jan 6th and Haley has been going after him all year until she dropped out. Sounds like the key positions may go to Mike Rodgers and Marco Rubio.

Pompeo is a vile piece of shit who wanted to murder Assange for leaking stuff that made the CIA, which he was in charge of, look bad.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pompeo-s...eport-should-all-be-prosecuted-234907037.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kidnappi...t-war-plans-against-wiki-leaks-090057786.html



For someone who supposedly loves a free press, I would've thought you'd be totally against, you know, murdering journalists.
 
That has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with being gaslit by Trump and his stooges. You seem to have fallen for it as well. The media are doing their jobs as a check on political power as they always have.

No, they’re not. Honestly, just drop the nonsense. The press had complete, unrestricted access to Biden for four years, yet they managed to keep his mental decline under wraps until it was impossible to ignore after the debate. Meanwhile, the supposed "check" on political power was sharp as a tack—yeah, right.


 


Kamala was invited to advertise herself on that same media, but instead chose to go to "Call Her Daddy" podcast. The result is 850k views vs 48M (just Rogan's number). She could have just asked, and I am sure the same podcasters that had Trump would have had Kamala too. However, her followers said that she is too good for that. Elitism has always been off-putting to an average person.
 
That has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with being gaslit by Trump and his stooges. You seem to have fallen for it as well. The media are doing their jobs as a check on political power as they always have.

Were you pro or against Iraq war? The reason I am asking is because media was very much for it and dissident voices back then were getting cancelled before cancelling was cool.

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/phil-donahue-iraq-war
 
Kamala was invited to advertise herself on that same media, but instead chose to go to "Call Her Daddy" podcast. The result is 850k views vs 48M (just Rogan's number). She could have just asked, and I am sure the same podcasters that had Trump would have had Kamala too. However, her followers said that she is too good for that. Elitism has always been off-putting to an average person.
1) she told Rogan she’d do the show, he just needed to travel to her.

2) Trump owes how many venues money?
 
1) she told Rogan she’d do the show, he just needed to travel to her.

2) Trump owes how many venues money?

1. Who needed who in this situation? To whom else did Rogan travel to do a podcast where Rogan is the host? I am not even going to go into time and question limitations that her campaign requested. Rogan had zero issues with questions that were off limit, but he wanted her ass in Austin, and he wanted podcast to be a typical Rogan podcast lasting 2 to 3 hours.

2. I don't know.
 
No, they’re not. Honestly, just drop the nonsense. The press had complete, unrestricted access to Biden for four years, yet they managed to keep his mental decline under wraps until it was impossible to ignore after the debate. Meanwhile, the supposed "check" on political power was sharp as a tack—yeah, right.




You speak as if the media is a single organism when it is made up of dozens of outlets, each with their own journalistic standards. Many outlets did cover concerns about Biden, so that's not a very convincing talking point. It seems you've been bamboozled with MAGA gaslighting about the value of a free press, and are now using it to advance Trump's narrative.
 
1. Who needed who in this situation? To whom else did Rogan travel to do a podcast where Rogan is the host? I am not even going to go into time and question limitations that her campaign requested. Rogan had zero issues with questions that were off limit, but he wanted her ass in Austin, and he wanted podcast to be a typical Rogan podcast lasting 2 to 3 hours.

2. I don't know.
1) she’s the Vice President of the United States of America. She gets to make travel requests. Rogan didn’t travel because he already knew whose side he was on.

2) I’m shocked.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics...eds-thousands-unpaid-bills/story?id=115415455
 
Pompeo is a vile piece of shit who wanted to murder Assange for leaking stuff that made the CIA, which he was in charge of, look bad.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pompeo-s...eport-should-all-be-prosecuted-234907037.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kidnappi...t-war-plans-against-wiki-leaks-090057786.html



For someone who supposedly loves a free press, I would've thought you'd be totally against, you know, murdering journalists.


Breaking US law or facilitating someone breaking it, isn't what the media do. So back to square one you go.
 
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This is really sharp from many angles.
1. Re-affirms American fealty to Israel
2. Attacks protestors, a popular move (the far-right, centre-right, and centre dislike protests of any kinds, in this case a large part of the centre-left too)
3. Attacks universities, the industry with the highest ideological skew, and raids them for cash
4. Makes universities less important, draining their future cash reserves
5. Makes universities less important, reducing the chance of educational polarisation which is the biggest GOP barrier to permanent multi-racial majority
6. These degrees might help his non-college base's income prospects
7. Ideological indoctrination via his chosen professors at this new academy.

If I was the Dems I'd start getting serious about a class-based politics. Since I am a university research employee, I will start getting serious about planning to move back home or to a more science-friendly funding environment like China.
 
1) she’s the Vice President of the United States of America. She gets to make travel requests. Rogan didn’t travel because he already knew whose side he was on.

2) I’m shocked.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics...eds-thousands-unpaid-bills/story?id=115415455

1. Not for much longer. She didn't even earn that. She was getting demolished in 2020 primaries. She didn't even make it to New Hampshire primary, which is second in the country. Having her as a vice president and then having her run for a president was very irresponsible by the DNC.

2. He should pay the debt. Listen, I am not a Trump fun, I just somehow can stomach him a bit more than democratic party since 2016 primaries.
 
1. Not for much longer. She didn't even earn that. She was getting demolished in 2020 primaries. She didn't even make it to New Hampshire primary, which is second in the country. Having her as a vice president and then having her run for a president was very irresponsible by the DNC.

2. He should pay the debt. Listen, I am not a Trump fun, I just somehow can stomach him a bit more than democratic party since 2016 primaries.
1. None of that is relevant.

2. I don’t believe you.
 
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This is really sharp from many angles.
1. Re-affirms American fealty to Israel
2. Attacks protestors, a popular move (the far-right, centre-right, and centre dislike protests of any kinds, in this case a large part of the centre-left too)
3. Attacks universities, the industry with the highest ideological skew, and raids them for cash
4. Makes universities less important, draining their future cash reserves
5. Makes universities less important, reducing the chance of educational polarisation which is the biggest GOP barrier to permanent multi-racial majority
6. These degrees might help his non-college base's income prospects
7. Ideological indoctrination via his chosen professors at this new academy.

If I was the Dems I'd start getting serious about a class-based politics. Since I am a university research employee, I will start getting serious about planning to move back home or to a more science-friendly funding environment like China.

Which part is the above is most objectionable to you ?
 
Which part is the above is most objectionable to you ?

The notion that universities coddled anti-Israel protestors, when they did the opposite. I saw it happen with my own eyes.
The high likelihood that trump university #2 will be filled with charlatans. Prager U comes to mind.
Science funding, which I rely on, likely getting cut, since it largely goes to woke universities. But that is a personal problem, not a problem with the plan. I don't think America will have short-term issues if it cuts basic funding, since tax cuts will likely create a pharma R&D boom.

China is the only country with a science research budget, including the basic research I do, comparable to the US. Lack of silly partisan politics leading to short-term changes of this sort is another attractive feature. I hope I can find a stable position there, since there won't be one here.

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Anyone who refers to Julian Assange as a "journalist" needs to seriously re-evaluate what he's done.

He's consistently compromised the national security of the West, got hold of operational level plans and tactical level documentation of said operations, which led to the deaths of active servicemen of Multiple Western countries. He leaked the identities implicitly of multiple actively serving MI5 and CIA assets around the world, resulting in their deaths.

Julian Assange should be in ADX Florence. Absolute disgrace of a human being and a pathetic excuse of a journalist. A drone strike is too good for him (despite it being stupid due to the diplomatic implications), but Pompeo was more than right that the man was a genuine bonda-fide class A threat to national security and has yet to face the consequences of his actions.
 
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This is really sharp from many angles.
1. Re-affirms American fealty to Israel
2. Attacks protestors, a popular move (the far-right, centre-right, and centre dislike protests of any kinds, in this case a large part of the centre-left too)
3. Attacks universities, the industry with the highest ideological skew, and raids them for cash
4. Makes universities less important, draining their future cash reserves
5. Makes universities less important, reducing the chance of educational polarisation which is the biggest GOP barrier to permanent multi-racial majority
6. These degrees might help his non-college base's income prospects
7. Ideological indoctrination via his chosen professors at this new academy.

If I was the Dems I'd start getting serious about a class-based politics. Since I am a university research employee, I will start getting serious about planning to move back home or to a more science-friendly funding environment like China.

By the sounds of it he's trying to make Universities cheaper if not free and without any involvement with politics? Not that I ever went to college in America but isn't Harvard and the like bloody expensive for no real reason? Bit like the UK really where you pay thousands for some degree you'll likely never use, obviously I could be wrong but that doesn't sound too bad well... if done right
 
By the sounds of it he's trying to make Universities cheaper if not free and without any involvement with politics? Not that I ever went to college in America but isn't Harvard and the like bloody expensive for no real reason? Bit like the UK really where you pay thousands for some degree you'll likely never use, obviously I could be wrong but that doesn't sound too bad well... if done right

Oh, the existing system is a total scam, and is ripe for being torn down. Worth noting that state-level Republicans have been tearing down their own affordable state schools for ideological reasons, including shutting down departments that were making profits. So, with that, and Trump's previous university experience in mind, and with the U of Austin/Prager U as template, I would guess this would be a right-wing indoctrination factory with questionable standards.

There was a proposal from Bernie in 2021 to similarly raid private endowments, to subsidise students going to state schools, so that anyone with parents earning under 100k gets free college. It didn't involve creating a new academy with unknown standards, and said nothing about "wokeness". For obvious reasons I'd trust that more. For equally obvious reasons, neither Biden nor Manchin were interested in it, and it's a totally dead bill.
 
Our state superintendent of education is pushing to add Prager U into the social studies curriculum.

As I mentioned in the other post, they've been gutting state schools in every red state, cutting the faculty size by a third or half. It's an alliance of the GOP and private consultants, and they've spread to other non-nationally-famous small private colleges in blue states too. As part of what I would call short-sighted cost cutting, they are eliminating entire departments, including ones currently turning a profit. I've been reading articles about this for the past 2-3 years.

If the Democratic party had a self-preservation instinct, they would have done or at least proposed something about this. Without colleges as an indoctrination pipeline to social liberalism, the party has very bad long-term prospects. And if this Prager-Trump American academy thing works in the other way...
 
As I mentioned in the other post, they've been gutting state schools in every red state, cutting the faculty size by a third or half. It's an alliance of the GOP and private consultants, and they've spread to other non-nationally-famous small private colleges in blue states too. As part of what I would call short-sighted cost cutting, they are eliminating entire departments, including ones currently turning a profit. I've been reading articles about this for the past 2-3 years.

If the Democratic party had a self-preservation instinct, they would have done or at least proposed something about this. Without colleges as an indoctrination pipeline to social liberalism, the party has very bad long-term prospects. And if this Prager-Trump American academy thing works in the other way...
What’s really bad is that they’ve got allies in the public school system.

There’s tons of Trump supporting history teachers in South Carolina and I know that would also be true across the board in red states. These folks won’t bat an eye at implementing the Prager stuff
 
No, they’re not. Honestly, just drop the nonsense. The press had complete, unrestricted access to Biden for four years, yet they managed to keep his mental decline under wraps until it was impossible to ignore after the debate. Meanwhile, the supposed "check" on political power was sharp as a tack—yeah, right.[/MEDIA]
From what I can see, the US media does keep a pretty tight leash on their politicians although in recent times it has become more about taking sides. But isn’t it still pretty even with Fox News being absolutely huge and pro Republicans?

If you want to see what a bent mainstream media is like, see my country where the mainstream media is genuinely in the palms of the governing party. Seems like US is still pretty solid in this regard.

Only a matter of time before Americans lose faith in digital media too, with Twitter being a cesspit of misinformation and right wing depravity.
 
No, they’re not. Honestly, just drop the nonsense. The press had complete, unrestricted access to Biden for four years, yet they managed to keep his mental decline under wraps until it was impossible to ignore after the debate. Meanwhile, the supposed "check" on political power was sharp as a tack—yeah, right.

That is very obviously not true. Biden was hidden even from his own party. That's not an excuse, it's a scathing critique, and everyone relevant knew or should have known something was very wrong, but they really tried to hide it. He did no meetings.

Obviously parts of mainstream media is set up to not catch, or even excuse, things like that, but you're overplaying your hand when you already have an easy win.
 
Tbf to Trump, when she made it clear she had no idea what caused the civil war, she disqualified herself. I'd like to think that President stable genius prefers to surround himself with competent people who understand the history of the GOAT nation.
 
From what I can see, the US media does keep a pretty tight leash on their politicians although in recent times it has become more about taking sides. But isn’t it still pretty even with Fox News being absolutely huge and pro Republicans?

If you want to see what a bent mainstream media is like, see my country where the mainstream media is genuinely in the palms of the governing party. Seems like US is still pretty solid in this regard.

Only a matter of time before Americans lose faith in digital media too, with Twitter being a cesspit of misinformation and right wing depravity.
Fox is obviously a very right wing media, but they are the only right wing big TV. ABC, CNN, CBS have some left bias, while NBC is left, and its MSNBC is completely left.Then you have some of the most important newspapers such as New York Times and the Washington Post who are also left, without right counter-parts. And finally, the Silicon Valley companies who are even more important (the likes of Google Search are more important than traditional media nowadays) are very left on social issues, but obviously right when it comes to dodging taxes to please their shareholders.
 
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This is really sharp from many angles.
1. Re-affirms American fealty to Israel
2. Attacks protestors, a popular move (the far-right, centre-right, and centre dislike protests of any kinds, in this case a large part of the centre-left too)
3. Attacks universities, the industry with the highest ideological skew, and raids them for cash
4. Makes universities less important, draining their future cash reserves
5. Makes universities less important, reducing the chance of educational polarisation which is the biggest GOP barrier to permanent multi-racial majority
6. These degrees might help his non-college base's income prospects
7. Ideological indoctrination via his chosen professors at this new academy.

If I was the Dems I'd start getting serious about a class-based politics. Since I am a university research employee, I will start getting serious about planning to move back home or to a more science-friendly funding environment like China.
I can't tell if you're joking. It reads like the right-populist version of Harris' 2019 plan to forgive debts for Pell Grant recipients who start a business that operates for three years in disadvantaged communities. Just throwing ten thousand things into a blender and ending up with a grey mushy slop that tastes like shit.
 
Anyone who refers to Julian Assange as a "journalist" needs to seriously re-evaluate what he's done.

He's consistently compromised the national security of the West, got hold of operational level plans and tactical level documentation of said operations, which led to the deaths of active servicemen of Multiple Western countries. He leaked the identities implicitly of multiple actively serving MI5 and CIA assets around the world, resulting in their deaths.

Julian Assange should be in ADX Florence. Absolute disgrace of a human being and a pathetic excuse of a journalist. A drone strike is too good for him (despite it being stupid due to the diplomatic implications), but Pompeo was more than right that the man was a genuine bonda-fide class A threat to national security and has yet to face the consequences of his actions.
Amen to that.
 
I think he’s a gifted political athlete, anyone not admitting that is living in cockoo land. He’s a hard working campaigner, I think he cares about the country, and I think his political intuition is generally correct.

I think he was much maligned during the first term by the media, and the democrats, FBI etc with the baseless Russia hoax, and I think the continued lawfare against him contributed to his decisive win.

As per your specific examples you quoted, that’s your perception and framing - but he campaigned and won on the issues, the Dems campaigned on vibes and celebrity endorsements.

Personality wise I think he’s affable, but also not intellectually curious and a megalomaniac. That’s my impression of him, I’ve never met the man, so I’m judging through my biased lense.

Finally I didn’t and wouldn’t vote for him (I’m a NY registered Democrat), but I wish him well in running the country as I want us to be successful.

Is that the baseless Russia hoax where a dozen people who worked closely with Trump went to jail or are you talking about a different one?
 
Cares about the country :lol:

Even if you voted for him because you think he's cool or whatever, there's no excuse except brainrot to think he actually cares about the country. Most of his supporters probably don't think does. Because he so obviously doesn't.