The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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It’s also going to be up to the media to inform the public in a serious manner. Up to now they’ve failed and just seem to treat everything as one big drama and entertainment show. Ratings would improve if they pulled their socks up and got on with it.
Thing what MAY give this legs is that its less complicated. And the narritive isnt "is it a crime" like in the russia saga.
Have a look at the Donald subreddit and other right wing site comments, it is absolutely depressing to see what they believe. They are calling Trump a hero who should be given some military star for trying to expose corruption at the highest level. There is nothing Trump can do that the GOP won't defend. I don't think there is any hope for the USA unless demographics shift in the red States.
Ok grab ya popcorn now.
Wow, wasn’t expecting the Senate to agree to that. There must be a catch somewhere.
Yeh this seems more interesting . Cant beleive they agreed to that even though its non binding
At last.
Eh, by announcing they're moving forward with it, it gives the committees grounds to tell the courts and agencies they're demanding information from that it's a part of an impeachment inquiry, which carries more weight and expedites legal battles. Instead of Nadler sorta pussyfooting around it. It gives them standing to get grand jury materials, etc. that they couldn't get before.
The RNC is an entirely different proposition from the senate. They are hyper partisan cheerleaders who get the job because they are the loudest and clap the hardest. I won't take them any more seriously than that Huckabee clown on Twitter.
They should devise a select committee with particularly talented questioners, regardless of seniority, and those with expertise to go after this. Having it go through all of these huge committees is tedious and not especially helpful.
Could be, but he can just tell them to sod off.
You’re an effective counterbalance in this thread and I mean that sincerely. I don’t always agree with the articles you post and I think a lot of them are just right wing talking points designed to control the narrative but it’s healthy to see articles from the other side as we’re all well aware we’re in left wing echo chamber here.
I'm not sure this is what they should be aiming for. It puts in stark contrast how well documented and recorded these types of calls and interactions were pre-Trump. Trump destroys records of meetings, prevents anyone from outside listening in, doesn't keep any records of certain calls, etc.
The records for Biden or Obama's calls will be part of the Presidential records archive, but Trump has made a concerted effort to obfuscate any sort of documentation of his actions. If the RNC want Biden's transcripts, they should release all of Trump's with Putin, including the notes he took from the interpreter after his meeting with Putin.
The difference in records preservation is just one example of how aberrant this administration is.
It'll be over soon. Once the complaint and the call transcripts are out, this should be resolved. Or go to SC debating text vs context.
Holy shit, his fake tan when he was with Boris looks crazier than ever.
Doesn't even look as obvious there as it did on the news.
Doesn't even look as obvious there as it did on the news.
The only involvement SCOTUS has in impeachment is Roberts would preside over the trial in the Senate.
The issue now is getting the whistleblower complaint, much more than the transcript. The transcript will probably be fairly unclear, otherwise I can't imagine they'd let him release it.
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My God, look at how skillfully each tweet cons hapless Dems into thinking he's no more than a scared, paranoid fool backed into a corner as he awaits a public reckoning for his criminality.
Watch the dictator up the ante to the max now.
I hope the Dems came prepared to wrestle in the mud this time around because the RNC has probably been prepping for this for years.
I hope the Dems came prepared to wrestle in the mud this time around because the RNC has probably been prepping for this for years.
Whistleblower complaint is heresay whilst Transcript is unclear, which leads to confusion.
I'm assuming Trump discussed both Biden and Aid. Trump's team will claim both are unrelated, while Dems will claim they are contingent. There'd be no actual words in transcript linking them together. Which muddies the water.
It'll come down Justice Roberts and 2/3 of Congress anyway.
I'm also a bit concerned that this is a trick by the GOP to undermine the Democrat investigations (not that they were getting anywhere to begin with). Seems like they were waiting for the Dems to declare an impeachment inquiry and then unlock the door to this "complaint". This could ruin any chance the Dems have in 2020 if it turns out to be the case.
Something seems funny with whats been going on. Trump and GOP leadership are acting transparently on this.
This same WH has been hamstringing congressional committees frequently by refusing to hand over documents, invoking bogus executive privilege on witnesses and using time wasting tactics by taking things to the courts.
Why would they start to act all transparent and open now?
This same WH has been hamstringing congressional committees frequently by refusing to hand over documents, invoking bogus executive privilege on witnesses and using time wasting tactics by taking things to the courts.
Why would they start to act all transparent and open now?
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Presumably the WH and senior republicans have discussed the substance of the complaint, got experts to review it, and have confirmed that it's "only" the president acting with "questionable" ethics but that the damage will be fairly minimal. If it will come out eventually anyway, the perception of being obstructionist will go more widely than just the president so the cumulative damage could be best minimised by acting with a degree of transparency and an air of bipartisanship.
I forgot to put a question mark at the end.
I think the WH could also be trying to take the steam out of the impeachment inquiry with its garbled transcript before releasing the more damaging whistleblower complaint after they've caught major headlines of "No quid pro quo," which isn't the standard for impeachment but is the one that the WH and GOP are trying to move the goalposts towards. I would be surprised if they release the complaint the same day as the transcript.
For Senate Republicans, I don't think there's any feasible justification they could use for obstructing the request for the whistleblower report. I think even Devin Nunes signed off on Schiff's letter demanding it. Based on the new reporting by the Post, it seems like lots of the complaint will tie into the pattern of behavior of Trump, Giuliani, and other officials in circumventing normal channels to carry out a secondary Ukraine policy intent on manufacturing dirt on Biden. Trump has pissed off John Bolton and others recently, who may have axes to grind over their treatment.
If there isn't explicit quid pro quo, which there won't be, I can see the GOP saying essentially it's wrong but not impeachable at most. If they find out Giuliani threatened repercussions on behalf of Trump, they'll throw Rudy under the bus unless there's damning evidence of Trump directing him to use the leverage of the money.
Regardless of whether there's quid pro quo, this is worse than anything Nixon did. Nixon at least used campaign resources to try to dig up dirt on his opponents. Trump used the office of the president and all of its powers to try to gain an advantage on a political adversary.
Trump doesnt need to be impeached. He just need to stand trial and grilled.
Did you order the code red? You're goddamn right i did.
Did you order the code red? You're goddamn right i did.
Hre has the front to call Joe Biden 'sleepy'!
Surprised you are not defending this dictator.
Agreed, up until the last part. Nixon did a lot of shit that was at least facilitated by the presidential powers. I'm not sure the superlatives are necessary. Being almost as bad as Nixon is bad in everyone's eyes, you don't need to top it, and it certainly isn't helpful to reach to make the claim.
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