The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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Been a while since I've seen Jimmy Carter appear in public.

Now he was not a great President but he echoed what was good and right about "The American Dream". His speeches and ideals still have resonance today so he wasn't as bad as some make him out. And his post-presidency work is of the highest order. He's certainly a great man - honourable and truthful.

Trump is the opposite. He echoes the worst traits. Narcissistic, bully and an unwavering attitude that it's never his fault.

They share one similarity - they both got the keys to the White House as political outsiders. Hopefully they'll have one more - both one-term Presidents. Other than that Trump doesn't belong in the same class as Jimmy Carter.
 
calling to disrupt the inauguration, smashing windows, making up hoax hate crimes is not a "call to arms", and no amount of "hate speech" from the right justifies such actions. if it is, then that's exactly why I fear the radical left because they've legitimized such violent/useless methods of protest and/or the likes of you weren't entirely joking about "whipping trump supporters".

speaking of right wingers... I haven't even said anything about right wingers and their hate speech but you've failed miserably if you tried to insinuate that I'm a hypocrite, because I'm not a right winger. I don't even know which "hate speech" you're specifically talking about - is it racist? homophobic? - you'll need to be more specific, though I'm not dismissing your concerns, and I do denounce all hate speeches whether they're coming from left or right.

maybe I'm being too serious (well can you blame me because I LIVE in the country where Trump just became the President), but we can surely have a serious discussion without putting each other down and resorting to green smiley faces, can't we?

Look, I'm a legal immigrant in the US who has paid thousands of dollars in social security tax that I'll never see. Get in line if you want to join a list of concerned people about Trump pal
 
Does he really have enough control over the IC to stop investigations into him?

Surely that makes him unaccountable?
 
Had a great debate with a Trump supporter earlier, first thing he came out with was he had a degree in Mechanical engineering so he was smart.

Heres some of the clangers, on the topic of him mocking the disabled reporter. The guy linked me to a video 'proving' Trump didn't mock the disabled reporter because he uses his hands when hes mocking other people.
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'Yeah thats been debunked multiple times, if anything he was treating him more fairly by mocking him' WTF
'The gestures he made were proven to be the same for everyone he mocks' It's okay for the most powerful man in the world to mock people?
'He should, not a perfect world we live in. His character is what got him to where he is, people take it too personally'

'Also hes not a "racist sexist bigot" maybe learn what the words mean listen to what he actually says and don't go off what MSM, tell you you should think'
'but the "he mocked a disabled person" shit is blown out of proportion. If anything he was treating him fairly' WTF X2 How is he treating him fairly?
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by treating him the same way he would anyone else'
'It proves he uses the same gestures to mock many people, not just that one reporter. If you can't see that you lack simple logic and perception abilities. Levelup'. ???????
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I never implied he didn't mock the reporter, can you read? I said he didn't mock him for having disabilities' LOL
'He mocked him like anyone else, it's called equality' Special kind of stupid.


I honestly think finding an educated Trump supporter might be just a tad harder then eradicating poverty.
Still shocked this happened, just everything he did. Just reading one statement from him puts me off, a fecking primary school kid could do better.
 
The next 4 years can do untold damage to the Civic Society in U.S.A if he stays the full term. It takes a lot longer to fix bad policies than it does to undo good ones. I really hope i´m wrong regarding the potential damage being done. But i really fear the most vile and regressive people are going to cause major damage.

Good luck to all Americans living there as your gonna be in a rough ride.
 
Been a while since I've seen Jimmy Carter appear in public.

Now he was not a great President but he echoed what was good and right about "The American Dream". His speeches and ideals still have resonance today so he wasn't as bad as some make him out. And his post-presidency work is of the highest order. He's certainly a great man - honourable and truthful.

Trump is the opposite. He echoes the worst traits. Narcissistic, bully and an unwavering attitude that it's never his fault.

They share one similarity - they both got the keys to the White House as political outsiders. Hopefully they'll have one more - both one-term Presidents. Other than that Trump doesn't belong in the same class as Jimmy Carter.

Good post. And I agree with David Frum's sentiment. My knowledge of pre-Wilson Presidents is not good, but beyond that I feel quite strongly that this is the worst man to become President since, on the qualities that I judge men. He has not an ounce of dignity about him.
 
Conservatives like Bill Kristol hated Trump right off the bat and that hasn't changed - after all, Trump isn't your typical republican/conservative.

Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol
Terms that don't appear in Trump's address: liberty, equality, freedom (though "freedoms" used once), duty, Constitution, self-government.
 
Who is the tall chap with the dark hair, sat at the end of the table next to Mike Pence and his wife.

One of the very few examples of an American conservative who wants to tear up help for poor people, who actually came from a very poor background himself. An interesting example of 'pull the ladder up after yourslf'.
 
One of the very few examples of an American conservative who wants to tear up help for poor people, who actually came from a very poor background himself. An interesting example of 'pull the ladder up after yourslf'.
yup, horrible bastard. He benefited from the welfare system, yet now wants to deny others.
 

:lol: You have me all wrong bro, I don't hate him, I just despise everything about him. I hate what he stands for and most of his actions, I also have the same amount of respect for him as I do a paedophile, but I don't hate him.

I would like to put his head in a vice though, like Joe Pesci did to that chap in Casino, and then watch his eye pop out of the socket, but when that happens I would piss in it before putting a funnel in his mouth and pouring boiling hot cooking oil down in to his stomach so he would then shit out all his eternal organs.

But, I digress, I don't hate the man. I really don't hate him, just having a laugh x

A movement like never seen before...think there's been a few movements before Donald

I had a fantastic movement as he was being sworn in, i'd saved it for a few days too. The codeine and morphine helps with that fantastically.
 
The entire family doesn't drink?! Definitely lizards, weird little lizards.

Well he doesn't drink, so you can bet the kids, who don't want to incur his wrath, don't drink either. That plus, EyeVanka is became an orthodox Jew when she married Kushner. They apparently go technology free (no computers, phones, TV etc) from Friday to Saturday.
 
It was a good speech in fairness

But he is making a lot of promises. Interesting times

It was dark. It said very little of what are generally professed to be the intrinsic qualities of the country. It just claimed the country and the people had been screwed, and were back with a vengeance.

To other countries for example, Obama said America would lead once more, through example. Trump just said America would always be first, and the hangers-on can go to hell.
 
And yet, if Ryan changed his politics and turned into a Bernie Sanders clone tomorrow, his face would cease to be either smug or stupid.

The wonders of physiognomy.

And f Bernie Sanders changed his politics and turned in to a Paul Ryan clone tomorrow, his face would become smug and stupid.

Disappointed Will, you used to be so much better than this. SAD!
 
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