A supposedly civilised one.
The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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Yep. And once they realise the political status quo is better than the exact opposite, they'll be the better for it.
Has a president ever resigned without being forced to (i.e., apart from Nixon)?
They'd be within their right to filibuster after the Republicans' treatment of Obama since then.
Idk. The Democratic base tends to be less activist than the GOP.
Doubt just obstructionism will resonate with the Dem base the way it did with the GOP.
Examine voter turnout in non-stranglehold blue states like Florida, Ohio, Michigan, North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Where Obama did exceptionally well in 2012 for voter turnout, Clinton did horrible. Clinton got 7 million less voters than Obama did in 2012. This needs to be examined deeply and understood what happened.
Democrats are pussies. Republicans leading up to the this week were saying - there's nothing that says we HAVE to fill the Supreme Court seat. But, watch the Dems roll over and take it up the ass
Yup, and SCOTUS is the 1st big test.
No, but precedent won't apply to Trump in any case.
Nice guys finish last, huh?
I know in places like North Carolina new voting restrictions - reduced early voting hours etc, resulted in a close to 10% dip in the african american vote. But, I still think that's secondary to the enthusiasm gap and candidate
So much for polling industry going out of business. The problem was lack of quality state polls.
It's just how it is.
People were getting on Hillary for not conceding last night, yet they've all forgotten the stunt Trump and his ppl pulled in Nevada with the judge and the threat of mass litigation. Constant innuendo of voter fraud - rigged elections...
Of course, now that they've won - let's all gather round and sing kumbaya. Yet, I haven't forgotten their reaction to Obama.
What if turns out to not be as bad?
There is a chance that this doomsday predictions don't necessarily come true.
That would inspire even more non-confirming candidates.
yeah but what about 2016???
He's not clever enough to out-manoeuvre other world leaders.
Preibus as chief of staff apparently 
Trump rallied the undecided vote and what's being called the Silent Majority came out and voted for Trump. But for a party's candidate to lose 7 million votes in only four years is staggering.
Nate has not fully awaken yet.
Obstructionism alone won't, they need to completely rethink how they approach the upper midwest now (I think Reid again could be a good model to follow - a highly organised streetfighter with strong union links), but you also can't let the GOP get away with doing what they did for 8 years and not fight back in kind.
It's the 7m thing I'm not sure about. She definitely got less votes than Obama, but there are millions of votes outstanding, they can take weeks to get counted, and they're in Dem-heavy west coast states.
The speech wasnt that bad, he read what his speechwriters wrote, which primarily was a message of unity. He didnt mean a word of it imo, but it wasnt bad.
Thank you Comey.
She was a terrible candidate. And to think, there were people who thought she'd not only win but also take a second term!
He got fewer votes than Romney. Hillary failed to fire her base
Again, that's comparing two elections with every vote counted, with an election that has only 70% of California counted. Recheck it in a couple of weeks.
Need to examine the black voters who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012...where did that vote go. And how did people who voted for Sanders end up voting last night. And very evident those registered Republicans who voted for Obama didn't vote for Clinton and it was significant.
Nowhere. It stayed at home.
Everyone knew she was a deeply flaws candidate but that Republican line up was bad - in a weird way, Trump is why the republicans won - Ted Cruz wouldn't have defeated Hillary and Little Marco wouldn't have attracted those rust best working class whites.
Everyone kept thinking - people will come to their senses with regards to Trump - of course missing the connection he had created with voters across the country.
Sanders had an impressive and passionate following and the DNC being pro-Hillary couldn't have helped the Democratic base/her base. Dems are just as fragmented as GOP.
Literally. Apathy at it's finest.
That worries me more than anything.The alt right behind him. Bannon hates the Republicans as they stand.
Trust me...I would.
I agree with you there. They ARE pussies!
Never knew that. Yes that would take it out of you.
Those Latinos Hillary was going to ride to the white house...well she got their votes - close to 70%
But,
So, his immigration comments didn't really cost him with Latinos.
But,
So, his immigration comments didn't really cost him with Latinos.
To be a fly on the wall ,when Obama meets Trump for briefing.
Getting back to the title of the thread... I'm not an expert on US politics but from what I understand Trump is disliked as much by by the conservative establishment as he is by the liberal one. So, looking from a far he's either going to have to compromise with his republican party's backbone or he'll never get anything through the congress & senat. In other words, toe the line or be lamer than a duck with stage fright who can't swim or fly.
Another point, Trump lacks any kind of political experience which gives me the impression he won't have a clue what he's doing in office. I guess he'll need the support of experienced politicians in order to be effective.
Another point, Trump lacks any kind of political experience which gives me the impression he won't have a clue what he's doing in office. I guess he'll need the support of experienced politicians in order to be effective.
He is not dumb.
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