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Yes and no. As I said in my earlier post he did make some valid points and he was actually (As to be expected) more against immigration and was saying that the influx of foreigners is the reason the NHS is failing. Which is partly true, extra population hasn't helped but not fair to blame it all on immigration when severe cuts, waste, mismanagement and Tory policy are more to blame.

As I said, and as @Raoul just said, It's been twisted and used now as the start of the propaganda and smear war against single payer and the Dems in the USA. Expect to see lots more right wing Brits on US telly talking shite about the NHS just to further the agenda against universal healthcare.
While the UK polititians will stay silent while they bash their own NHS. Not very patriotic that one.
 
Surprised Hunt tweeted actually considering May's always been too tentative in her approach to Trump.
 


He's gone off on the NHS today because of an interview Farage gave to Fox & Friends. The fight against UHC has begun and the propaganda war is well and truly under way now.

Feck I've only been reading the replies for 2 minutes and I'm fuming and also on the verge of tears. The lies and paranoia is disgusting. People are just flat out talking bs about something they have no clue about. It's infuriating and saddening.



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He just wants all out war. How can he expect to make the USA great again when he spends his life dividing it like no President ever before him? He's a disgrace. People are going to die from his rhetoric and hate speech.
 
Has he blamed Hillary or Obama for the stock market collapse yet?
 


He's gone off on the NHS today because of an interview Farage gave to Fox & Friends. The fight against UHC has begun and the propaganda war is well and truly under way now.

Feck I've only been reading the replies for 2 minutes and I'm fuming and also on the verge of tears. The lies and paranoia is disgusting. People are just flat out talking bs about something they have no clue about. It's infuriating and saddening.


Goebbels is somewhere applauding with a sly smile.
 
The numbers are going to swing wildly over time. At points they will be as low as the low 30s; at other times as high as the mid 40s. The economy is doing well, especially the market and unemployment so its natural that Trump will see some degree of a bump from that.

Sooo.... how do you think today will effect his ratings? What about a further drop tomorrow?

Any chance this will hurt the tax cuts narrative?
 
Started a political compass thread just for you.

Been done to death on here and I can't see my views have changed since I did it last time a few months ago. But have fun anyway.

Back on topic....



Schiff has been beating Trump like a drum all day. He's a witty man I give him that. I bet Trump is seething in private. This could go on for a long time. :lol:
 
Sooo.... how do you think today will effect his ratings? What about a further drop tomorrow?

Any chance this will hurt the tax cuts narrative?

I think less tweeting has been good for him, but as we saw this morning, he's back to his usual old self on Twitter. The market would have to tank a lot more than 2-3 days for it to reflect on him.
 
I think less tweeting has been good for him, but as we saw this morning, he's back to his usual old self on Twitter. The market would have to tank a lot more than 2-3 days for it to reflect on him.

But he's quick to take the credit for it when it rises though.... So what is good for the goose and all that. Shame his supporters can't see this.
 
Comments from Dirty Money documentary-maker Alex Gibney:

The final film in the series focuses on Trump, who has been covered endlessly over the past couple of years. What more was there to add?
The essence of Trump’s appeal was that he’s a great businessman, so therefore he’ll be a great president. We thought, OK then, let’s take a focused look at what he was like as a businessman.

Not so great, it turns out…
He was an absolutely terrible businessman. Every business he touched withered and died and he would always leave someone else holding the bag. You look at the trail of slime he left behind and just shake your head and wonder.

Why do you think people are still buying into him?
It’s something I dealt with in my film about Scientology: some people just have the need to believe in Trump. They come to feel that he represents part of their character. No matter how much evidence you present to them about what a bad guy this is, they don’t want to hear it, because somehow an attack on Trump is an attack on them.

Can you imagine him staying the course?
Yes I can. A similar thing happened in Russia when Putin rose to power: everybody mocked him as some small apparatchik who wasn’t going to stand the test of time. But power has a way of solidifying.
 
Why do you think people are still buying into him?
It’s something I dealt with in my film about Scientology: some people just have the need to believe in Trump. They come to feel that he represents part of their character. No matter how much evidence you present to them about what a bad guy this is, they don’t want to hear it, because somehow an attack on Trump is an attack on them.

Can you imagine him staying the course?
Yes I can. A similar thing happened in Russia when Putin rose to power: everybody mocked him as some small apparatchik who wasn’t going to stand the test of time. But power has a way of solidifying.

Depressing !
 
He just wants all out war. How can he expect to make the USA great again when he spends his life dividing it like no President ever before him? He's a disgrace. People are going to die from his rhetoric and hate speech.

Already happened in Charlottesville.
 
How can he say that? I don't live in the UK, but I don't know any European Country where are marches to abolish their NHS, even the minorities who don't like it don't dare to say abolish it. How can they get away with this, and the UK polititians don't say nothing about their NHS?
He was watching TV. He misunderstood the item on Fox to show UK people protesting against the NHS. They were actually marching in support of it. He is a cretin.
 
"Somebody said Treasonous" - who was that Donald? Was that you Donald?
 


Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa oh my fecking god. Yes! The best headline of all time. Trumps own lawyers don't want him to give evidence because they know he is prone to making false statements. In other words they are scared he will drop himself in it because he is as guilty as hell and a lying piece of shit.

Amazing! :lol:
 
Hopefully, taxes won't be alone in going down.
 
:lol: I meant that Trumpy might be going to jail, chief. I'd give up all my hot dates with Penelope Cruz* just to see that.



*Actually, Mrs Ethel Rabies of Stoke.
 
God I hope he will testify for Mueller and feck up royally. Would be the best thing ever. Not sad!
 
New York Times said:
“Can we call that treason?” Mr. Trump said of the stone-faced reaction of Democrats to his speech. “Why not? I mean, they certainly didn’t seem to love our country very much.”
Bloody hell...
 
He can't talk about the stocks, so he's gone back to immigration today.
 
How can he say that? I don't live in the UK, but I don't know any European Country where are marches to abolish their NHS, even the minorities who don't like it don't dare to say abolish it. How can they get away with this, and the UK polititians don't say nothing about their NHS?
The march was to demand better funding for the NHS. The underlying problem is not the NHS though it was cuts in social funding for Nursing Homes. There are elderly people in hospital that can not leave because they have got no where else to go and this is clogging up hospital beds.
 

I find it REALLY hard to believe 100% of those 65% have anywhere close to a full understanding of how immigration currently works or why that wall is a stupid idea. Do note that I do believe the current system is a freaking mess but simply banning certain countries, canceling the green card lottery, greatly reducing H1Bs and building a wall for a shit ton of money Donnie said we d never have to spend is just short sighted. I really hope the dems don't cave on the wall in particular. The last thing we need is a permanent monument to the orange man.
 
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