Of course he has a point about that but he is deflecting from his own failures - 1 or 2 cases, democratic hoax, open for Easter etc. He should be held to account.
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Of course he has a point about that but he is deflecting from his own failures - 1 or 2 cases, democratic hoax, open for Easter etc. He should be held to account.
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Got the leftie rattled haha, awwwhhh though you lefties did not like insults oh sorry you don't like them when your receiving them. With logic hell you lefties are so convinced that the Russians brainwashed the American people into voting for DT now hows that logic BITCH haha.
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Christ, I didn't know this thread was a hangout for 7th graders.
He has to be a wum. A bad one at that. He ticks too many boxes
I resent the fact that I have to share the same planet with cnuts like him.
Firstly, who said I was a leftie? I was just mocking you. I'm sure centerists, and capitalists can recognize your atrocious spelling and grammar.
Plus, I like insults, I can swear in 13 different languages. Yours, however, are just xeroxed from any right wing rant site.
I don't think the Russians brainwashed the American Trump supporters, you need brains for that. What I do think is Russia facilitated Americans brainwashing each other in their own little groups. The hate was already simmering there, it just needed a little direction.
And that bolded bit, just, yikes
This is like that Priest Chatback from Father Ted.
I feel like I’ve accidentally landed on a YouTube comments section.
So you never insulted me then, did you not call me in your words "'Typical uninformed, illiterate and racist Trump supporter"' sure sounds like an insult to me or did I miss something. So you that knows nothing about me not a thing and yet in a few posts of mine you have come up to that conclusion.
Has Trumps approval rating for his handling of this virus not gone up, not perfectly I agree but which country has handled it perfectly.
No, it's sharply going down now.
South Korea seems to be the country that has handled it the best. The USA is definitely one of, if not the worst and that is 100% on Trump and his lies and concern about the economy and himself over the lives of others.
The UK has handled it pretty poorly too.
He had a bump in approvals which coincided with him doing rallies during the primary which seems to have been prematurely attributed to his handling of the corona virus.
Since his rallies have stopped, he's been trending downwards.
You say most of my points are typical right wing propaganda but yet after 8 years of Obama the America people turned to Trump and it can not be because of the Russians. People in the manufacturing industries where forgotten about has Obama shifted the manufacturing outside of America.People that you mock and laugh at ask yourselves why did Americans after 8 years of Obama turn to Trump, Why.
Which other leader called it a hoax while they kept doing rallies with as big an audience as possible? Which other leader is endorsing treatments based on anecdotal evidence at best? Which other leader puts their relatives on task forces?
So South Korea is handling it well but yet most other countries have major issues, how could any country prepared for this. Was New York prepared.
The people are more focused than ever on these press conferences and his approval ratings are dipping the more he keeps talking .Even his favourite pollster Rasmussen as him going down.
Mourinho?
Has Hilary Clinton not said that the elections must still go ahead. Lets be honest Trumps trust in the Democrats must be at a all time low after what they have tried to do to him since day one in office. A silly thing to say but maybe understandable under the circumstances.
No, he had a bump when he first started doing daily conferences (which is very typical of 'wartime' situations, and his bump was much smaller than historic ones like W's post 9/11) and since things have settled back down to his usual 40-45% approval.
The whataboutism is strong with this one. I may not do my job perfectly, but I do a damn site better than most people, which is why I pass performance evaluations and have a job.
Trump has done the wrong thing at every single step bar 1 (China ban) which he only did because it fits into his xenophobic, racist agenda of blaming the China virus. Also almost half a million people traveled from China during his ban. Every other action he's done has been idiotic:
1. Called it a hoax
2. Said there'd be 0 cases soon in the US
3. Said you should go to work if your symptoms are mild
4. Said it's no worse than the flu
5. Wouldn't allow American citizens on a cruise to receive care, because that would inflate the numbers (some died btw)
6. Tried to insert $500bn of unrestricted government slush fund into a bill, which his team could manage
7. Did successfully get $175bn of relief for 'major hotel and resort groups' into the bill. Hrm.
8. Told people he won't be wearing masks because he doesn't like it
9. Pushes people to use a potentially-fatal drug that no one has proved works on Covid for...reasons.
10. Refuses to tell all states to do a lockdown
11. Is holding up federal reserves of PPE as a political football - quickly giving Fl whatever it wants, barely giving NY and Washington what they want
12. Said we'd be back to normal by Easter, next day changed his mind
13. Has been inconsistent and contradictory not just on a daily basis but even within the same f*cking press conference
14. While the military hasn't been mobilised in a significant way yet to help with restrictions and care, they have quietly been deployed to build the wall with the money he stole from the pentagon's budget
I could go on. The most important failure is that had he been a leader, the US could have been producing PPE, preparing hospitals, mobilising the military, identifying key industries that could help and so forth instead of pretending it was a hoax. His actions have directly killed 10's of thousands of his citizens. He should get his own name in history alongside the Vietnam War, OBL and Tim McVey.
You've got to give him credit. He doesn't give you a chance to lock on to a target.
It's like trying to catch a ferret that's off his nut on cocaine. Swinging from the chandelier one minute and then in your wine cellar the very next. Just when you think you've managed to get a hold of the situation and found a sentence that you can start to generate a response for - BAM!!! "Barner did worse", "deep state", "liberal elite".
It's great. It's like watching the last five minutes of every episode of Black Mirror on a tiny phone that's planted on a shaking washing machine running at full spin, rattling louder than the show's audio, and not knowing what the feck is going on because there's also an Alex Jones impersonator standing right beside you screaming in your ear.
It's like trying to catch a ferret that's off his nut on cocaine. Swinging from the chandelier one minute and then in your wine cellar the very next. Just when you think you've managed to get a hold of the situation and found a sentence that you can start to generate a response for - BAM!!! "Barner did worse", "deep state", "liberal elite".
It's great. It's like watching the last five minutes of every episode of Black Mirror on a tiny phone that's planted on a shaking washing machine running at full spin, rattling louder than the show's audio, and not knowing what the feck is going on because there's also an Alex Jones impersonator standing right beside you screaming in your ear.
Reminder, Trump received fewer votes than Mitt Romney, and almost 4m fewer than Hillary Clinton.
He won by absolute margins in 3 states, because the US presidential system is a joke.
I know nuance isn't your thing, but Americans did not 'turn to Trump', unless you're going to argue they also 'turned to Hillary and Mitt more than Trump'.
I think if you were genuinely interested in a discussion about the merits of different countries' responses, you would ask about how other countries had dealt with it (or look it up) without some blanket statement about how no country has dealt with perfectly.
This is of course a silly statement because it kind of implies that every country has responded to it in a uniform way, which is of course not true.
That's the American system like it or not that's the system and Trump won. On the run up to the 2016 elections there were quite a few candidates running and Trump won so with all those other candidates on offer why did the American people vote for Trump to lead them.
I have to be honest, I often find these 'gotcha' tweets pointless and uninteresting. I find they often misrepresent what has actually happened, which just seems silly to me considering we're dealing with someone who provides so much material anyway.
He actually did say they would be considering the funding initially, not that they were going to cut it off completely tomorrow. This is of course a ridiculous policy, just as his defunding of the CDC was but his message was quite clear to me.
I can see why some people switch off to the criticism of him because if I was a supporter of him and saw things like that, I'd start to think it was a bit like the boy who cried wolf. So when he actually said or did something ridiculous (as he often does), I'd be less likely to take it on board.
Who let the trolls out?
Because that's who they voted for. What that has to do with whether he's doing a good job in dealing with this I don't know.
Also Obama did not shift manufacturing outside of America. American companies and capitalism did that.
Someone pointed out to me that South Korea seem to have it fairly under control and of coarse China but no one else. The figures coming out of Africa are low is that because the African countries acted quickly or the lack of testing. Sweden has had a slightly different approach we shall see if it works so far does not look like it. The Spanish and Italians seem to have flatten the curve but today in Spain the cases went up. So its not a blanket statement but most countries have adopted a similar model and that is lockdown with varying degree of results. Its not Trumps fault
I was answering a question that was not related to the virus so why would I answer with a virus answer.
Someone pointed out to me that South Korea seem to have it fairly under control and of coarse China but no one else. The figures coming out of Africa are low is that because the African countries acted quickly or the lack of testing. Sweden has had a slightly different approach we shall see if it works so far does not look like it. The Spanish and Italians seem to have flatten the curve but today in Spain the cases went up. So its not a blanket statement but most countries have adopted a similar model and that is lockdown with varying degree of results. Its not Trumps fault
African figures are pointless because we will not test extensively there.
Most countries did not spend two months calling it a hoax and comparing it to the flu. Most countries don't have a system where the president is lording it over his state governors and saying they're essentially lying about their healthcare needs (nor have ended up in a strange situation where their states are bidding against each other and the government).
Most countries are also not currently touting a totally unproven drug as a definite cure.
The criticism is not about the current models adopted but what countries were doing before then.
Most of the Asian countries have tackled this better, as have Germany.
Because your initial post about people turning to Trump and Obama was replying to a tweet about Trump removing America's contribution to the WHO based on their response....to the virus?
That's just silly whatabiutism. This has nothing to do with Democrats. It wasnt a domestic issue initially. People all over the world saw what happened in China and later Italy.
It was the government's job to process that information and learn from it. Other countries chose to do so, Trump chose to deny the issue entirely to score political points.
Which countries acted quick enough was it France, Britain, Spain, Holland or Italy they all messed up yet somehow Trump is public enemy number 1. Some people are saying that he is directly responsible for the thousands of lives loss, is he to be blamed for New York's lack of preparedness. Hell some have even said that this should be compared to the Vietnams of this world. Well if thats the case Obama and Hillary must have blood on there hands to Syria, Libya etc oh Afghanistan
On the post in question I was replying to a post with regards to the US presidential system nothing to do with the virus you must of missed it.
I've literally mentioned it in my post. Germany and the Asian countries (Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea mostly)
Trump is not public enemy number one, stop being so dramatic. This is a thread about Trump so is getting criticised. He was also particularly vocal about calling it a hoax, which the other leaders have not been so stupid to do.
If you move yourself over to the British thread, you will see Johnson and the British government getting a good beating. I'm sure if we were on Barcacafe or Juvecafe, we'd similarly be getting involved in some criticism of Sanchez or Conte. If we were on Munichcafe, we'd probably be congratulating the government on a job well done so far.
Yes, he is partly to blame for NY's lack of preparedness, as is Cuomo. You know, he is kind of president of that country, which last time I checked, included New York.
Obama and Hilary very much do have blood on their hands.
Absolutely. The intelligence community gave the Trump Administration a clear report on just how serious this would be. Instead of declaring a state of emergency early and giving the states time to prepare, they decided to cover it up, send out a narrative that it was a Democrat hoax to damage the economy and spoil any chance that New York could have prepared better for it. When you see Cuomo's response to it from the moment the threat was known, it's very hard to argue that he would not have had the same response at an earlier date if he'd been provided the information and the functions available to him during an emergency.
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