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At this point I would love to see trump in a fist fight. The satisfaction I would get from watching this "tough guy" take a slap. Him v's Kathy Griffin would be hilarious.
 
At a campaign rally in Michigan Saturday afternoon, President Donald Trump joked about being called a fascist by his critics and got the crowd of his supporters to chant “twelve more years.”


“Now you really drive them crazy if you say twelve more years, twelve more years,” said Trump, as the crowd cheered. “Then they say “he is a fascist! He is a fascist!'”


As they had been cued, the crowd began chanting “Twelve more years! Twelve more years!” just as loud as before as Trump grinned.


“What a group, only in Michigan, only in Michigan!” said Trump.
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Totally normal political rally folks.

"it can never happen here"
 
WPMUFC said:
TOTALLY NORMAL POLITICAL RALLY FOLKS!

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This is what the Republican Party has morphed into, supporting a sitting President who is now openly calling for all of his political opponents to be locked up.

What's shocking is the insidious way such views become 'normalised' inside this party of spineless sycophants.
 
Carolina Red said:
Nothing to see here. All is well.
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getting a crowd to chant for another 3 terms and to lock up all political rivals, just, you know, completely normal liberal-democratic campaigning.

Are we taking bets yet on how quickly after counting starts on election night TV coverage that Trump calls the election illegitimate and will refuse to recognise the results?
 
WPMUFC said:
TOTALLY NORMAL POLITICAL RALLY FOLKS!

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He’s gonna start a civil war if he loses.

Although I’m getting more and more convinced that he and his postmaster general will find a way to make enough of the mail in votes disappear to make sure he gets a second term.
 
WPMUFC said:
getting a crowd to chant for another 3 terms and to lock up all political rivals, just, you know, completely normal liberal-democratic campaigning.

Are we taking bets yet on how quickly after counting starts on election night TV coverage that Trump calls the election illegitimate and will refuse to recognise the results?
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calodo2003 said:
I work with several Filipinos of similar age to me, mostly male. All of them worship Trump as they see similarities to Duterte in him.
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They love their dictators/strongmen -- Marcos, Estrada to Duterte. They like the concept of 'democracy.' But the ensuing chaos that comes with democracy is seen as weak leadership -- which in turn will lead them back to 'strongmen' or men who play that role, actor or generals.
 
In Hong Kong Trump is described as a very failed president by the Chinese propaganda. Is he really that terrible? Is there any successful policy that helps the Americans?
 
hmchan said:
In Hong Kong Trump is described as a very failed president by the Chinese propaganda. Is he really that terrible? Is there any successful policy that helps the Americans?
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He's been a failure by most measures, regardless of political leaning. Very few of his big policy plans were ever enacted, and he did very little to make a difference to the wider population.

His biggest successes from the Republican perspective have just required him to exist: adding 3 Supreme Court justices and hundreds of lower court judges. That is a huge change but one he had almost no influence on, post-election. For his supporters, he didn't build the wall, he didn't destroy Obamacare, he didn't bring jobs back to the rust belt. He did bring in the tax cuts, although I think his supporters found out not long after that it didn't help them as much as they'd expected, it didn't radically change the tax code, and it definitely helped his wealthy donors and a lot of "the swamp". His biggest active success was in rolling back regulations, particularly in climate policy with the Paris agreement being the big one.

From a wider national perspective, one of the few things he had bipartisan support on was infrastructure, and somehow he couldn't find the time to do it. He chipped away at the institutional norms, which few people appreciated and most people hated. Likewise with his approach to race relations. He was pretty irrelevant in international affairs, only really succeeding in making the US seem less important and more incompetent, and pissing off most of the population and experts on both sides with brainless trade policy. The economy did well but few would attribute that success to him either.

At the end of the day, the majority of the population didn't want most of his policies, and he wasn't able to enact most of them. The ones he did enact help very few people, and his general presence has only hurt America's international standing and taken the gloss of the presidency domestically. Some people would have accepted that if he was able to stimulate dying parts of the US economy, like the coal mines, but it was never really a possibility. One of the defining features of his presidency is how few people he appealed to.

To a larger degree than most of his predecessors, his words were more important than his actions in large part because he was relatively inactive. He honestly spent so much time playing golf and watching TV that he spent far less time on normal presidential things, and because he's not an actual politician, he found it incredibly difficult to get other people to do things he wanted them to do. The only thing he was really good at getting other people to do was to fire staff for him, and that relentless change only made him even more impotent.
 
Brwned said:
He's been a failure by most measures, regardless of political leaning. Very few of his big policy plans were ever enacted, and he did very little to make a difference to the wider population.

His biggest successes from the Republican perspective have just required him to exist: adding 3 Supreme Court justices and hundreds of lower court judges. That is a huge change but one he had almost no influence on, post-election. For his supporters, he didn't build the wall, he didn't destroy Obamacare, he didn't bring jobs back to the rust belt. He did bring in the tax cuts, although I think his supporters found out not long after that it didn't help them as much as they'd expected, it didn't radically change the tax code, and it definitely helped his wealthy donors and a lot of "the swamp". His biggest active success was in rolling back regulations, particularly in climate policy with the Paris agreement being the big one.

From a wider national perspective, one of the few things he had bipartisan support on was infrastructure, and somehow he couldn't find the time to do it. He chipped away at the institutional norms, which few people appreciated and most people hated. Likewise with his approach to race relations. He was pretty irrelevant in international affairs, only really succeeding in making the US seem less important and more incompetent, and pissing off most of the population and experts on both sides with brainless trade policy. The economy did well but few would attribute that success to him either.

At the end of the day, the majority of the population didn't want most of his policies, and he wasn't able to enact most of them. The ones he did enact help very few people, and his general presence has only hurt America's international standing and taken the gloss of the presidency domestically. Some people would have accepted that if he was able to stimulate dying parts of the US economy, like the coal mines, but it was never really a possibility. One of the defining features of his presidency is how few people he appealed to.

To a larger degree than most of his predecessors, his words were more important than his actions in large part because he was relatively inactive. He honestly spent so much time playing golf and watching TV that he spent far less time on normal presidential things, and because he's not an actual politician, he found it incredibly difficult to get other people to do things he wanted them to do. The only thing he was really good at getting other people to do was to fire staff for him, and that relentless change only made him even more impotent.
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Great summary.
 
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