Yes, but you arent allowed to say that!
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Yes, but you arent allowed to say that!
I noted in a lot of the daily briefing sessions when he’s arguing with a reporter he’s using “are you ready, are you ready?” as a placeholder while he thinks of what to say next, usually some kind of attack on the reporter.
It's scary but at least our journalists have shown that'll stage a walkout from press briefings if one of their colleagues/rivals has their integrity questioned by the government. Our media might be more supportive of this government in general but they certainly don't take as much shit as the Americans seem to take. I like to think if Cummings tries to pull the same shit Trump does he'll get put in his place by the press here.
Interesting comparison isn't it.
I do struggle to believe that he is actually as stupid as he sometimes sounds.
Having said that, I have never heard a politician who loves the sound of his own voice quite as much.
That is the greatest summary of the worlds leading idiots brain and how it works
.And 'not many people know that I am doing such a great job'. Which is probably true.
Our standards have really dropped around the world it seems. We're capable of excusing a lot of crap that only ten years ago would've caused mass uproar.
I'm with most of the replies to that Peter Foster tweet ⬆. I think the media have been shit during this pandemic. Loaded questions (looking for a clickbait headline).
someone was listening in as an invited guest (not a member as suggested) and the government response was 'no he wasn't and the media part in the last few weeks hasnt been good'. Sounds about right to me
someone was listening in as an invited guest (not a member as suggested) and the government response was 'no he wasn't and the media part in the last few weeks hasnt been good'. Sounds about right to me
Very good point.
He wasn't just listening in, though, according to the report. He was taking part in discussions. The story is significant because the government's get out of jail card has been 'following the science'. It is not following the science if some bloke from vote leave with a history degree is influencing scientific advice.
didn't know he was influencing scientific advice? What decisions did he change?
Essentially that's what the Guardian is reporting.
This govt. has never been 'following the science'. It's following Dominic Cummings.
#sarcasm
If Democrats show up this time, he will be a one term President.
No I get what the Guardian are saying (and I'm sure they don't have any bias) but they seem to be saying Cummings was there so by default, he was probably/was definitely influencing Government policies?
Said it before (for ALL papers/journalists)... stick to reporting and not guessing. That's not journalism at the best of times, but especially now - if they've got facts, go for it, I'm all for that type of journalism As it holds politicians to task.
As for any comparison to US, Trump ignores everything, insults reporters to their face and if he doesn't like them, ignores them in future and (allegedly) has their WH accreditation removed. The journalists in the UK get to ask 3-4 uninterrupted questions and then main minister attending says "any follow up?". I'd guess US journalists would fall over themselves for that opportunity. I'd be interested to hear from any US posters who can watch UK press briefings (BBC World maybe) and see what they think comparatively.
Really ?
Yes Trump talking about drinking bleach is insane but we only have to go back to the last administration to see well.......something far worse. Obama visited Flint Michigan during it's water crisis(Which still isn't really over), were the water in Flint was giving people lead poisoning and he gave a speech in which at one point he asked for and drank a glass of 'the 'local'' water in an attempt to prove the water system in Flint was safe, even though it was clearly full of lead. Oh and the Obama administration was also letting the pentagon use Flint as target practise for military weapons . Yet no one has been arrested or charge for what happened to the people of Flint and millions of americans long for the Obama days to come back.
The only positive of the Trump presidency is our standards are somewhat on the up.
BrilliantLooking forward to replies to this (insert MJ popcorn gif)
One; I'm not using Trump saying "inject bleach" as the example of the worst thing he's ever done. Two; there was and still is mass uproar over Flint. If you want to point fingers at Flint though you'd do better to look at the EPA, which was Obama's biggest failing in that he didn't tell McCarthy to feck off.
Standards aren't on the up. Obama never told journalists to shut up. He never brushed off accusations by saying he never did it, or use the defense "fake news". He didn't put his grossly unqualified relatives into positions of authority and he didn't owe foreign governments millions of dollars.
it doesn’t sound as if you have read the Guardian story. It doesn’t sound like speculation to me. They are saying multiple people have told them he was taking part in discussions, not just observing. I would say that is influencing the thinking in sage and hence it’s advice to government.
Zero sympathy.
Nah, I've read it (difficult to prove I guess but I have). I've seen the multiple attendees quote and I'm sure they'd be pissed at him even attending (fwiw, I think Cummings comes across as a bit of a know-it-all tw@t and I'm not a fan of any individual having too much influence... multiple inputs help good decisions.)
How much influence that really has is the key... if really influencing, those attendees maybe have a duty to take further. I've got no issue in non-scientists attending (as I think others apart from Cummings have?) as long as Govt (Cabinet not PM) decisions are based on all information, focus on science/facts. As SAGE report to Cabinet/Cobra, I don't think their message would get diluted (whether it's right is another matter based on initial advice to follow herd immunity)
Hopefully more comes out and if Cummings is managing to influence key pandemic control decisions (based on wider politics and not lives), then Govt will get what it deserves and I'll gladly join in
The massive uproar resulted in what ? Again no one faced any actions for these crimes and Obama is now more popular than ever(In fact if there was a uproar in came in 2016 with low voter turnout). Also I would say attempting to trick the people of flint into drinking poised water and using their home as targets is slightly worse mistake than telling the McCarthy to do one.
I'm talking about the standards of journalists and the public, to hold politician accountable(We've gone from shite to less shite). Not of the politicians themselves.
Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning ? Also the Obama administration brag about it's attack on whistle blowers as well(In fairness they used a nice front size).
Obama campaign brags about its whistleblower persecutions
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...mpaign-brags-about-whistleblower-persecutions
Honestly people really should look back at the pre Trump years to 1)See how we got here and 2)Just how awful the past really was.
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I’m all for diverse opinions but how does Cummings even qualify to be invited to a group of the preeminent scientists in the country? By all accounts, he is the guy that points Boris where to go, so his presence at SAGE compromises the independence of their advice. Why is he there other than to somehow influence their thinking? Why can’t he wait till they give the advice and then advise Boris given the independent scientific advice? He is a SPAD, he shouldn’t be sitting on scientific advisory group.
He wasn’t tricking them. He was making the point that kids born before the late 70’s (like himself) were taking in high lead contents (88% of kids measures levels that today are considered high danger) and that it didn’t kill them or leave them disabled. Personally I think it was a shitty argument, but the intention was to try and stop people freaking out and thinking their kids were doomed.
Whilst I admit the guy's a fecking idiot for doing that, there are thousands if not millions of scared idiots around who see the President as their key authority figure (rightly or wrongly) with a mindset of, “The President knows the facts, he has advisors etc”.
That guy would not have died yesterday if Trump hadn’t said what he said, just like those who died taking Hydrxicholoroquine when they didn’t need to.
He died weeks ago when Trump recommended hydroxychloroquine. The man drank fish cleaner containing chloroquine phosphate. There's a letter from the FDA about it: https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterina...phate-intended-fish-treatment-covid-19-humans
Adi this is old news mate
Now we're going to have to dig out all of those old tweets, soundbites, interviews etc., as Trump will now be saying he doesn't really know Piers Morgan, has only met him a couple of times and he always thought he was a nasty person etc, etc, you catch my drift?
Can you believe this guy?
I wonder what someone who went to the trouble to choose @realDonaldTrump for their Twitter handle thought they needed to blowback against. How bad could any fake accounts have been?!
Trump doesn't care as long as the rich and powerful come out of this okay. I'm telling you now he'd quite happily let the virus kill as many of the poor, disabled and any ethnicity that's not white because he views them all as leeching off the rich.
Says the guy who just blatantly lied about them being very close to a vaccine and that within a couple of days the number of infected would be close to zero. Statements made without any scientific evidence whatsoever because it sounded good in his head.
I should be used to it by now, but I'm still dumbfounded by the fact that this is actually the most powerful person in the world. And that there's a real chance he gets re-elected.
He is being sarcastic again?
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