The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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I keep wondering that too. Like he can't keep on saying stupid shit about everything, indefinitely. Or maybe he'll become white noise? America will keep trucking along and he'll gradually fade away into a minor background irritant?

It's just really difficult to see that happening. He's such thin-skinned, intellectually impaired man-child. No matter how many tantrums a toddler throws you can never quite get to the point of letting them wash over you. I suspect it will be the same with Trump. Complicated by a chronic fear of sudden death in a nuclear holocaust.

I remember discussing Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the open ended War on Terror and the implications for civil liberties, the invasion of Iraq and all the political upheaval that happened around that time a lot throughout that administration. I still have email threads of conversations I had while at work, before I had you lot to talk shit to (as we grew up and my friends started, you know, actually working rather than talking bollocks all day.) If I had been a member here at that time I would have been a pretty regular poster in the threads about US politics and the War on Terror. It was the period I became really politicised to the extent I am today and it's interesting to consider how I might be different if none of that had ever happened.

So I think the answer is it depends what he does. If he does a lot of controversial stuff he'll stay in the public consciousness big time, and it will probably politicise a lot of younger people who might not otherwise have thought about such things. Whether any of that will or could be channeled in any kind of useful way to bring about change is another matter, it might only exacerbate the existing feeling of impotence that is translating - along with other things - the lack of trust and the toxic political environment today. But if he is even more egregious in pursuing policies that favour the rich and hang the poor out to dry, as looks to be the case with nominations like DeVos, that could easily push people to taking action. You can only hope.

Of course if he turns out to be a lot better than people expected he will get some credit for that, there will be some sheepish people on the left, some who will continue to criticise him, some who praise him... and then itll all die down in all probability and people wont think about it as much. Such is the way of the world, bad news is a lot more interesting than good news, usually. Though if he does really good things, if he gets America growing at 5% or 6% or 8% again (not going to happen), if the rapid shrinking of the state actually yields results, and education gets better for having money sucked out of public schools, and he replaces ACA with something better that still covers the poor, and he defeats ISIS, then for sure he will be remembered extremely fondly, the more so for proving everyone wrong and overcoming adversity.
 
Though if he does really good things, if he gets America growing at 5% or 6% or 8% again (not going to happen), if the rapid shrinking of the state actually yields results, and education gets better for having money sucked out of public schools, and he replaces ACA with something better that still covers the poor, and he defeats ISIS, then for sure he will be remembered extremely fondly, the more so for proving everyone wrong and overcoming adversity.

Very few developed countries grow at 6-8%....and the US?

US hit 7% in 1984, since then the highest growth was 4.8% in 1999.

90% of kids are educated in the public school system - gutting it can't be an education policy. Charter schools, vouchers etc etc...are good options and should be expanded, but NOT at the expense of the public school system.

ISIS are already a shell of what they were - we'll get rid of them and a new name will pop up...remember AQ was going to be the defining enemy of the west :lol: No President be it Obama or Trump deserve any credit or will deserve credit for the inevitable destruction of ISIS.
 
There's nobody here. Parking lots empty :lol:

For 200,000 they were 12 people wide wrapping around a parking lot multiple times probably waiting way over an hour to get on trains running every 7 minutes.
 
Very few developed countries grow at 6-8%....and the US?

US hit 7% in 1984, since then the highest growth was 4.8% in 1999.

90% of kids are educated in the public school system - gutting it can't be an education policy. Charter schools, vouchers etc etc...are good options and should be expanded, but NOT at the expense of the public school system.

ISIS are already a shell of what they were - we'll get rid of them and a new name will pop up...remember AQ was going to be the defining enemy of the west :lol: No President be it Obama or Trump deserve any credit or will deserve credit for the inevitable destruction of ISIS.
Of course he wont do any of those things. I was talking hypothetically. He has talked about achieving EM levels of growth in the US, you and I know its a fantasy but apparently a lot of voters think he can do it. So we will see.
 
Fake crowd images being circulated on Twitter :lol:



The actual image is from a Cleveland cavaliers parade.
 
Watching this on both CNN and Fox. Bloody hell, American media is biased. And neither in a good way.

Anyone seen this Trump Troy ad, its so ridiculous its almost funny.

I was going to sneak home so i could watch this via those two but alas someone organised a meeting :(

I wonder how many assassination attempts they've caught today. If its going to happen to anyone its him.
 
I was going to sneak home so i could watch this via those two but alas someone organised a meeting :(

I wonder how many assassination attempts they've caught today. If its going to happen to anyone its him.
Left for home early.

You have 2 hours before it starts.

Is there a neutral media outlet in the U.S.?

The ads on fox are quite bad. Comical even.
 
Correct me if i'm wrong (still an idiot when it comes to American Politics), but wasn't Obama constantly restricted by having to appeal to a Republican Senate? Whereas Donald won't have that kind of problem no?

I think Obama was in a similar position to trump for his first two years... then mid term elections and the Democrats didn't hold the houses.

I could imagine something similar... with added twitter rants calling them traitors
 
I'm gonna miss Bo's '09 address:
What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility -- a recognition on the part of every American that we have duties to ourselves, our nation and the world; duties that we do not grudgingly accept, but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character than giving our all to a difficult task.

This is the price and the promise of citizenship. This is the source of our confidence -- the knowledge that God calls on us to shape an uncertain destiny. This is the meaning of our liberty and our creed, why men and women and children of every race and every faith can join in celebration across this magnificent mall; and why a man whose father less than 60 years ago might not have been served in a local restaurant can now stand before you to take a most sacred oath.
 
The ceremony around this is ridiculous, its not surprising US Presidents are put on such a pedestal by the public. It must drive UK Prime Ministers mad having to watch this, and then go home to be abused on TV by hostile interviewers. :lol:
 
That is a great example of what @langster was saying yesterday. Trump did the exact opposite "look at me look at me"

Yeah, it certainly is. The difference between the outgoing and incoming administrations is like night and day. The honour, respect and professionalism was something to be admired. He was also exceptionally humble most of the time and deeply considerate, sometimes too much, but he was and is a true gentleman and someone the USA can be proud of.

If you agree with his tenure or policies matters not, he was universally admired, respected and loved around the world. He constantly tried to extend olive branches (Iran, Cuba) and always tried to avoid military action. Each time he spoke about whatever problem, be it a school shooting or addressing the nation after winning the elections, he was always captivating, humble and honest. He will go down as one of the greatest Presidents in US history. I can only imagine how great he could have been if he had forced his policies through rather than playing partisan politics and trying to continually appease the right. However, his weakness in that area still shows how thoughtful and genuine his intentions were.

Now I dare anyone to say anything like that about the incoming Moron! The man is a disgusting vile, egotistical narcissist, sexist, pig and all he has done so far is embarrass his country worldwide, cause friction between countries and disrespect the office to which he will be asked to represent. And all that before he's even been inaugurated.
 
:lol:

A reporter on BBC news covering the inauguration live just said "grab a woman's pussy"

:lol: ah damn this is what im missing.

There's going to be at least one thing in his speech that just blows everyone's mind...in the shotgun to the head kind of way.
 
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