The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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unchanged_lineup said:
Key phrase (in the midst of his distractors) that I'm hearing there is:
"... He should pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials..."

If they haven't committed any crimes, why would they need pardoning, Matt?
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It's to protect themselves from the Obamafia headed by Soros and Mr T from making up lies about this administration once Bidet is in power. That way if they come out with bullshit like "Trump stole millions and here's the video of him handing over big bags of cash marked 'Government Cash' to his sons whilst they all laugh and say 'Wow, Donald J Trump, my father, I can't believe you got away with stealing lots of Government Cash"* our noble family will be allowed to walk free.

*Eric won't say this, obviously, as he can only handle one syllable words without drooling a lot or one of his seventeen fingers falling off
 
This is how far the GOP have sunk.
This man admitted to lying to the FBI, twice.
 
Precaution said:
How does this work?

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Pleading the fifth is to refuse to answer questions on the basis that you may incriminate yourself in doing so. The issue with Flynn is that he has sworn written testimony. If he has been pardoned, he can no longer incriminate himself and therefore can no longer rely on the fifth amendment to refuse to answer questions. In other words, he can not go against his sworn written testimony otherwise he purgers himself and that is a crime he hasn't been pardoned for...
 
mariachi-19 said:
Pleading the fifth is to refuse to answer questions on the basis that you may incriminate yourself in doing so. The issue with Flynn is that he has sworn written testimony. If he has been pardoned, he can no longer incriminate himself and therefore can no longer rely on the fifth amendment to refuse to answer questions. In other words, he can not go against his sworn written testimony otherwise he purgers himself and that is a crime he hasn't been pardoned for...
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This is kinda good news isn't it? Flynn and anyone else he has or will pardon may be dragged in front of court and have to make a choice, either go back to jail for lying under oath or refusing to answer, or spill everything they know?

I also think Biden should have a look at this pardon business, might be a good idea to disband the practice since it clearly is dangerous in the wrong hands.
 
Vooon said:
This is kinda good news isn't it? Flynn and anyone else he has or will pardon may be dragged in front of court and have to make a choice, either go back to jail for lying under oath or refusing to answer, or spill everything they know?

I also think Biden should have a look at this pardon business, might be a good idea to disband the practice since it clearly is dangerous in the wrong hands.
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A lot of them don’t have previously sworn written testimonies...
 
Cheimoon said:
Totally! Lovely to see him fall, especially while trying over racism. (And he's gone as leader of the party as well now.)
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The complete implodation (doubt that's a word) of Forum for Democratie is warming my heart. The rats leavung the sinking ship is hilarious to watch.

I admit that, even though I always loathed him, I didn't expect Baudet to be this much of an insane person. I thought he was in it merely for the attention and didn't actually believe the stuff he said.
 
Kentonio said:
To be honest, it's probably less inhumane than strapping someone to a gurney and flooding their body with poison. Some of those previously have caused excruciating pain and suffering.
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I personally don't agree with any form of the death penalty but from what I understand (admittedly this could be wrong and I am happy to be corrected) but lethal injection is three different chemicals and the first is a strong and powerful sedative so there is no actual pain felt.

He's also asked to bring back electrocution as well.

And on top of that he moved forward the execution of 6 federal prisoners at the same time he announced he had pardoned Flynn.

As usual with Trump the discussion of if he meant to seem so heartless and cruel and if it was intentional or not seems to overshadow the actual shit he's doing. And yet again he appears to be just saying and doing shit with little to no understanding of how and why these things have been stopped before or why it's not right to do them in the first place.
 
langster said:
I personally don't agree with any form of the death penalty but from what I understand (admittedly this could be wrong and I am happy to be corrected) but lethal injection is three different chemicals and the first is a strong and powerful sedative so there is no actual pain felt.

He's also asked to bring back electrocution as well.

And on top of that he moved forward the execution of 6 federal prisoners at the same time he announced he had pardoned Flynn.

As usual with Trump the discussion of if he meant to seem so heartless and cruel and if it was intentional or not seems to overshadow the actual shit he's doing. And yet again he appears to be just saying and doing shit with little to no understanding of how and why these things have been stopped before or why it's not right to do them in the first place.
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I think its generally safe to assume that anything he says or does is callous, stupid, repulsive and completely heartless. However in this case I think we've been basically conned by this idea that lethal injection is somehow a 'kinder' way to kill people. In theory yes there's a sedative, but in reality there have been horrific cases of the person being executed experiencing drowning sensations, or simply excruciating agony. The drugs used aren't always the same either.

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/07/death-penalty-lethal-injection-midazolam-ohio/

Basically the whole process is just fecked though. Years, often decades, of isolation and dread followed by a hugely ritualized process leading up to a finale. It's sick as feck. I remember people in the past talking about either the Russians or Chinese simply taking a prisoner between cells and just shooting them in the back of the head without any warning. It was talked about as if it was a horrific and inhumane form of execution. Personally I think its a hell of a lot more humane than the bullshit they put prisoners on death row in the US through.
 


e - he deleted the original tweet, it was basically an RIP for the guy holding this sign, who committed suicide. it was so terrible i thought it was a parody account but the rest of his stuff isn't better.
 
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KirkDuyt said:
The complete implodation (doubt that's a word) of Forum for Democratie is warming my heart. The rats leavung the sinking ship is hilarious to watch.

I admit that, even though I always loathed him, I didn't expect Baudet to be this much of an insane person. I thought he was in it merely for the attention and didn't actually believe the stuff he said.
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Guess my autocorrect was having fun; I meant 'tripping' not 'trying'.

Anyway, it's great that this will likely really spell the end of the FvD. Whatever Baudet leads (the FvD again or a new party) will be clearly known as racist now. He might not lose all of his fans, but an intellectual racist party won't be all that much more attractive than the Centrum-Democraten back in the day. And the rest of the FvD will be like the LPF - nothing attractive once the Great Leader's gone and they'll fight themselves to death.

I looked up Baudet the other week after I saw he was supposed to have a doctorate. He did his PhD in Leiden under Cliteur, all on nationalism. His thesis was slammed by some of its reviewers (which is extremely rare) for its non-scholarly nature, and he only narrowly passed his defence - which casts serious doubts on both Baudet's cleverness (he basically wrote a poorly substantiated pamphlet) and Cliteur (a PhD supervisor should never let this happen). Anyway, long story short, he does believe his bullshit and he's been crap at it from the beginning.
 
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-...o-work-for-Trump-once-he-is-a-private-citizen

:lol:
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I think Trump is sweet on Hope Hicks and would like to keep Tricky Hicky close at hand, perhaps in more ways than one.

As for Fact-Free Kayleigh McEnany, I think she’s more qualified to become a peroxide blonde Ford model than an office worker.

Stephen Miller will return to the depths of the hell that spawned him and will never be heard from again until the final Trump of Doom (i.e., if Trump wins the 2024 election).

But Trump would have a very hard time letting the lovely Hope Hicks escape his octopus-like tentacles …

And because Melania Antoinette is past Trump’s expiration date, I suspect he has been grooming Hope Hicks to be Melania’s replacement as his Stepford wife. It’s hard to tell them apart, except for the age difference, these days …

So I think Trump will keep Hope Hicks within easy grabbing and groping distance!
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MrMarcello said:
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-...o-work-for-Trump-once-he-is-a-private-citizen

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I think Trump is sweet on Hope Hicks and would like to keep Tricky Hicky close at hand, perhaps in more ways than one.

As for Fact-Free Kayleigh McEnany, I think she’s more qualified to become a peroxide blonde Ford model than an office worker.

Stephen Miller will return to the depths of the hell that spawned him and will never be heard from again until the final Trump of Doom (i.e., if Trump wins the 2024 election).

But Trump would have a very hard time letting the lovely Hope Hicks escape his octopus-like tentacles …

And because Melania Antoinette is past Trump’s expiration date, I suspect he has been grooming Hope Hicks to be Melania’s replacement as his Stepford wife. It’s hard to tell them apart, except for the age difference, these days …

So I think Trump will keep Hope Hicks within easy grabbing and groping distance!
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To be fair mcenany is a good employee in Trump's eye. Literally the grunt that will push forward for you. Stupid and ask no question.

I could find a use for people like that in my company. The one that doesnt ask question and do as she told for the company
 
He did something I actually agree with...I don't know how to feel...



as an aside, Harman was my Representative when I was in HS. Had to meet with her as I was applying to AF Academy and needed her to recommend me. Thoroughly unpleasant experience that may have been a contributing factor in my dislike for democrats as a youngster.
 
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