A punch in the throat would have been more fitting - May really has no backbone.
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A punch in the throat would have been more fitting - May really has no backbone.
The UN should designate British swearing as a UNESCO world heritage.Oldie but goodie...
I second this motion.
I think protests are vital as a form of political engagement etc, but I do think there's a point to be had that in this case they're a bit worthless unless the people going are looking to involve themselves in politics and enact change to a greater degree. Which is undoubtedly the case for plenty of activists etc who will be there...but there'll also be a lot who're along for the ride but would never particularly consider any of the wider consequences/reasons as to why Trump's in power, and what needs to change in the long-term.
The blimp was funny, for example, but considering it cost a decent bit of money, also can't help but feel it's money that would've been better invested elsewhere. And that these protests are essentially what Trump would want, because they won't lead to any real change but will act as form of validation for him, and as a recognition of his self-importance.
The blimp was funny, for example, but considering it cost a decent bit of money, also can't help but feel it's money that would've been better invested elsewhere. And that these protests are essentially what Trump would want, because they won't lead to any real change but will act as form of validation for him, and as a recognition of his self-importance.
Weapons grade plum. I like it.
I think that's my biggest issue (maybe issue is the wrong word, because obviously it's good to see people voice their opinions like this) with the protests. All they'll do is fuel Trump's America vs. the world policy. "Look at the way they treat me and us after all we've done for them" or some shite like that, and no doubt his supporters will love it.
Wasn't he talking about no go zones during his campaign? He should have been invited in one of them.
Aye, and for as much as I don't often agree with Oscie and am generally suspicious of someone who immediately disparages protests/protesters, I do think he makes a fair point that the ones against Trump seem to just be a general protest against him as opposed to one with any real, tangible, long-term goal. Is it just because we think he's a cnut? Or are we trying to encourage May to sever/reduce relations with him? Or are we just trying to piss him off? All goals are admirable...but I don't think today, in the long-term, will really mean anything. Not that I'm advocating more extreme measures or anything, but when you're just casually protesting civilly, you're going to struggle to change anything unless the political will for it exists. And it's clear here that, within the current government, there's no real political will to scale back UK-US relations.
Might just be that the 24/7 narrative over the past couple of days has sort of pissed me off though. Trump loves it, and Sky News reporting on things like whereabouts his helicopter is, or Melania going bowling with May's husband, fuels that. The protests, instead of achieving anything tangible, just end up being another intriguing angle to throw into the mix, to add to the us-them narrative.
The blimp was one of the most seen images of the day in the entire world. Some of the best spent 5k (or 30k, don't know) ever.
I don't think these things are worthless at all. They make the news, they make people think, they show people care. It's a necessity, it's counter-propaganda. The fact that they aren't objecting to a specific issue they are liable to change doesn't make the protest useless. It was massive, and I hope it inspires similar ones in other countries. I think this kind of stuff has the potential to impact the way historians will look at this a few decades for now, for example.
But more than that, these things add up. You add this to John Oliver, to other protests in the USA, to Oprah Winfrey speeches, etc, and all this adds to something tangible, the idea that the other side is still alive.
Imagine none of this happened... The hopeless protests in the USA when he got elected, the countless cheap digs thrown at Trump every opportunity by celebrities or random people (what's the point of these?) etc... It would be a free ride for him, and a capitulation of all us that oppose him, a sort of "let's watch and wait..." For 8 years!!!
The (bad) way Trump is perceived in the majority of the world has a lot to do with these efforts.
Again, I'm not necessarily completely dismissing all of this. The blimp was quite genuinely funny and creative. But it'll - at beat - annoy him, and remains money that could've ever gone to, say, a charity for homeless people, or for those suffering from mental health issues. At best the blimp will piss off and annoy Trump, but it's not going to fundamentally change the political predicament he finds himself in, or deter his supporters. He's been ridiculed since he stepped into office, for a whole variety of topics ranging from his small hands to his general stupidity.
But I'd argue that addressing the systemic political issues which leads to the election of someone like Trump will mean a lot more in the long-term than a protest which will linger in the mind for a weekend or so at most before everyone goes back to normal.
And, again, that's not to belittle those who were there today. Plenty of them will be doing a lot of good work at the moment to rectify society's ills, and for that they should be commended. But I do get the impression that for a lot of people today would've been a convenient feel-good event for them to feel like they're rebelling against right-wing politics while achieving nothing substantial. Trump's been getting the piss taken out of him since he first announced he'd run, and he's been defied on a number of occasions since then. Nevertheless, he remains in power, and his support base - while limited - remains somewhat persistent. A Dem wave in November will suggest some full-scale, tangible change, and it's possible we'll see that, but if we don't it's difficult to get particularly enthused about this sort of thing.
That's what I thought. He really owned that interview.
Question. Is it normal for five flags and three being the other countries flags?
From what I've seen, well done UK people.
Fock off you May cu....
Fock off you May cu....
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Trump has made May look a complete fool.
I get it she desperately wants/needs a trade deal, but he's just gonna turn around and say no to that anyway, so what's the point of sucking up to him? I mean she can't honestly believe him when he says we'll get a good deal can she? Only way we get one is if we get shafted.
I get it she desperately wants/needs a trade deal, but he's just gonna turn around and say no to that anyway, so what's the point of sucking up to him? I mean she can't honestly believe him when he says we'll get a good deal can she? Only way we get one is if we get shafted.
This. Unfortunately I indonI think the Dems have realized this yet. The Anything but Trump effort is doomed to be a failure unless they can back it up with a viable alternative candidate .
Likes of? Really?
There are 2 sides to every argument. If you are so intensely delusional that your opinion is the right one and everyone else is crazy, then keep burying your head under the sand. It was this attitude that got Trump elected.
People keep saying this, yet it’s so not true.
If Boris is 'coming home', then I'm fecking leaving it.
Why not? There's no way he can get elected was the feeling till the time he actually did. I know many who were convinced totally.
I despise him, but imo him getting another term is is still at evenly balanced.
Isn't it amazing that the vast vast majority of his voters also voted for Romney.
It depends on how damning the Mueller report is and what info Cohen gives up. If he can survive these probes, then sadly he likely will get a 2nd term.
Likely is still a bit strong as his victory last time round was narrow and I can't see him winning many additional votes. It would still rely on the Democrats acting extremely complacent as they did last time which is very possible.
Not sure which I hate more
So what you’re saying is that because May can’t suddenly dis-invite Trump, people shouldn’t let him now how they feel about him? And if Trump was only a racist but not also a sexist, child molesting, colluding, climate destroying, lying sack of shit, a protest would be alright as everyone would have precisely the same issue to be mad about? I get the broader point about for protests to make a difference, they need a specific target, but seeing as this is the American President over whom English people have zero power, it’s perfectly fine to have a protest to show him and the rest of the World how England sees him. If he ever comes to Denmark, I’ll certainly be there, even if it has no impact on anything other than a symbolic one.
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The liberal snarky elitist or whatever attitude is not what won Trump the election. The battleground states were what got him the presidency because they consisted of large woking class populations who bought into his business “skills” to get more jobs.
The lame part is that post.
They just couldn't connect with Hillary.
Roger Stone on Cuomo's show in a few. Should be entertaining.
Not really. Stone is always polished and able to dodge questions.
Oldie but goodie...
I never realized how good Scottish people were at insults. This is class.
Little did anyone know at the time that the buffoon would become President.
Protests have only taken off in recent years because the festivals have been a bit shit.
Is there a more pompous and sycophantic cretin than Piers Morgan?
The answer is no, definitely not.
This is something I'd imagine Larry David doing in Curb Your Enthusiam, not by a real life sitting US President*.
*Who is still a massive shithead that lost the popular vote by 2.8M and is fecking destroying the nation. Some see him being clueless I just see him as an arrogant, racist, misogynist, narcissistic fecktard and this act demonstrates such.
"Scweam". Why does the UK tolerate this absolute weapon? He's a Trump puppet.
Which flags? I must have missed it.
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