There's an emerging sentiment that impeachment could happen when Republicans approach the Dems and ask them to begin the process, which of course would be a wink and a nod from the GOP that they have sufficient votes to convict in the Senate (which would only require 20 out of 53 defectors).
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There's an emerging sentiment that impeachment could happen when Republicans approach the Dems and ask them to begin the process, which of course would be a wink and a nod from the GOP that they have sufficient votes to convict in the Senate (which would only require 20 out of 53 defectors).
He is actively destroying the economy.
People's 401k going down the tubes.
People's 401k going down the tubes.
you only need 60 votes right?
2/3rd = 67
Don't know.
Impeachment may be a Republican trap.
Impeachment may be a Republican trap.
It wouldn't be a trap if it gets rid of Trump. The GOP would be destroyed in terms of credibility at the national level after backing Trump's corruption in exchange for deregulation and a few SCOTUS judges. They wouldn't be able to field any candidates who appeal to the MAGA/Limbaugh/Hannity/Coulter crowd.
I meant if the House votes for impeachment, the Senate could push back.
Do we expect Republicans to honour their word?
The Republicans only have the racist voters.
They cant play any other card.
Do we expect Republicans running 2020 to stab their 'leader' and still vote for them?
They cant play any other card.
Do we expect Republicans running 2020 to stab their 'leader' and still vote for them?
If things get bad enough to where its clear as day that Trump is guilty of multiple felonies the GOP would have to act or else risk getting completely obliterated at all levels in 20. There would be no wiggle room for McConnell or anyone to play games by feigning he wants impeachment as a device to trick the Dems since that still wouldn't resolve the crisis that Trump would still be in office despite being obviously guilty of multiple crimes.
I guess we can start posting Mitch, welcome to the resistance?
Think by February, Mueller's report will be so compelling that Trump may offer to resign before being impeached. That way he still can bargain. Otherwise he will be in prison as a private citizen.
There will likely also be a challenge to the idea that a President can't be indicted while in office, especially if the statute of limitations of his alleged crime would expire if he gets reelected.
I think the various intel agencies will be briefing the Senators. They have loads of information about how dangerous he is to the country.
That may make the Senators persude Trump to cut a deal to resign.
It won’t happen that soon. He will still feel he has bargaining chips to play in the Senate after being impeached, and will stubbornly ride it out.
Possibly, right at the end, he’d go out for a Pence pardon.
Poor ol Donald!
Shows how much he craves attention and why he's not part of the "inner circle" in either NY or Hollywood.
Shows how much he craves attention and why he's not part of the "inner circle" in either NY or Hollywood.
Republican senetors, short of Trump being exposed for obvious treason, would never impeach trump. By obvious I mean something even MAGA crowd would have to acknowledge and not just campaign finance or Russia related hacking issues.
Simply because Trump's base, however small it may be, is required by Republicans to vote for them. Untill his base is with him they will never risk something drastic like this. Politicians almost all over the globe care more about their own immediate status rather than any long term impact on nation or even the party.
Simply because Trump's base, however small it may be, is required by Republicans to vote for them. Untill his base is with him they will never risk something drastic like this. Politicians almost all over the globe care more about their own immediate status rather than any long term impact on nation or even the party.
You know what's incredible, I actually believe him when he says he doesn't know who he is. If you read Bob Woodward's book, you realise it's entirely possible. The man is a moron who not interested in governance.
How long before he Tweets Mattis was little more than a tea boy who he only met once and he's a cowardly traitor?
Ffs. Why do people still defend him?
Crybaby.
He actually has a point.
Also the fact that this withdrawal is being bitterly opposed by the entire foreign policy establishment, right and left, Democrat and Republican, and all the major influential think tanks who have all been so wrong about so much when it comes to war and the Middle East over the years, should give us pause to consider that maybe Trump has stumbled onto a worthy move here.
Nah I hate that argument. It’s the same logic as the ‘we’re tired of experts’ shit Gove trotted out. As soon as you just stop listening to the people who genuinely understand issues, you end up with any old crazy shit being an acceptable alternative.
People were wrong about intervention and regime change tactics, not intervening, selling allies on promise of support and then pulling out when they are vulnerable. This is typical trump, come in loud and proud, blow shit up, declare premature victory and leaving the mess for someone else more responsible to clean up.
I don’t think the FP establishment in DC, who bear huge responsibility for the current state of the Middle East, have earned the right to be considered ‘experts’ or shown any genuine understanding of the region they like to focus their energy on. They’re completely locked in a mindset that prizes military ‘solutions’ and escalation, and are blinded to alternative possibilities. I don’t agree with every detail in this, but Andrew Sullivan pretty much nails it here:
The Establishment Will Never Say No to a War
https://www.google.ie/amp/nymag.com...establishment-will-never-say-no-to-a-war.html
Just touching back on this:
The rate hike could cost the POTUS $5M a year due to variable-rate loans he’s holding. I’m sure that’s not why he’s so upset, of course...
Whatever the likes of Brett McGurk have been saying on the ground, Trump never promised the SDF anything. If they actually listened to everything he’s said about Syria and ISIS since his time as a candidate, and heeded the warnings of people in the region like Nasrallah, then they should have been prepared for something like this. They still have options.
Hasn’t the administration been selling both allies and the American public in general on the idea that they should evaluate the policy and actions of their administration rather than the presidents incoherent ramble? If McGurk or anyone else doesn’t have a right to follow through on their words what’s the point of their existence?
Found @Eboue s twitter handle...
I was wondering what has happened to one of his other famous slogans: repeal Obamacare. Guess it's another case of him talking out of his arse.
Likely because anybody but our favorite President wouldn't have Trump towers in Istanbul where he would need to appease the Turkish dictator's Syria policy as a quid pro quo to allow the Trump towers to stay open.
I think they’re wrong most of the time, but to counter that you need people who know the subject intimately weighing up all the potential outcomes of an alternative approach and building a strong case including both pros and cons. Just pulling out without consideration of the consequences is just stupid. Classic Trump.
Trump is seriously getting on my nerves.
Impeachment is political suicide for the Democrats.
The Republicans will love it if they did it.
Mueller and his final reports are the only option.
Trump is facing 17 investigations.
Mueller is getting help from various agencies and from overseas governments.
I'm certain people in government present and past are working with European governments and the various agencies to ensure the safety of not just this country but Europe too.
Information that Trump gets must surely be on a need to know basis.
The guy is completely unhinged and all these people can see it.
The last thing we should expect is Republican Senators who have already made the deal with the devil to stand up for the American people.
Every one of them depends on racists who blindly follow this SfB in the WH to remain in power.
They will do Nothing.
The Republicans will love it if they did it.
Mueller and his final reports are the only option.
Trump is facing 17 investigations.
Mueller is getting help from various agencies and from overseas governments.
I'm certain people in government present and past are working with European governments and the various agencies to ensure the safety of not just this country but Europe too.
Information that Trump gets must surely be on a need to know basis.
The guy is completely unhinged and all these people can see it.
The last thing we should expect is Republican Senators who have already made the deal with the devil to stand up for the American people.
Every one of them depends on racists who blindly follow this SfB in the WH to remain in power.
They will do Nothing.
The Dems don't have the balls to do it. Lack of leadership and a big conflict going on between the old and the new guard. The old guard cleary prefers to keep him in power because if he fell they wouldn't know what to do.
How is impeachment a political suicide for Dems when the whole democratic base wants exactly that ? It's suicidal if they don't try to impeach him.
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